Jump to content
  • 62

The new Evernote 10 Version List of Missing Core Features


gazumped

Idea

  • Replies 410
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Top Posters For This Question

Popular Posts

It's unbelievable how such a good product can turn into such a bad thing that it induces a customer from years of using the product and the platform to start a process of mass migration of their data

I`ve just installed the new v. 10 and I just couldn't believe my eyes: oh, no, they kept most of the horrible beta version they realeased a few weeks ago! I would't call it an upgrade. I see it a

I gave up trying v.10 and am back to previous v. 6.25.1.9091 (last stable version). I use Evernote for work, not for leisure. The poor design and missing features affect my workflow. I just

Posted Images

Recommended Posts

  • 0
19 hours ago, Mike P said:

That's odd. I can't replicate that. When I started with list view I ended up with list view. There are some issues about whether EN is remembering the preferred view so I don't know whether that is the problem.

image.png.d565ebc7d44a5ba07ec0e3bc6e26f7f1.png

I found out that I experiencing this because I set my All notes view in 'snippet' and when I search 'in the notebook(with filter)' the view using the all note view not the per notebook view.

I myself want to respect and I respect the hard work the devs do in attempt to improve the app. It really good to always try to improve the app better. But the decision to suddenly update the app with the incomplete workspace without the user can choose to is a bad decision I think. Imagine someone have a tight schedule and something need to be done soon then suddenly they forced to learn the new workspace and solve the new problem to pursue the target. I think people using this app is in hope to be helped in their live and work so they can work efficiently not the other way around. I myself get stuck when I first open the evernote showing up with the new version and have been slowed down in my work and still figuring out how to work with the new 'incomplete' version and get my pace right again. 

I think most people will need to stick with the older version till the work for the new version is really done .     

I just find out another thing I notice. I dont't know it is just me or the font in the new version is not as clear and crisp as before. I have tried to make the font bigger but I can see the font in my firefox when I type this and almost another app is more clear and crisp even the font is smaller 

Thank you for the help and the dev for attention 

Link to post
  • 0
3 hours ago, GrumpyMonkey said:

I was responding specifically to calling out one of the Evernote staff for a "soulless" response, getting into the weeds about how to use other alternative apps (not so much in this thread, but in others), and the attempts to bring legal action or instigate a mass migration away from Evernote. I don't think the *Evernote* forums are a place for doing these things.

 

Agreed

Link to post
  • 0
9 hours ago, Jose J said:

.Do you really think you can replace Evernote with OneNote?  It has nothing to do with it.

It depends which version you have in mind

V 6.25 is very hard to replace one-to-one. However, it can be replaced to some extend with a set of a few tools/apps. Diversification of a tool-set gives also more independence from one vendor.

If you mean v10.x - it's veeery easy to replace 😉

Link to post
  • 0
5 hours ago, MarkW725 said:

Why didn't Evernote finish building this new version before releasing it?

I have managed to go back to an older version to get the full functionality back. I will also look at alternatives.

 

You can listen to the recent interview with EvN's CEO. He officially confessed, that they don't plan anything. This mean they produce software in a pretty chaotic and amateur way... which results in obvious side-effects we experience today with v10. This is unfortunate.

It looks like they ignore achievements of generations of software developers i.e. methods like for example Agile, Scrum, LSD or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_development_life_cycle

Painter gets stuck in the middle of a room

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
5 hours ago, GrumpyMonkey said:

Talking about leaving is fine. I think talking about alternatives is fine as well, to a point. I've mentioned both things in other threads--indeed, tonight I am having to work with competitor because we just lost local notebooks. That's quite a blow. The confidential stuff has to go somewhere, and apparently "remembering everything important" at Evernote doesn't account for stuff I am ethically and sometimes legally obligated to keep encrypted and/or out of the cloud (other folks' servers). Encrypted notebooks, please...

I was responding specifically to calling out one of the Evernote staff for a "soulless" response, getting into the weeds about how to use other alternative apps (not so much in this thread, but in others), and the attempts to bring legal action or instigate a mass migration away from Evernote. I don't think the *Evernote* forums are a place for doing these things.

I don't remember calling anything negative, per se. Rather, I am trying to focus the thread on the original topic and to encourage everyone to maintain a certain level of respect for one another and the developers. As you said, most folks are doing fine. We all slip once in a while, but as much as possible, I'd like to keep the thread helpful (for us and the developers) and on topic.

The word "soulless" came from me, and I apologize if anyone was offended or felt it was too aggressive language. I suppose passion for the product spilt out in the wrong manner. I just felt that it was a little too "copy paste" for my liking, but I acknowledge I could've worded my reaction more appropriately.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
On 10/11/2020 at 8:14 AM, gazumped said:

Pretty sure its not an EXB file,  but v10 seems to download something in background to allow offline working.  If anyone can track down exactly what,  please let us know!!

I'm using a Mac but the structure may be similar

It looks like Evernote has switched database formats from .sqlite to .leveldb
I can work with .sqlite; I have no idea how to work with this new format

Link to post
  • 0

I too was an early adopter of Evernote and a paying customer for 12 years.  Version 10 is an immense step backward.  They still have a few months to go before it's time to renew, but I think I may have to cancel my premium subscription. :(

 

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0
6 hours ago, DTLow said:

I'm using a Mac but the structure may be similar

It looks like Evernote has switched database formats from .sqlite to .leveldb

You should also look at @ej8899's great detective work further up this thread.

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
On 10/11/2020 at 9:35 AM, ej8899 said:

So... On Windows anyway, your data at:
C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Evernote\resource-cache\UserXXXXXX
you'll find hundreds or thousands of folders depending on your database - I have 37,868 folders myself.    They are numbered the same as that note ID as shown above.

Thanks for your research
I'm from the Mac platform and we're used to seeing this structure; a separate folder for each note
The metadata was stored in a small sqlite database

>>These folders contain our attachments ONLY

Right; Macs historically also had a content.enml file for each note   
Also native extension was maintained; we didn't have to check a .mime file

>>C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Evernote\conduit-storage\https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com
this appears to be our note database as an SQL file.  There is a "localstorage.sql" version and a "remoteGraph.sql" (the most data)

This will be painful to use
Did you notice the sql is loading a database with our data

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/12/2020 at 11:18 PM, lisec said:

The old OneNote used to save the file locally, and I think perhaps the stand-alone app does as well, but I remember getting an email about 2-3 years ago where they said OneNote was now online only. I know there was some distinction between stand-alone and the new OneNote.

@lisec and others, I checked it out:

The desktop version (previous OneNote 2016) - which I use with Microsoft 365 subscription - ALLOWS local notebooks BUT this version will be discontinued in 2025.

In the future it will be replaced by OneNote for Windows 10 (the stand-alone UWP app you mentioned), already available. This app is CLOUD ONLY (notebooks are stored in OneDrive).

So, if local notebooks are crucial, ON is definetely not a long-term solution.

See the story here (by the way, the ON community also criticized Microsoft a lot for killing the ON desktop, but to no avail):

https://office-watch.com/2018/microsoft-kills-onenote-windows/

Hope it helps those looking around

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
29 minutes ago, mi_cha said:

@lisec and others, I checked it out:

The desktop version (previous OneNote 2016) - which I use with Microsoft 365 subscription - ALLOWS local notebooks BUT this version will be discontinued in 2025.

