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  1. Regarding the original question, it is really difficult to find a good note-taking app (however one defines it), and few of my favorites have survived well over time--all too many are abandonware or buggy now, with only a few remaining in any usable state. The more complicated apps have their share of complicated problems. I imagine Evernote is one of the most challenging of all the apps (at least on the back end), because it has to reliably sync for millions of users across multiple, constantly changing platforms (Android must be a truly harrowing developer experience). It looks simple from o
  2. Data loss and sync conflicts here. It's not rocket science, I think, because it has already been discussed ad nauseam. The thing is that Evernote has already developed some really detailed sync features in the past. It's all been done before, and they could have been building on their past successes little by little over the last decade + to develop an amazing app, but instead we have to go through this cycle of scrapping it all and restarting from scratch again (this "complete redesign" has been done before as well---2010, 2012, 2014, etc.). Yes, I know someone on the developer team would lik
  3. Hi. It seems to me that almost all of your posts on the Evernote forums are about how to leave Evernote. Ultimately, it is up to Evernote what to allow in their forums, but from one user to another, I’d like to ask you to stop posting about how to leave the app, because your point has already been made—there are other options out there. If you would like to use the other apps, we wish you the best of luck with them. The information you are posting seems genuinely helpful for other information workers, but please post about other apps in other forums. Thanks.
  4. I doubt there is anything nefarious going on here. Unfortunately, I don’t know the thread or posts we are discussing, but it should be noted that many of us users are automatically given administrative permissions, and posts are automatically promoted, so at least some of the behavior (moderation and promotion) may be attributable to something else. Staff are around and will moderate things according to the forum guidelines, but this is generally only tangentially related to any criticisms of the app. If you have criticism and post it according to the rules, it’ll be fine (in my experienc
  5. Hi. DEVONthink is a pretty impressive app. However, I think each of us has all kinds of workflow peculiarities, priorities, and so forth. There probably isn't a concise, satisfactory answer to your question. The best thing is probably to go to the DEVONthink forums, read up, and give it a spin. Personally, I've been using both apps side by side for over a decade now, so you may also find yourself in a situation where it isn't an either / or decision. Evernote's latest update and development direction has convinced me to greatly reduce the amount of time I spend in Evernote, but it seems u
  6. I am sorry to hear about the poor experience that danio72 had. It is an Apple only product, which enables it to take full advantage of the OS to offer all kinds of wonderful features that Evernote will probably never have. On the other hand, Evernote is quite rare to be platform agnostic. I think that DEVONthink's sync is finicky at times (perhaps because it relies on iCloud or Dropbox to sync through the cloud), and I have tried to minimize my reliance on mobile apps with it, so if you are heavily invested in working through a mobile app, you'll want to experiment a lot with your workflo
  7. I can’t predict the future, but if past performance is any indication of future success, then Devonthink ought to be fine, because it has been around a lot longer than Evernote (as an app since at least 2004 (2002 for the company)). As for data portability, it is probably the most robust app on the market: if you “index” files, they are never actually put into the app, so there is no need to leave—you just stop using it if you want. If you “import” files, they are also quite easy to export. Amazingly well done, with smooth rollouts of updates (in my experience) and I don’t remember if it has l
  8. Hi. I don't know that the post can be made editable by anyone else. At least, not by me. Sorry.
  9. Hi. Evernote keeps a copy of your notes on your computer’s hard drive, so while it is true that ultimately the server version is the ”official” one, it is not the only one. Dropbox, iCloud, etc. work a similar way. If there is a problem, Evernote also records note histories (I assume this remains in v10), so you can revert to earlier versions of a note. Exporting as .html is one option, .enex is another. At least, those options used to exist, and will probably be added again. Competitors make some pretty slick import options (for the legacy app), so I’ve found it almost effortless to mov
  10. Hmm. Must be user error somewhere along the way. Weird. Perhaps renaming will help. Thanks for the advice.
  11. Thanks. I did completely get rid of version 10, as far as I can tell (after scouring my drive, searches for hidden files and so forth turned up nothing, so it should have been gone). Did I miss something? Maybe. That would be user error on my part. However, my conclusion to shift the bulk of my work elsewhere seems justified, given the circumstances, and Evernote's official stance that the legacy app is only available for a limited time, and they will probably not address any bugs (recommendations will be to upgrade).
  12. Good point. Thanks for stressing this. I think they are likely to have some sort of export, because they are talking about different formats, but when will that come? And, is only being able to select 50 notes at a time a feature or a "missing to be added later" element? I don't know, and I would recommend not waiting to find out. As always, it's good practice to keep daily backups (Time Machine on Mac) and to keep an exported version of your notes on hand (.enex and/or .html). But, as you said, the exports may not be possible for long, so tonight might be a good night to get it done.
  13. Quoting myself a couple of times to clarify what is happening. I "upgraded," found the experience of the current version 10 incompatible with my workflow, downgraded, and have now encountered an irritating bug in the "new" legacy version (7.4.1). Although the new version is disappointing (for me), I had been pleased to see that they kept a legacy version around in order to help us make the transition, but that was before I discovered the legacy app was going to impact my workflow as well. It's nothing critical, but given the circumstances, not really worth enduring, especially when other apps
  14. I'm not sure if this is user error or some cosmic event interfering, but printing a website page to save as a PDF in Evernote on the Mac (the way I have generally saved PDFs to Evernote for years now) stopped working when I downgraded to the legacy version (7.14.1 from the Evernote website). It goes through the process and looks OK, but when I go to view it in Evernote, even after forcing a sync (something we can no longer do in the new version), nothing appears. I can still accomplish this task on a different Mac computer that never got upgraded / downgraded (version 7.14 before the legacy re
  15. Thanks so much for this wonderful contribution to the community! It's nice to hear what the CEO thinks about the business. It's also good to know that it is inspiring and hopeful for other users. One of the nice things about using Evernote is that there is a massive user base, so they generally tend to get lots of input from folks about the app. The downside, though, is that I seem to have a very different workflow from them. Perhaps I am simply an edge case. I prefer to think that the problem is more that there are casual and beginning users who will not encounter a lot of the issues tha
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