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  1. Not much to add except a suggestion to be cautious about jumping from one app to another, reading too much into the news or numbers of forum posts, and playing the waiting game. In particular, though, a comment on the waiting game: if the app isn't worth it for you now (I have my own frustrations with bugs and limitations, some of them mentioned in this thread already), and the good doesn't balance out the bad, I'd recommend leaving. Make do with what we have and don't give too much thought about what could be--there's a lot of could-have-beens and should-have-beens, but there's stuff to get done right now :)
  2. Evernote's limitations, especially when it comes to handling sensitive / confidential information, have forced me to come up with lots of irritating workarounds. I generally have DEVONthink (Mac only) for sensitive / confidential items and Evernote for everything else. I do my best with what we have and try not to think too much about what it could be. It's worked for me, more or less, for over a decade now. On paper, if I were mapping out my workflows, there are all kinds of other options that seem appealing. But, for one reason or another, I end up (as mentioned above) "mainly" using Evernote. Bugs in other apps, slow syncing, lost data, incompatibilities, poor search options, lack of portability (proprietary formats that lock you in or, even worse, mangle your content), and conventional folder/file hierarchies are some of the main culprits. I've also tried to simplify, and cut costs. I've made some headway. I am now down to just a handful of subscription services (Evernote is one of them) that make it possible for me to do a lot more work at a much higher level in a lot less time. I could work without them, but I wouldn't want to. I certainly wouldn't have time to post on this forum if I didn't use these services! OneNote is a very, very poor fit for my workflow. I tried it when it first saw the light of day, I've tried it again and again over the years, but there is always something (usually a combination of many somethings) that make it a miserable experience for me. I'm sure it is wonderful for other workflows and better minds than mine.
  3. Hi. If I understand your problem correctly, the two-device limit and your employer's restrictions are making it difficult to use Evernote, and you don't see a need for it. Indeed, if you are unwilling or unable to pay for the premium service, and your employer is preventing you from making full use of it anyhow, then you can either: (1) use Evernote on your computer with work-related documents in an offline Evernote notebook or (2) pay for Evernote and just keep your work-related documents on your computer at work It may be that you don't need Evernote. Personally, I find it to be a useful app. I particularly enjoy the ease of input, editing, and file organization (I do very little organizing, because the combination of robust search options, tags, and handwriting recognition make it possible to get by with very little organization). I don't mind paying for an app I use every day. Your mileage may vary. In fact, after COVID-19, I've found myself relying even more heavily on Evernote. I have to go into my workplace to work (I am in a region with minimal restrictions), I have to do work at home (we had more serious restrictions up until a few days ago), and I need to do child care while somehow doing work. Work has seeped into everything--it was always a problem, I guess, but now it seems inseparable from everything else. I enjoy my work, but... yeah, I am kind of looking forward to at least making an attempt at separating my private and personal life. I think we are all being asked to wear multiple hats at the same time these days, and Evernote makes it easy for me to go from device to device working on projects in tiny chunks appropriate to the limited time I have to focus on projects. Even if I am suddenly interrupted and have to rush off to do this or that, my work is right there in my pocket ready to be resumed when I have a moment. In other words, it seems to me that Evernote is uniquely well-suited to our new post-pandemic lifestyle, assuming you are willing / able to pay for it, and you can work around the limitations (my list of Evernote's shortcomings in the context of my work flow has been posted repeatedly here over the last decade, so I won't belabor those points).
  4. From 2008 to 2017 Evernote ran its own servers, but in 2017 it moved all of the data onto Google’s server. There was some doom and gloom talk back then, and crossed fingers, but here we are three years later with a situation that almost certainly makes it possible for Evernote to deal more effectively with the demands imposed by a pandemic. In 2010, for example, bad hardware(?) caused some data loss—no worries about having to fiddle with the hardware anymore. I don’t remember my comments from the time, but I was likely against the move from a security and independence perspective. If they hadn’t made the move, we’d be in a bind now, so it’s a good thing they didn’t listen to me. I guess, much like the 2017 move, things go on in the background with little obvious impact on us, but the service seems on a firmer footing nowadays.