In the future it will be replaced by OneNote for Windows 10 (the stand-alone UWP app you mentioned), already available. This app is CLOUD ONLY (notebooks are stored in OneDrive).

So, if local notebooks are crucial, ON is definetely not a long-term solution.

See the story here (by the way, the ON community also criticized Microsoft a lot for killing the ON desktop, but to no avail):

https://office-watch.com/2018/microsoft-kills-onenote-windows/

Hope it helps those looking around

Thanks for checking that. The timing is good. I was just in OneNote, not having used it since version 2016, and immediately had to google something *very important*.  There is no way to export OneNote notebooks anymore (in the Windows 10 cloud only version).  All one can do is print to pdf.  Geez. This is getting crazy.  I love the cloud as much as the next gal, but don't these companies and programmers realize that way more than half the world doesn't have a good internet connection if they have it at all? Seriously. I live 15 minutes outside a large city that has fiber, and our internet is DSL with 4-5 MB down when we are lucky, and has not been upgraded in 20 years!  

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
20 minutes ago, lisec said:

Thanks for checking that. The timing is good. I was just in OneNote, not having used it since version 2016, and immediately had to google something *very important*.  There is no way to export OneNote notebooks anymore (in the Windows 10 cloud only version).  All one can do is print to pdf.  Geez. This is getting crazy.  I love the cloud as much as the next gal, but don't these companies and programmers realize that way more than half the world doesn't have a good internet connection if they have it at all? Seriously. I live 15 minutes outside a large city that has fiber, and our internet is DSL with 4-5 MB down when we are lucky, and has not been upgraded in 20 years!  

@lisec I am running the desktop app (OneNote 2016) and my export options are:

Page - .one | .docx | .doc | .pdf | .xps | .mht

Section - same formats as "page" above

Notebook - .onepkg | .pdf | .xps | .mht

You can still download OneNote 2016 and install it, but I am not sure if it opens a OneNote Windows 10 cloud database.

Link to post
  • 0

In the version before 10.1 if you right clicked a note there was an option to convert the note into a PDF attachment and a new note was created. It was not the most elegant design and an "export to PDF" would have been nice, but I used it regularly. Where is that funcion in version 10.1? 

Link to post
  • 0

desired feature: tags - preview of already assigned tags in a notebook by clicking on filter

You are in a notebook and wan't to filter by tags. Now, I have to click on Filter, and got to search, type the tag I want to filter for and press enter.

It would be great, when pressing on filter, to get a list of all tags, that are assigned in that notbook. So you can click on that tag, or on several tags, to filter much faster. You also would get an overview of all existing tags in that notebook.

 

 

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
On 10/19/2020 at 11:49 AM, Fusion Laptop said:

I too was an early adopter of Evernote and a paying customer for 12 years.  Version 10 is an immense step backward.  They still have a few months to go before it's time to renew, but I think I may have to cancel my premium subscription. :(

See Ian Small recent video - explains v10.0 released as (almost) blank slate on which to bring back old and add new features.  There's more to follow.  Allegedly.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
14 minutes ago, gazumped said:

See Ian Small recent video - explains v10.0 released as (almost) blank slate on which to bring back old and add new features.  There's more to follow.  Allegedly.

Yep, they have good intention for sure. However, another question remains. Do they also have ability (skills, money, engineering & managerial processes, etc.) to execute properly and deliver on promises..?

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0

 

4 hours ago, mczin said:

desired feature: tags - preview of already assigned tags in a notebook by clicking on filter

You are in a notebook and wan't to filter by tags. Now, I have to click on Filter, and got to search, type the tag I want to filter for and press enter.

It would be great, when pressing on filter, to get a list of all tags, that are assigned in that notbook. So you can click on that tag, or on several tags, to filter much faster. You also would get an overview of all existing tags in that notebook.

 

 

 

I agree. See my list of all the search/filter issues I am aware of (including this one).

 

Link to post
  • 0

I have just researched the issue of ON's end of production date and it may look like MS is changing its mind or at least considering different approach.

https://office-watch.com/2019/good-news-for-onenote-with-windows-as-microsoft-does-a-180/

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/7/20953691/microsoft-onenote-to-do-integration-fluid-framework-future-features-ignite-2019

https://office-watch.com/2019/new-features-promised-for-onenote/

18 hours ago, mi_cha said:

The desktop version (previous OneNote 2016) - which I use with Microsoft 365 subscription - ALLOWS local notebooks BUT this version will be discontinued in 2025.

In the future it will be replaced by OneNote for Windows 10 (the stand-alone UWP app you mentioned), already available. This app is CLOUD ONLY (notebooks are stored in OneDrive).

See the story here (by the way, the ON community also criticized Microsoft a lot for killing the ON desktop, but to no avail):

https://office-watch.com/2018/microsoft-kills-onenote-windows/

 

Link to post
  • 0
35 minutes ago, Kolmir said:

Good news! I guess the negative feedback changed their mind. They plan premium features for Microsoft 365 subscribers in 2021.

Here is the FAQ about OneNote
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/frequently-asked-questions-about-onenote-in-office-2019-and-microsoft-365-6582c7ae-2ec6-408d-8b7a-3ed71a3c2103

Quote

Note: Our product names for OneNote on Windows have recently changed. Throughout this article, “OneNote” now refers to the desktop version (previously called ”OneNote 2016”), and “OneNote for Windows 10” refers to the Microsoft Store app that’s available only on Windows 10.

Can I continue using OneNote?

Yes, you can continue using OneNote as we are aligning this product with our Office 2019 support dates. The OneNote desktop app is installed by default alongside Word, PowerPoint, and Excel for Microsoft 365 subscriptions that include the client apps and Office 2019. 

When will we see additional premium value in OneNote for Microsoft 365 subscriptions?

We are working hard to include features like advanced sharing and editing in OneNote for Microsoft 365 subscriptions in 2021.

How long will you continue to support OneNote?

OneNote support dates will align with Office 2019 support dates (October 10, 2023 for mainstream support and October 14, 2025 for extended support).

What additional benefits do I get if I use OneNote with an Microsoft 365 subscription or as part of Office 2019?

Your Microsoft 365 subscription unlocks: Local notebook support

2025 seems to be the end date of extended support only, it does not mean it will discontinued (as implied before). The desktop version is bundled with Microsoft 365 subscriptions, while the Windows 10 app remains a free download.

Whatever the life cycle of ON may be, one thing is certain: LOCAL notebooks work with the desktop version only. The windows app 10 saves all notebooks to the cloud.

My ON is attached to a Microsoft 365 subscription, and it works fine. The mobile apps (Android smartphone/tablet) are really great. No problems with syncing.

But, as I said somewhere else: I can't imagine managing +20k large notes in OneNote, as I do in EN6. I work in ON with shared business notebooks (once my part is over, the owner ceases sharing them with me, so the amount of information is temporary and easily manageable) but my "entire life" is in EN6. You just can't compare EN6 organization/search tools with ON, EN6 is much, much, much better.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

All this proprietary format stuff is really making me reconsider markdown as a suitable storage format now. And this idea won't work for a lot. I'm more about text, images, attachments and OCR. Less about the styling.

I'm beginning to wonder about a note editor which only really deals with MD format. And also piggybacks on existing mature cloud storage as the backend, single source of truth, from which syncs are performed.

Some note platforms will take an attachment you drop in, upload it to the cloud (Dropbox , Drive etc.) and replace the attachment portion of your note with an embedded link. It's still markdown at the end of the day.

