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Ugh! Looks like I picked up the new UI in 10.76. First noticed that I was only seeing 6 notes in the list in snippet view with EN in full screen (1080p). Then I noticed the unfeasible amount of wasted space on the notes. Open a note in a new window and 1/3 of the screen is taken up with title bars and metadata before the actual note text starts. And the note background in dark mode is pure black with no contrast with the surrounding. Horrible. 🤮 Not only does it look terrible, it's really bad for productivity. Who signed off on this? I work for a digital consultancy. We have a lot of good UR/UX people on software projects and there's no way Evernote did proper user research. If Bending Spoons want to email me, I'm sure we can help them out! 😂

Thanks, I've updated to 10.72 from the download page and it seems to be fixed.

OK great. How/when do I get it? #

Nope not fixed on 10.71.2 which Check for Updates reports as the latest version.

For anyone else with this issue, my ticket number is 3814369. It might be worth quoting this as another instance of the same issue.

Just tried it on my Macbook Air, 10.71.2 version and was able to reproduce it. It does seem either intermittent or depends on a permutation of conditions. It updated the edited date on a note from 21 Apr 2022 but not on one from 5 Apr 2022. This was in a search list, it doesn't seem to have the issue on a regular list of notebook or stack contents.

Logged a ticket for what good it's likely to do...

This bug is "doing my head in" Today I was searching for notes of a meeting I had last summer, but wasn't sure when. It was mid June but at the time I thought it could have been any time from May to September. I searched on a keyword and started browsing the list. Every note I clicked on suddenly got a new updated date of today and promptly disappeared from view screen, as there were several hundred in the list they would have shot to the top but I'd scrolled halfway down. Very disruptive and disconcerting. Now of course if I'm doing a similar search in the future, I can't just search through the rough date range of last updated, because a bunch are now incorrectly showing as Last edited on 16 Jan 2024 and will be near the top of the list. This does not happen on a list view for notes within a notebook or stack, but it does happen for search results. I read the link posted above: So it would seem this on-demand process of conversion is tripping the updated field. But that does not explain why it doesn't happen when viewing notes within a notebook. My concern is this is going to keep happening and every note that pre-dates this Real Time Editing change (about 5k in my case) is at some point going to have its metadata screwed up. Bye bye history. Of course now since v6 I can't manually fix those notes as in their infinite wisdom Evernote have removed the ability to do so. This really strengthens my resolve to jump ship. I already did so, to Joplin, cancelling my sub earlier this year, to beat the price rises. I only came back because Joplin doesn't allow multiple note windows to be open and doesn't have a choice of view in the note list (only showing title), and as I kept getting 40% off offers on the free tier nag screens.

As has been mentioned several times before, the ability to edit updated date existed in prior versions for many years. At least since I started using it in 2012. It was in v5, v6 and Legacy. I was using the feature until Legacy got canned So it's not some weird off the wall idea, it's a feature that was in the product, heavily used and deemed important by those that use it. Then was removed in v10 without explanation and no explanation why it's not going to return.

@Mike P Yes the metadata update issue is a dependency for the ability to edit the date. The editability may be a design choice (a poor one IMHO), but the metadata update issue is either a bug itself or an unforeseen consequence of an ill thought out change.

I don't agree, it was a feature offered for years up to and including Legacy and it's a valid use case used by a lot of their customers that I think Evernote have dropped the ball on. They removed it in v10; either consciously removed it from the feature list, or as v10 was a ground-up rearchitecting they neglected to include in the feature list. The bit I've highlighted is another issue; a behaviour that they have changed in v10. Changing metadata like tags and notebook should not update the "Updated Date" which should apply just to note content. I think the fact changes to metadata started to effect a change in update date only since v10 has driven more people to try to edit the updated date.

Depending on the database used there should be an internal, immutable creation date and maybe a last modified one too but that isn't the point. The main point for a notes app is it implements a flexible filing system that users can tweak to their own needs. If you had a card filing system and you reviewed a note for a meeting last month and corrected an error, you wouldn't then file it back with today's notes. In an ideal world I'd want to know when it was actually created and last modified, when it was last viewed and one or more significant custom dates, all viewable, searchable and orderable in the list. I'd settle for how it used to be, an immutable creation date and an editable updated date.

I've raised this as a ticket for what good it will do. 3 years after v10 it's still not fixed.

I've also opened a ticket on this. When v10 came out it was missing, together with the ability to edit Created Date, so I went straight back to Legacy. 3 years on, although created date has been made editable, updated date has not. If anything the opposite would make more sense, but many of the functionality decisions on v10 don't make sense to me. As to should this metadata be editable, ideally there would be user editable metadata and non-user editable metadate such as ActualCreatedDate and ActualUpdatedDate. I also prefix notes such as meeting notes or journal entries with a yyyy-mm-dd stamp so whatever happens to the metadata at least I can order in the actual chronological order.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. It wasn't a case of doing "my research for me" but as you'd obviously read many such posts I thought you might be able to quickly link one. In any case I think I misinterpreted your post slightly. I took "The reasons why the updated cannot be manually changed have been discussed many times in other threads" to mean there was a definitive answer from Evernote which has been stated and discussed many times, but what seems you meant is the fact that it cannot be changed has been discussed many times. The rest I've seen so far is speculation. And that leads me to another point I realise that you and the other prolific posters are just users and not employees but it would be reasonable for someone coming onto a forum hosted on evernote.com to believe that posters tagged as Evernote Expert complete with the green Evernote logo might actually be speaking for the company, would it not? This just raises the question why Evernote spokespeople are not posting on here. They don't seem very present and I have to say this doesn't give a great impression of prioritising customer satisfaction.