  5. I can't speak for anyone else's experiences, but in my experience the search works fine. In fact, I hope that it brings in new users who might be unwilling or uninterested in learning the advanced search grammar. Good idea. But, I'd like to be able to turn it off. I think I mentioned my own pet peeves about predictive searches about a decade ago (!?), when the predictive searches began. They slow things down AND they display a bunch of detailed information about me and my account that I might not want to show to a class of 100 students when I am giving a lecture using Evernote. For anyone who gives presentations, this predictive feature can become quite a headache. As usual, I am happy to have this and other features as the standard default. But, I want to be able to turn things off. As for crossing my fingers, I've been doing that for about 12 years now, because I love the app, but don't always love the things that happen to it or the company. From my perspective, though, slowly rolling out changes is far better than the old style of an update a day (slightly exaggerated), often with insufficient testing or warning (especially about missing or de-stabilized features). In a way, the lack of updates is reassuring. In fact, I hadn't noticed any "lack." The behind the scenes videos have disappeared. True. But, the world is in the midst of a horrific and perhaps world altering pandemic. So, I don't have any particular expectations for a return to normal. I'd prefer a return to a new normal, with plenty of social distancing and care taken of its employees. If they have to slow stuff down a bit to transition to a telework-style environment, no problem. In fact, one thing I am now happy about is the movement of the servers out of their location. If they had to take care of those and deal with the pandemic, I'm sure they'd be having a really tough time. By not having to worry about that, perhaps they have ended up with a more flexible and safer work environment. A win-win for everyone.
  6. Thanks for the correction. Indeed, there wouldn't be much point in encryption if everything got indexed and saved to a non encrypted location. At this point, Evernote obviously isn't set up to do this, but that's the result of design decisions rather than technical limitations. Again, I'm fine if that's what they want to do, because it is their app to design, but ideally I'd like to see them adopt this suggestion and introduce a new feature such as an encrypted notebook or full database encryption (end to end). Zero knowledge, in my opinion, is something that has become increasingly standard in the industry. Five years ago (Snowden leaks) Evernote didn't seem like an outlier when it resisted implementing more robust encryption, but they've stood still while Apple and others have passed them by (at least, in this respect). That doesn't seem like a very good business strategy, and it certainly isn't responding well to the needs of some users (like me), who need encryption for work files. Yes, we can use a different app to encrypt each of thousands of files one at a time and then put them in Evernote, but that isn't exactly "user friendly" or feasible. It's far easier to just switch to a competitor and get work done––something I hope Evernote will think about now that it has new leadership.
  7. Yep. It might end up being like their bullet lists, if done poorly. But, if done well, we woukdn’t even know it’s there. I can’t read their minds, but judging by years of interactions, it seems to me that EN staff know it “can” be done, but aren’t doing it. It’s a choice, and one for them to make, but their competitors are choosing a different route. Apple? Seemless note-level encryption with the touch of a button. If there’s any complaining out there, I’ve yet to hear it. OneNote? It apparently has encryption for sections of some kind. I don’t use it, so I can’t say for sure, but it seems OK.At any rate, it’s there. DevonThink (OSX and iOS)? Turn it on once (like FileVault) and it is seamless encryption for the entire database — you never have to think about it again, and it is searchable, etc. I OCR stuff in it all the time. If there are any complaints about the encryption, I haven’t heard them. Bear, VoodooPad, Saferoom (app for Evernote), etc. So many other folks have this problem solved. In EN, we’re still stuck with blocks of text.