I get it that enex is a form of HTML (I think it is - I'm away from my PC) but if I migrate out of EN, it's going to be painful for sure. Moving over to a massive block of markdown files (as opposed to one massive exb), managed by a front end client and a cloud (and offline) store, is appealing more and more.

 

Alternative note takers (many based around MD) have sprung up over the past few years. I've felt (and accepted) locked into EN despite their comparative lack of progression (unless I'm mistaken, their biggest achievement was their migration to Google Cloud as the back end). But for many of us, v10 is unworkable. If EN do plan to reintroduce missing features, they've a dreadful way of communicating that. That fact, and other past mistakes combine to make me really question my 12 year loyalty now.

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*

Hi. Evernote keeps a copy of your notes on your computer’s hard drive, so while it is true that ultimately the server version is the ”official” one, it is not the only one. Dropbox, iCloud, etc. work a similar way. If there is a problem, Evernote also records note histories (I assume this remains in v10), so you can revert to earlier versions of a note. 

Exporting as .html is one option, .enex is another. At least, those options used to exist, and will probably be added again. Competitors make some pretty slick import options (for the legacy app), so I’ve found it almost effortless to move everything out of Evernote.

Markdown is wonderful, but something quite different than what Evernote is doing. The comparioson only works well if you primarily use text. The more you use other formats, the more useful Evernote is. If you are only using text, Evernote probably seems like it has a lot of unnecessary features!

Link to post
  • 0

Oh no I use so many features of EN, and am big on fonts. It just seems a lot of competitors focus on MD, so I may need to rethink my reliance on heavy styling.

The HTML export would likely take some scripting (especially to preserve the myriad of tags I use), which I'm not even sure exists for Windows (it's Applescript for Macs isn't it?). 

I'm being premature anyway; I'm sticking around to see what happens. I'd be gutted to leave.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
On 10/15/2020 at 10:10 PM, t8769 said:

Cannot remove spellcheck

Yes, this is CRUCIAL.

I found the EN team post that explains that EN doesn't have an internal spellchecker, it's the OS. Ok but I've *never* used the OS spellchecker. Does it mean I'd have to teach Microsoft Word all my fancy words? Or teach it to chrome? Is the new Evernote an Electron app based on chromium?

Hell, I won't do that anyway.

So now all my notes are stained EVERYWHERE with RED underline, like a schoolteacher came during the night and made 1 billion corrections, ERRONEOUS corrections to my notes. WARNING WARNING PROBLEM PROBLEM oh that WORD has a PROBLEM too.

Link to post
  • 0

Adding tags to a note by using the search below a note could be better.

Example: Name of the tag is ":waiting". 

Problem: If you type "wai", the search below the note will not propose the tag ":waiting"

But the global search and the search in the tag-area on the other hand will.

 

Link to post
  • 0
2 hours ago, mczin said:

Adding tags to a note by using the search below a note could be better.

Example: Name of the tag is ":waiting". 

Problem: If you type "wai", the search below the note will not propose the tag ":waiting"

But the global search and the search in the tag-area on the other hand will.

 

The search at the bottom of the note is more of a type ahead than a true search so you do need to start with the correct character. 

The other option for adding a tag is to use the edit tags box. alt-ctrl-T if you are in the note list or note -> edit tags from everywhere. Here you do get a true search. However there is no option for a simple alphabetical list so you need to find the tag within your tag hierarchy if you have one. 

image.png.7786340dd444376166e17bd39ce8ced9.png

Link to post
  • 0
20 hours ago, avevers said:

All this proprietary format stuff is really making me reconsider markdown as a suitable storage format now. And this idea won't work for a lot. I'm more about text, images, attachments and OCR. Less about the styling.

I'm beginning to wonder about a note editor which only really deals with MD format. And also piggybacks on existing mature cloud storage as the backend, single source of truth, from which syncs are performed.

Some note platforms will take an attachment you drop in, upload it to the cloud (Dropbox , Drive etc.) and replace the attachment portion of your note with an embedded link. It's still markdown at the end of the day.

That is exactly my thinking as well.  I've never liked using anything proprietary but I have, a lot, and have always had to get out at some point, losing data or having to take screenshots of the data. I never learn my lesson. Evernote is/was so perfect for my needs: text and images and attachments and links all in one note. Cross platform. Searchable. But I was concerned about the single exb file or enex file exports. And I despise what exporting to html does to my local folder/file structure. If only txt files could include images and attachments and easy local links! That would be my dream come true. 

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0
On 10/11/2020 at 6:01 PM, gazumped said:

Yup.  I have a 25GB+ database.  If I update and install the legacy version it looks like Evernote will eat 50GB+ of my storage space for the 'hidden' v10 store and my public 6.25 EXB. 

gazumped: can you clarify something for me? Does this increase happen when you install both legacy and v10, or does it also happen when you install legacy on its own?  

Link to post
  • 0
5 minutes ago, lisec said:

gazumped: can you clarify something for me? Does this increase happen when you install both legacy and v10, or does it also happen when you install legacy on its own?  

I'm not Gazumped - but can tell you - on Windows anyway - that both of these are separate - if you're running Legacay and don't want to play with v10 - uninstall and you should only have the Legacy database remaining.   In my case, I have a 38gb database - I have the entire database downloaded in Legacy and v10 also downloads the entire database - so I have 76gb of space used up with Evernote - if I remove either Legacy or v10, I'll drop back to 38gb used. 

Legacy and v10 databases are completely separate and completely different database formats. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
3 minutes ago, ej8899 said:

 if you're running Legacy and don't want to play with v10 - uninstall and you should only have the Legacy database remaining.

Ok. But if I install legacy it only installs legacy, right? It doesn't  auto install both legacy and v10 (after which I would have to uninstall v10)?

Link to post
  • 0
1 minute ago, lisec said:

Ok. But if I install legacy it only installs legacy, right? It doesn't also auto install both legacy and v10 (after which I would have to uninstall v10)?

Legacy appears to be completely stand alone and not attached to v10. 

Link to post
  • 0
3 hours ago, lisec said:

That is exactly my thinking as well.  I've never liked using anything proprietary but I have, a lot, and have always had to get out at some point, losing data or having to take screenshots of the data. I never learn my lesson. Evernote is/was so perfect for my needs: text and images and attachments and links all in one note. Cross platform. Searchable. But I was concerned about the single exb file or enex file exports. And I despise what exporting to html does to my local folder/file structure. If only txt files could include images and attachments and easy local links! That would be my dream come true. 

Well I know that testing any alternative is really going to take some time, as I probably overanalyze software.

Movingto something else though has got to be worth it though. @lisec - you might want to check out Obsidian. I've read very good things about it, but I've not explored it much. Simple Notes and Nimbus are both on my radar also. I already use Notion but, for me, it's just not there yet.

Link to post
  • 0
3 minutes ago, avevers said:

@lisec - you might want to check out Obsidian. I've read very good things about it, but I've not explored it much. Simple Notes and Nimbus are both on my radar also. I already use Notion but, for me, it's just not there yet.

I'll take a look, but honestly I think that Evernote was the last proprietary thing for me (aside from email). If I get out, I'll stay out. I'll revert to old school with txt and jpg and a good file explorer/search engine, or maybe some database that keeps my files where they are but just displays them in a pretty way. 

  • Like 3
Link to post
  • 0

Simple Note caused a lot of problems when I used it last year, it was very bad at updating and always crashing.

I really was happy to be with Evernote, far more reliable.

I'm hoping Evernote 10 will be fixed.

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
  • 0
15 minutes ago, lisec said:

I'll take a look, but honestly I think that Evernote was the last proprietary thing for me (aside from email). If I get out, I'll stay out. I'll revert to old school with txt and jpg and a good file explorer/search engine, or maybe some database that keeps my files where they are but just displays them in a pretty way. 

 

Obsidian only works with markdown files; from my (limited) understanding, it's a front end to those files but with sophisticated linking and graphing technology overlaid. This is why I am interested in MD - you can take those files anywhere without necessary exporting (as you'd have to do with Evernote) - you just need an editor and a viewer to present it. Heck - a normal text editor to edit it and a browser to present it would suffice. But these MD clients offer more than just editing or rendering. Things are missing from Obsidian though - OCR, native mobile apps etc.. Depends on what you're looking for or what matters. For me, I use most if not all of Evernote's features, so right now Obsidian doesn't cut it in that respect. Just like Notion doesn't. But they're fascinating products nonetheless. 

 

Link to post
  • 0
11 minutes ago, avevers said:

 

Obsidian only works with markdown files; from my (limited) understanding, it's a front end to those files but with sophisticated linking and graphing technology overlaid. This is why I am interested in MD - you can take those files anywhere without necessary exporting (as you'd have to do with Evernote) - you just need an editor and a viewer to present it. Heck - a normal text editor to edit it and a browser to present it would suffice. But these MD clients offer more than just editing or rendering. Things are missing from Obsidian though - OCR, native mobile apps etc.. Depends on what you're looking for or what matters. For me, I use most if not all of Evernote's features, so right now Obsidian doesn't cut it in that respect. Just like Notion doesn't. But they're fascinating products nonetheless. 

 

This sounds promising... there might be an independent way to OCR, and as for mobile, I'd probably be happy just to use a sync service (google drive, dropbox) to have access from anywhere...

Link to post
  • 0

Mobile apps for Obsidian are coming apparently but as you say, you can use a combination of apps to replicate a lot of EN's functionality (OCR, sync etc. - heck, even GitHub for a note's version history). Sync all of it, some of it or none of it. They're just files in folders.

I think one should think of the desktop as the main Obsidian client (with the plug-ins and bells and whistles); other markdown viewers and editors are used on other platforms (mobile, web etc.) with reduced functionality. But it's all still markdown.

Here's Obsidian's roadmap:

https://trello.com/b/Psqfqp7I/obsidian-roadmap

 

Link to post
  • 0

The new Evernote for Windows is missing some of my most used features, especially Import Folders and the ability to layout the screen the way I want it. I have read many of the other comments about the changes and I agree that the changes in functions was way too drastic. I will be switching back to version 6 if I can.

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/10/2020 at 10:56 AM, mi_cha said:

I`ve just installed the new v. 10 and I just couldn't believe my eyes: oh, no, they kept most of the horrible beta version they realeased a few weeks ago!

I would't call it an upgrade. I see it as a new concept, a whole new design - and they turned the back to old customers, simple as that.

I spend 90%> of my computer time at Evernote. It has been so for the past 11 years, my workflow is based on Evernote, I have thousands of notes.

They messed everything up.

My first shock (not yet recovered): they killed the local databases and syncing. Who asked me if I want to have all my notes on the cloud ALONE?

I'm collecting a list of missing functions and I'll add to this node.

For now, my statement is that the downgraded their own piece of software. They sacrified a robust desktop client in favour to an Andoid-like app: just the basics.

Not my idea of a note taking software.

I made the mistake of upgrading today. It called my "Conflicting notes" folder local and gave me a choice to export it. I, too, do not like that the local database has been removed. I read a recommendation that you should avoid having two or more people work on the same note at the same time. Hello! When you work with others, this happens and having EN tag a note as "conflicting" was helpful. Most of the time I did not have to merge the note, but alerting me to the possibility that the note was out-of-sync was a plus.

I clipped a web page...and this is how I got into full WTH happened mode! I am no longer able to edit the clip. It almost looks like you inserted a picture. Did I clip it wrong? I used to be able to highlight, remove extraneous sections, add comments in between, etc. etc. (This must be payback for complaining that sometimes a web page is clipped into a single narrow column. j/k!)

EN is what I use to build a "knowledge base" (mainly) for what I do - technical support. I also keep stuff for personal use and share the work-related notebooks. When you use a search engine to research a problem, you come up with a lot of information. I go through and clip ones that seem to be a "solution". Some pages don't have complete information so we sometimes have to piece things together (either I make a notation, highlight, bold, etc) in between. I will merge notes and may summarize what worked and what didn't. This becomes a reference for future troubleshooting and with the power of EN search, we can find the note quickly.

From there, I can also create a task and send it through TaskClone to my task app. EN does not do well with reminders, but that was okay because EN focuses more on note taking and searching.

I tried to import EN to OneNote a while back. It was a disaster. Maybe I'm not good at organizing my EN notebooks, but it created a BIG mess in OneNote that would have taken a long time to fix (re-organize). Maybe I should have exported in smaller pieces??

I'm going to look at the recommendations that people have been discussing then try to see if I have an older EN version to downgrade to. *sigh*

Notion says I can get the Pro Plan for free if I use my work email. I pay for EN using personal funds and with talks about having to take a pay cut, getting something for $0 is appealing. Standard notes is also free with extended features for $2.48 per month (5-year billing cycle) or $9.99 per month. I hope there are ways to tie these in with a task app.

Link to post
  • 0

Note Links used to work transparently - I click a link, I get the linked note.

Now, I get a small window with the link address which I have to click again to get to the linked note.

If instead, I CRTL-click the link I do go straight to the linked note but the small window remains and I have to click it again to close it.

 

Bottomline: note links, which I use extensively, were a one-click affair. Now they're 2-click affairs

pete

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/10/2020 at 4:55 PM, MarcSant said:

It's unbelievable how such a good product can turn into such a bad thing that it induces a customer from years of using the product and the platform to start a process of mass migration of their data to the competition. 

How can a company do not make a market research, a survey among its loyal customers about what they expect or not from a new version. To me, if Evernote continues like this, it really died. And there it is to look for alternatives to other products, which maybe don't have all the features of Evernote but at least they don't charge us for what they can't offer, different from Evernote which keeps charging and at the same time has removed crucial functions for me.

Let's go to the list of CRUCIAL functions that have been removed, and that for me disfigure the whole product:

- There is no way to change the color of lateral toolbar from Dark. 

- There is no way to put shortcuts list in the top of screen. It will not move anymore

- There are only FIVE Fonts. For me that store computer code in the notes, it is A TERRIBLE choice

- Desktop App is a web based one, and notes are not synchronized anymore. Just turn off your Ethernet adapter and the program will not show notes anymore. The proof is that you are able to show "developer options" that show a web page render in the right side of the screen. Another proof is you can use the old classic version side by side with the new one, so the new version 10 is not using the database files that is stored locally.

- I can't change the Interface Language. I like to use English Interface, since I can have a lot of info in foruns instead to get translated the Brazilian version to English one.