  8. LOL. It’s tough to call the drivel I produce knowledge, so maybe I’m at zero as well.
  9. Other apps have zero-knowledge full encryption and nothing is broken—search works fine (the index is generated by your device and the data is kept locally just like Evernote does for offline use, except that unlike Evernote, the content is never shared unencrypted with any home base on the cloud). Of course, Evernote couldn’t do things exactly the same way by just plugging in the new feature and turning it on. To get the OCR, it’d have to be done locally on our devices, for example, or we’d have to waive our encryption (perhaps with a zero-knowledge encryption feature just for designated notebooks). It would, in other words, require some imagination, but I think it is more a lack of will / interest than a technical issue at this point. If other apps have had fully encrypted databases for years now, some of them created by individual developers, then I think a team of a few hundred folks at Evernote can handle it, IF they wanted to do it. They don’t. They’ve said as much in the past, even though there were hints at some point about “sexy” encryption. So, here we are.
  10. I think ot was nice for the CEO to post. He’s surely busy, and I appreciate him taking the time to share his thoughts. I generally think it’s helpful to separate Evernote’s promises (the features it promotes and offers) from user requests (the features we think it shoukd have). In other words, differentiating the Evernote that “is” from the Evernote that some people (few features are going to get universal agreement) thinkbit “ought” to be. In this case, I interpret the CEO as recognizing that Evernote hasn’t been living up to the standards it has set—it promises certain things, but isn’t delivering, so he wants to take care of that. Personally, I think this ought to be done in days, not weeks. Additional security features and other “new” stuff is fine and all, but I’m in no hurry to see them break stuff rushing to churn it out—the all-too-common problen with past releases. I think slowly and steadily building new functionality into it while rigorously testing each release is the way to go. My personal wish list begins and ends with zero-knowledge encryption of everything. Other apps have it. It can be done. It is being done. So, make it so. By the way, in answer to the queries above: Google and Evernote staff “can” look at anything they want, though they say they don’t do it except in limited circumstances. I have nothing against staff at either company, but we shouldn’t be required to “trust” strangers, and no one should have the power/burden of access to so much personal information—Google staff (in violation of internal rules, of course) have been caught snooping in the past, so... zero knowledge please.
  11. I agree with jefito. It’d be difficult not to get behind a goal of improving existing stuff. Best of luck to Evernote and its new CEO in 2019. For those of us that have been here since the beginning—over a decade now—it’d be really exciting to see the app finally fulfill its potential.
  12. Update: sluggishness plus notes that cannot load. Also, spontaneous reproduction of notes (reported months ago as well -- it could be iOS or OSX, I guess, but I can report that it is at least still a problem somewhere).
  13. I don't know the specifics of the user's problem, but it sounds similar to what I have been seeing on iOS as well, with some notes simply not loading. Eventually, I sometimes get the not-so-helpful message that Evernote was unable to load the note. I don't know if it is related to the devices or not, but I can at least confirm that this has happened several times today on my iPhone. The exact same note appears just fine on my iPad and Mac. It appears to be a bug, and not user error. Perhaps it is related to the sluggishness of the app in the most recent update. Or, maybe I've just been hit by a tachyon burst or something from the main deflector dish at EN HQ. Whatever it is, it quite literally makes the app unusable, so I hope this will be addressed in future updates.
  14. Hi. 8.17 here. Thanks for the update. For the next build, could you speed up the time to start a note? 5-10 seconds is just too long to wait. Maybe it is OK for others, but it just doesn’t fit my workflow. It seems to me like speed is kind of Evernote’s thing — after all, what is the point of building a slow productivity app? Please reconsider whatever decisions led you to accept slowness as OK. If this is a bug, and unintentional, how did it make it into the public release? Please look at the QA process for the app. Until the next update it’s unusable in my workflow (again, others may have more patience, and I may be an edge case here) and the web version doesn’t work on mobile (several years now since this very helpful mobile web client was abandoned), so I’m paying for an icon on my screen... Also, images added to notes from the camera roll don’t always go where they are supposed to (the end of a note instead of the selected location).
  15. Please see the thread announcing an ongoing attack / attempt to access accounts using passwords obtained from some other service.
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