- I can't create a Notebook inside the Notebook stack as I always did. You need to first create the Notebook, then move it to stack

- I can't grab a screen capture anymore

- I can't Paste text directly to Evernote note (CTRL+shitf+V) anymore

- I can't import a folder anymore

- I can't un-stack a Notebook from a stack using right click mouse. I need to drag an drop them. 

- I can't narrow a search inside a specific Notebook or Notebook Stack.

Please, if you noted some another missing feature, feel free to contribute to this list.

Agree to most of your points, except that Evernote desktop is a web app. It is not. 1) Ian Small stated in an interview with Tom Solid that the desktop app has been developed from the scratch and isn't a web app. 2) Tried myself and put my laptop into the flight mode. I had access to all my notes, including notes I have never touched since I installed version 10 of Evernote. So all notebooks and notes are stored locally on your device, not internet connection required.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Sad 1
Link to post
  • 0

I'm not sure what the people in charge were smoking when they decided on the feature set, but to say this new version is a disaster for me would be an understatement. No local notebooks is a killer, right there. And no import folders and breaking integration with my old ScanSnap? Those three things are the most used features for me. I have been using Evernote since 2009 (and paying since 2010), and this is a disaster of an upgrade. As much as I hate to do it, it is time to start looking at options.

I do have some questions. I installed the new version, but stopped it when it wanted to convert my local notebooks (there are reasons why they are local). I promptly uninstalled it again and reinstalled the Legacy version. Are there any other steps I need to do to clean up? There was some discussion earlier about the double storage used when running both versions, but I am not sure if uninstalling the new one clears that up.

As a software designer, it is blindingly obvious that you do not just remove major features like these. I can't imagine their thought process.

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0
On 10/10/2020 at 9:55 AM, MarcSant said:

- I can't grab a screen capture anymore

oh man, this is a bummer. This is was the single thing I used the most. Why would they do this?

 

Suggestions for other note handling apps where to migrate my stuff?

Link to post
  • 0

I like that this is a refresh but no presentation mode is a massive miss for me.

I do not want to migrate to another note taking app - I've been a premium user for a number of years, but I am now forced to look elsewhere and potentially cancel my subscription.

Improve the underlying structure all you want - but list what you are removing from this new release somewhere (and perhaps give a short reason why!). 

Thanks

  • Sad 1
Link to post
  • 0
12 minutes ago, dcon said:

v10 is an Electron app

Generally speaking, are electron apps slower than native desktop apps that we had been used to before? Generic question to understand the electron apps better and whether I should just prepare myself for slow apps?!

What are the limitations to the electron apps and the advantages?

Link to post
  • 0
5 minutes ago, TK0047 said:

Mine is painfully slow!!! I have tried it on a remote desktop, local machine (laptop), local desktop at home....and all 3 is below my standards. The lag is beyond noticeable. I can understand it won't be instantaneous but if I am waiting for note the go away after I moved it to a different notebook, that is an issue for me.

My next question then is why is it so different for many users? Is it the number of notes? 

And since the legacy app works fast on the same computer, I would conclude that there is an issue here aside from the performance or the capability of the PC.

It is strange how it is affecting so many users in so many ways, I honestly cant answer that but I hope the EN devs are looking at it. It has to be more than PC hardware as one person posted about bad delays and they were using a pretty well spec'd machine. Maybe there is a link between content size and performance, I don't keep a large number of notes in it anymore after moving mainly to OneNote so that may be why my experience is not as bad as yours. I have seen users mention they have 50k notes etc so it would be good to get some performance comparisons from those. And maybe the size of the note content itself also plays into it.

How much RAM and CPU is being used on your machines with EN running, and have you tried monitoring it as you navigate through different notes/notebooks?

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5
16 hours ago, Colleen O said:

I clipped a web page...and this is how I got into full WTH happened mode! I am no longer able to edit the clip. It almost looks like you inserted a picture. Did I clip it wrong? I used to be able to highlight, remove extraneous sections, add comments in between, etc. etc.

Check and see if there is a gray box/border around the clip. If so, click on its top bar. There should be a "magic wand" icon offering to make the material in the box editable. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but almost always. The Web client has been doing this for quite awhile, and so it has come to the desktop programs.

Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5
7 hours ago, Tone Engel said:

In addition to those I had time to find in what's already been posted, here are a few more:

  • Insert date/time used to allow the format to be specified. It is no longer useful as I need to use it. Keyboard shortcut was also changed.
  • Indent and un-indent keyboard shortcuts are gone. Guessing MANY other shortcuts are gone.
  • Preferences being reduced to one flag "Save Data at Log Out" is just an enormous slap in the face of anyone whose workflow has benefited from previously available options.

Here is the list of KB shortcuts for the Windows program, with a handy (and pretty dismaying) comparison table with "older versions": https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209004807. It claims that Ctrl+[Shift]+M still work to [un-]indent. Here is an announcement post, which lists some (not all) of the features not yet implemented (preferences is one of them, so apparently will be coming back) and "no longer supported": https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047889234.

WRT specifying date/time format, I seem to remember having to do that at the Windows system level, which ought to still be possible; at any rate, it's not in the v. 6.25 preferences.

Link to post
  • 0
2 hours ago, DMiddleton said:

How much RAM and CPU is being used on your machines with EN running, and have you tried monitoring it as you navigate through different notes/notebooks?

So when I am on the local desktop, it is consuming the most memory for sure, right now as I type this it is taking up the most memory and I am not even doing anything in it.

I attached screenshots from it while, I was moving a note, or assigning tags.

Local Desktop.png

Local Desktop 2.png

Local Desktop 3.png

Link to post
  • 0
1 hour ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Check and see if there is a gray box/border around the clip. If so, click on its top bar. There should be a "magic wand" icon offering to make the material in the box editable. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but almost always. The Web client has been doing this for quite awhile, and so it has come to the desktop programs.

Thanks for the tip but I have reverted to a version that I had the download for (6.19). Back in my comfort zone and a little less stressed but am testing migration to ON today - it's taking a while to import one set of notebooks (800+ notes) -  and looking further into other possibilities, though there is no equivalent.

If I discontinue EN, it will require a lot of change and adaptation on my end and I do not look forward to that.

Hoping that EN is listening and anxious to hear what they decide to do...

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
2 hours ago, DMiddleton said:

How much RAM and CPU is being used on your machines with EN running, and have you tried monitoring it as you navigate through different notes/notebooks?

And these are on the remote desktop which has way more processing power and memory than my laptop of course. Again takes up the most CPU compared to anything that is running. This does not look normal to me but I am not the expert here at all.

102852518_RemoteDesktop.png.a924575198bf304cb4cb0211d99974dc.png458450348_RemoteDesktop2.png.31a1b7e3ba3c5b110ed334fd2adbae7f.png

Link to post
  • 0

Ugh, I use screen capture all the time!  It's just GONE.  This is a very important feature in my work!  Would have liked to know about removing functionality prior to upgrading.

Is there a work around?

Link to post
  • 0

Hi All,

The version 10 has been pushed into my Mac this morning and I am surprised to see the handy options are gone! There is no right to left language support anymore! So, all R2L docos are useless now. Any suggestion for an alternative solution?

Link to post
  • 0
8 hours ago, AlexAtx said:

Ugh, I use screen capture all the time!  It's just GONE.  This is a very important feature in my work!  Would have liked to know about removing functionality prior to upgrading.

Is there a work around?

In the coming soon section of the release notes it says

Quote

- Write quick notes and clip screenshots with the Evernote Helper companion app. (Mac - Click the Evernote icon in your menu bar. Windows - Right-click the Evernote icon in your system tray.)

Meanwhile I am using the Gadwin Printscreen utility and simply pasting in to a note. I can't stop it saving the picture to my HD as well but I just periodically purge the unwanted files.

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0
10 hours ago, TK0047 said:

So when I am on the local desktop, it is consuming the most memory for sure, right now as I type this it is taking up the most memory and I am not even doing anything in it.

I attached screenshots from it while, I was moving a note, or assigning tags.

 

Local Desktop 2.png

 

It may be worth raising this with support and sending them the same screenshots as that seems pretty high, in comparison mine is using almost no CPU resources while viewing a note.
image.png.d597053d55486361255c5e1d8bcda57e.png

A

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

I am missing the code formating {}

In Evernote 10 there is a workaround: to copy an existing code-formattied fragment and to change its contents. But is is rather clumsy.

The following problems:

{}, PrintScreen, Spellcheck and only web based DB

are showstoppers for me.

 

Link to post
  • 0
20 minutes ago, psv said:

I am missing the code formating {}

In Evernote 10 there is a workaround: to copy an existing code-formattied fragment and to change its contents. But is is rather clumsy.

The following problems:

{}, PrintScreen, Spellcheck and only web based DB

are showstoppers for me.

 

Does insert -> code block not meet your needs?

The markdown shortcut ``` also works. And best of all you can now do inline code using a single back tick before and after.

image.png.a005d2d8fa2fc6d3aef3afdb7c1a9bca.png

 

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/21/2020 at 7:10 PM, Mike P said:

The search at the bottom of the note is more of a type ahead than a true search so you do need to start with the correct character. 

The other option for adding a tag is to use the edit tags box. alt-ctrl-T if you are in the note list or note -> edit tags from everywhere. Here you do get a true search. However there is no option for a simple alphabetical list so you need to find the tag within your tag hierarchy if you have one. 

image.png.7786340dd444376166e17bd39ce8ced9.png

@Mike P Thank you for your answer.

It looks like ALT+CRTL+T opens that menu only if the curser is positioned in the title of the note. 

So, one has to do several steps to open that menu.

I Hope that Evernote changes the ahead search at the bottom of note-area (and moves the tags back to the top of the notes).

 

 

 

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/10/2020 at 6:48 PM, Kolmir said:

. . . 

However, maybe we can do more, for example like all users of EvN will stop paying subscription at once or contact investors or maybe consider class action lawsuit? 

Next, they'll insert ads for non-premium users. . .  we know how this goes . . .  ads based on note contents. . . 

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

Something I didn't like either in the previous version, but wasn't so grave as one luckily had the chance to customize things, is the conversion of "- + space" into a bullet point.

I am pretty sure this isn't a big deal for some people, but I write long lists and I don't want to have to change the bullet point into a dash manually each time.

This is the reason why customization matters, so people can find the most comfortable way that works for them.

This forced feature sure is irritating as hell, and I'm sure fixing it won't even be a full day of a progammer's job

Link to post
  • 0

Unfortunately I upgraded to Evernote Version 10 yesterday.
This was a big mistake 🤬

  • The performance is a disaster
  • Why have the tags moved to the footer? Back to the top!!!
  • Why is there no menu for settings anymore?
  • Where is the Sync button?
  • Why can't I turn off the spellchecker? I have many German and English texts. All English texts I edit are completely underlined in red because my Windows is set to German.
  • I have many snippets/links from websites. Why is the "Go to source" button no longer available, but only after clicking on the web clip?
  • When I want to edit a "Web Clip" or just mark it, the formatting is almost always shot to pieces with "Simplify and make editable".

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
On 10/22/2020 at 1:58 PM, eddyj said:

I'm not sure what the people in charge were smoking when they decided on the feature set, but to say this new version is a disaster for me would be an understatement. No local notebooks is a killer, right there. And no import folders and breaking integration with my old ScanSnap? Those three things are the most used features for me. I have been using Evernote since 2009 (and paying since 2010), and this is a disaster of an upgrade. As much as I hate to do it, it is time to start looking at options.

I do have some questions. I installed the new version, but stopped it when it wanted to convert my local notebooks (there are reasons why they are local). I promptly uninstalled it again and reinstalled the Legacy version. Are there any other steps I need to do to clean up? There was some discussion earlier about the double storage used when running both versions, but I am not sure if uninstalling the new one clears that up.

As a software designer, it is blindingly obvious that you do not just remove major features like these. I can't imagine their thought process.

It was a staggering decision. Even if they intend to restore those missing features, what a way to not communicate them in advance. A textbook example of what not to do.

  • Like 4
Link to post
  • 0

This is incredible.

I can't even delete a note on the Windows app anymore.

Right click and then select "Move to Trash", or perform a key combination of "Ctrl + Backspace".  Really Evernote?  The "Delete" button on the keyboard wasn't sufficient?

I work in the technical space and Evernote was a Godsend to me, due to some of it's key features like Screen Snips and Import folders.  Screen Snips were specifically critical for when I was remoting in to a client's machine and annotating screen shots of issues or report modifications on the spot.  Now, that feature, along with a host of others (mentioned at the top of this string) have disappeared.

Noticeable, and meaningful, crucial features which are now missing:

  • No Screen Snip
  • No more Import Folder
  • Unable to "Save As" (which I use to Save to a PDF file for internal and external Knowledge Base articles)
  • Unable to Email a note

The top two are in red because I use these two features everyday, multiple times a day.  The Screen Snip has really given me cause for concern and am now going to try and see about reverting Evernote back to the older version.  If I can't do that or if I don't see any positive feedback from the Evernote team regarding re-implementing these features, I have to start planning a migration to another platform (likely One Note).

I loved Evernote and would praise it's capabilities to anyone, but after this downgrade (or premature release), I'm having a hard time convincing myself that this is viable option for me.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
On 10/11/2020 at 8:53 PM, lisec said:

I'm as pissed as everyone else, and really angry at Evernote for putting out this version without FULL details (surely they must have expected this blow-back), BUT, now that they have their 2 years worth of work leveling out the playing field across all platforms, which is what they said their intention was, I'm still willing to hang around for a bit and wait for all the missing features to be implemented. I mean at the end of the day, their BIG mistake was to put this out now instead of waiting until all they implemented all the features. So I'll hang on the older version and give them a bit of time to do their work. Yes, the screwed up big time with this, but it really was just an error of releasing too early. At least that's what I hope.

My version got automatically updated, do you know how to go back to the old version?

Link to post
  • 0
3 minutes ago, Apolino said:

My version got automatically updated, do you know how to go back to the old version?

  1. Click here Version: 6.25.1.9091 (thank you CalS for providing this link)
  2. Click on the "Download" button at the top right
  3. It may download "OperaSetup.exe" first, but don't run it, and simply ignore it, it'll eventually download the older version
  4. Run the install
  5. You'll now have both versions available to you

Personally, I'm going to keep both versions active so I can check in on the new version periodically to see if they're changed anything.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

I can not figure out how to look at a list of overdue reminders.  I have had issues with drag and drop and the response is slow.

I hate to be one of those people who cuss out new versions but...  I'm going to spend some time this weekend looking at OneNote.

 

 

Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5
1 hour ago, Apolino said:

Something I didn't like either in the previous version, but wasn't so grave as one luckily had the chance to customize things, is the conversion of "- + space" into a bullet point.

I am pretty sure this isn't a big deal for some people, but I write long lists and I don't want to have to change the bullet point into a dash manually each time.

This is the reason why customization matters, so people can find the most comfortable way that works for them.

This forced feature sure is irritating as hell, and I'm sure fixing it won't even be a full day of a progammer's job

It was possible to turn this feature off in the previous version, by unchecking automatic formatting in the Note section of Options. Maybe when app preferences come (back) to v. 10, this will also reappear.

Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
28 minutes ago, jon.r.rose said:

This saved me the trouble of having to look for the old install.

You have no idea how much I appreciate this.

Glad to help.

Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5
20 hours ago, AlexAtx said:

Ugh, I use screen capture all the time!  It's just GONE.  This is a very important feature in my work!  Would have liked to know about removing functionality prior to upgrading.

Is there a work around?

Hi, and welcome to the forums. According to the release notes for v. 10.1, "coming soon" is an "Evernote Helper" that will include this feature:

Quote

Write quick notes and clip screenshots with the Evernote Helper companion app (Windows - Right-click the Evernote icon in your system tray)

 

Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
32 minutes ago, Apolino said:

My version got automatically updated, do you know how to go back to the old version?

You can go back to the older version until this gets sorted, hopefully.

Link to post
  • 0
18 minutes ago, ScottSimmonds said:

I can not figure out how to look at a list of overdue reminders. 

Didn't you always have to do this with advanced search syntax? The reminders are now in a seperate tab in the notes view and show all reminders which have not been completed, but obviously some are not yet due. Or you can search for something like

reminderTime:-50 -reminderDoneTime:*

which will find all reminders for the last 50 days which have not been completed

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/22/2020 at 7:38 PM, richtpt said:

Another thing that is driving me nuts is the line spacing.  It's about double what it was.  I make my font as small as I can read so I can fit as much as possible in the window, but with V10 I can't get that much in the window.

Oh yes, I only see about 40% of the notebooks in the left sidebar if you compare it to the legacy version--now I have to scroll a lot more to get to a notebook, it's very cumbersome.

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/22/2020 at 12:38 PM, Vigilante said:

Agree to most of your points, except that Evernote desktop is a web app. It is not. 1) Ian Small stated in an interview with Tom Solid that the desktop app has been developed from the scratch and isn't a web app. 2) Tried myself and put my laptop into the flight mode. I had access to all my notes, including notes I have never touched since I installed version 10 of Evernote. So all notebooks and notes are stored locally on your device, not internet connection required.

Hi, I had different experience, but before I list all of them I would like to mention:

I fould the folder, where could be the local database stored. (Fantastic for local backups!) Please help me to prove it:
"C:\Users\NAME\AppData\Roaming\Evernote\conduit-storage\https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com"
(I have never seen any folder named this way "https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com") anyway:

  1. The Evernote 10 does not modify the database files used by legacy version — which means, that it creates its own local database or cache.
  2. When ethernet turned off, the notes I did not visited yet were unreachable. Only the headlines, no content. The content appeared after switching ethernet back on.
  3. Once visited, the note appears instantly when opening again later.
  4. The note I am opening for first time with Evernote 10 takes longer to load — it is obviously downloaded from the cloud. Which brings me to the next point:
  5. How the syncing works? Do I have to click to every single note to get it localy? Even after a few hours of EVN 10 running it was the same. In old version everything was downloaded to the local database.
  6. The folder with the database which I am mentioning above contains a SQL file which get bigger after each time when another note is opened and downloaded — as described in point 4.
  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

2 more capabilities that are missing from the Windows version (I'm not referring to the browser-based version)...

1.  Cannot make "View as attachment" the default for .pdf files.
2.  Cannot force a sync.  (So, when I go back and forth between computers, I don't know if I'm looking at the latest version of a note.)
3.  Cannot search within the currently viewed notebook  (not the entire database, and not just the current note)

Plus this error:  Cannot delete a notebook!!!

         ...Art Lieberman...

Link to post
  • 0
On 10/23/2020 at 4:17 AM, TK0047 said:

So when I am on the local desktop, it is consuming the most memory for sure, right now as I type this it is taking up the most memory and I am not even doing anything in it.

I attached screenshots from it while, I was moving a note, or assigning tags.

Local Desktop.png

Local Desktop 2.png

Local Desktop 3.png

 

I experience the same. Evernote has being using much system memory , left my remain memory little for my other apps 

Link to post
  • 0
3 hours ago, artlieberman said:

3.  Cannot search within the currently viewed notebook  (not the entire database, and not just the current note)

If you start in a notebook (which seems logical if you want to search it) and click the search bar, immediately below the input area is the name of the notebook (in very faint gray) and the words add filter. If you click add filter your search will just be in that notebook.

image.png.ea38c3107edfe6c80b0b7405c7753e85.png

 

3 hours ago, artlieberman said:

Plus this error:  Cannot delete a notebook!!!

The easiest way to delete a notebook is to use the three dots menu in the main notebooks window which you get to by clicking the notebook icon in the sidebar. This gives you a number of options including deleting the notebook. 

1614120386_ScreenShot10-24-20at06_39AM.JPG.21f8494b663e188684177b7fd4b795d3.JPG

Link to post
  • 0

No language can describe my utter disappointment with a company SO F'ING POORLY RUN that they would put out software like this.  ALL C-level officers should immediately resign.  You are obviously incompetent.  This is a disaster of your own making.  PUT 6.25.1.9091 UP somewhere official where we can download and install the F*ING WORKING VERSION OF THIS SOFTWARE, YOU JACKASSES!  

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
12 minutes ago, Brian Stoner said:

No language can describe my utter disappointment with a company SO F'ING POORLY RUN that they would put out software like this.  ALL C-level officers should immediately resign.  You are obviously incompetent.  This is a disaster of your own making.  PUT 6.25.1.9091 UP somewhere official where we can download and install the F*ING WORKING VERSION OF THIS SOFTWARE, YOU JACKASSES!  

You can find 6.25.1 on filehippo.com. 

Link to post
  • 0

I have read through most of the notes from this thread.   One thing which I agree with completely is the reality that the Evernote team handled this transition very poorly and most of all they released to production version the BETA that was NOWHERE NEAR finished and ready for replacing the 6.25 Legacy version.   I have gone back to the Legacy version and am waiting hopefully for the Evernote team to fix all these problems listed below.

For me the central deficiency is the inability to edit the Create Date and Time, which is crucial for me in how I use Evernote.   I use it for both business and personal applications and cannot imagine having to migrate to another platform.   I have looked at the alternatives, and the truth is that none are as good as the Evernote Legacy Platform.   By far, Evernote is better and more reliable in its Legacy version.

I agree wholeheartedly with the justification of the Evernote team to embark on this project.  But whoever took the BONEHEAD decision to move from Beta to Production Version 10 out to be at the least demoted, if not outright fired.   With the number of reliable, faithful users you have, how could you have failed so miserably to handle this transition more successfully?  We need Version 10, but not the one you have given us.   Go back to the planning / drawing board and figure out how to bring Version 10 up to speed with the Legacy version and then improve it.  We do not want to lose any critical features from the Legacy version.

So it's in your hands, Evernote Team.   And Evernote management, take hold of this project and assure us that the responsible party for managing this transition does better than he or she has done so far in releasing version 10 before it's ready.  We are depending on you to save the platform and not to diminish it in the name of simplification of the platform.

  • Like 4
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5
1 hour ago, Brian Stoner said:

No language can describe my utter disappointment with a company SO F'ING POORLY RUN that they would put out software like this.  ALL C-level officers should immediately resign.  You are obviously incompetent.  This is a disaster of your own making.  PUT 6.25.1.9091 UP somewhere official where we can download and install the F*ING WORKING VERSION OF THIS SOFTWARE, YOU JACKASSES!  

These are primarily user-to-user forums, so you are only swearing at other people who are (mostly) also disappointed. Honestly, no offense, but it's kind of like the guy at the sports bar who curses out the manager and the star players and the team ownership while glaring at his fellow disappointed fans. Since you have a Premium subscription, you have the privilege of swearing directly at Evernote support. They at least get paid to read it.

  • Haha 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5

I am sure he will get 3 automatic proposals first to deal with his ticket.

Like „Bang you head against a wall“, „Join a bunch of zen monks to find your inner light“ or „Participate in the ice bucket challenge“. Maybe I should start to use insulting language in my Support tickets as well. The 3 proposals I get are always pretty dull stuff.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
  • 0
  • Level 5*
5 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

I am sure he will get 3 automatic proposals first to deal with his ticket.

Send the log file would be first.

Link to post
  • 0

Wow, I never thought one could make Evernote even crappier than it was before this new version. But you should never underestimate this team's talent. Bravo, guys! Bravo...

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

Hello, sorry if I mention points that have already been mentioned. And excuse my English, I'm not a native speaker.
I'm also speechless about this good-looking pile of junk Evernote presented us with version 10. I also installed the legacy version directly. The user interface may be a bit more fancy and slimmer than before, but I don't get much out of it, when for me basic functions of my (previous) favorite productivity machine are suddenly missing! I'm really very surprised how they can think that nobody would miss these features:

1. no more possibility to "pin" the favorite notes in the top bar for quick access - this disturbs my workflow enormously!
2. in the old version I recently made the effort to give the titles of my notebooks in the notebook list different colors, which made the whole thing much clearer. Now the colors simply disappeared!
3. personally, I found the separate field for the titles of the notes very handy - especially because now the formatting of the titles is also dictated.
4. no more adding notebooks via context menu. Why?
5. waste of space when displaying the notebook list by a field for changing the account, which is probably unnecessary for more than 90 percent of the users
6. no more own settings menu to make user-defined adjustments
7. apparently no more searching inside of notebooks? Only global search or search within notes?
8. it is claimed that the new version runs more smoothly, but the opposite is true for me: When I switch to another note, it often hangs!
9. without the Syncbutton I can't decide anymore when to synced! What is this?

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
23 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

These are primarily user-to-user forums, so you are only swearing at other people who are (mostly) also disappointed. Honestly, no offense, but it's kind of like the guy at the sports bar who curses out the manager and the star players and the team ownership while glaring at his fellow disappointed fans. Since you have a Premium subscription, you have the privilege of swearing directly at Evernote support. They at least get paid to read it.

In every ticket I have recently sent to EvN support many links to forum were included. Moreover, I got answers referencing those discussions. So they read them 😉

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0

No point in complaining or threatening but I want TO HEAR WHAT EVERNOTE HAS TO SAY about this. Are you moving forward with V 10 or cutting your losses?

My subscription expires soon. I created a trouble ticket to inquire but you’d think they would just come forward and let everyone know what their plans are.

  • Like 1
Link to post
  • 0
28 minutes ago, Colleen O said:

No point in complaining or threatening but I want TO HEAR WHAT EVERNOTE HAS TO SAY about this. Are you moving forward with V 10 or cutting your losses?

My subscription expires soon. I created a trouble ticket to inquire but you’d think they would just come forward and let everyone know what their plans are.

Hi. I've been an Evernote user/customer since October 2010. 10 years. I cancelled my subscription today. At some point, you just stop letting a software provider treat you like trash.I suggest everyone do the same.

  • Like 4
Link to post
  • 0
13 minutes ago, MaratR said:

Hi. I've been an Evernote user/customer since October 2010. 10 years. I cancelled my subscription today. At some point, you just stop letting a software provider treat you like trash.I suggest everyone do the same.

July 2012 for me but my renewal is November. I still have the EN notebook. Back then, you got 3 months free when you bought it. I remember giving a couple notebooks as gifts so friends could try EN.

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0

I've been an Evernote user back to the first beta in 2008 (user ~2400 - according to an email from Evernote).

Following the fiasco which is the latest release - I've been looking around for alternatives to Evernote - Nimbus and Notion being my current testing choices.

Funnily enough though, the best alternative I've found so far is Evernote Legacy. I cannot believe how the development and release process has been handled so badly for a mature product with millions of users. Relying on Evernote Legacy is not an option though - given there is absolutely no commitment to keeping it running - or no cut-off date specified.

Having participated in the v10 beta, my impression was that the opinions and suggestions from the beta testers were largely ignored. The only time significant attention was paid to us was when a feature didn't work as the Evernote team had already decided they wanted it. Then it would be actioned. Otherwise - crickets. Pushing out a 'live' release like this is just incomprehensible to me (having worked in SW development for 20+ years). At best, it could have been a public beta - but I don't even think it's ready for that yet.

So - I'm hanging on until my current subscription expires (or the legacy version stops working) and will re-evaluate then. However, based on what's happened recently, I don't have a lot of hope for improvement.

 

 

  • Like 5
Link to post
  • 0
51 minutes ago, FrankC said:

I've been an Evernote user back to the first beta in 2008 (user ~2400 - according to an email from Evernote).

Following the fiasco which is the latest release - I've been looking around for alternatives to Evernote - Nimbus and Notion being my current testing choices.

Funnily enough though, the best alternative I've found so far is Evernote Legacy. I cannot believe how the development and release process has been handled so badly for a mature product with millions of users. Relying on Evernote Legacy is not an option though - given there is absolutely no commitment to keeping it running - or no cut-off date specified.

Having participated in the v10 beta, my impression was that the opinions and suggestions from the beta testers were largely ignored. The only time significant attention was paid to us was when a feature didn't work as the Evernote team had already decided they wanted it. Then it would be actioned. Otherwise - crickets. Pushing out a 'live' release like this is just incomprehensible to me (having worked in SW development for 20+ years). At best, it could have been a public beta - but I don't even think it's ready for that yet.

So - I'm hanging on until my current subscription expires (or the legacy version stops working) and will re-evaluate then. However, based on what's happened recently, I don't have a lot of hope for improvement.

 

 

It's funny you say that. For me, too, Evernote Legacy is the best alternative I've found to Evernote 10.0. I have my fingers crossed that Evernote 10 becomes as capable as Evernote Legacy. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
  • 0
17 hours ago, MaratR said:

Hi. I've been an Evernote user/customer since October 2010. 10 years. I cancelled my subscription today. At some point, you just stop letting a software provider treat you like trash.I suggest everyone do the same.

Done. Requested a refund as well

  • Like 2
Link to post
  • 0

And it's this kind of response -

 

"...being considered..." - that's making me so nervous now. The Top View feature, one of so many, which was just culled, may or may not return.

This lack of certainty is not good enough. For those interested, Joplin has now overtaken Obsidian. But switching to Markdown is still an uncomfortable prospect.

Link to post