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  1. Of course, everyone can respond as they would like, but my recommendation was not to invest such strong emotions into it. I found it helped to step back from it, consider it in relation to my use case, and uninstall it If I could have escaped from the iOS update as well, I would have, but we’re stuck with that. But, this pattern of rolling out an update before it is ready has happened before. We’ve both been around long enough to be wary. In my case, once it became clear that even if Evernote’s stated aspirations for the app matched the reality, it’d still be a terrible fit for me,
  2. EN and DEVONthink are unique, and difficult to compare to one another or other apps, so it’s probably best to think about it like this: look for something (or some combination of somethings) that solves your problems with the least amount of effort/stress/money. Compare the apps that way. The solution you choose will probably seem like it requires less effort, because it is working for you. I’d say DT has far more depth, but you can choose whether you want to dig into it or not—I think that within seconds you’ll have everything you need up and running (backups with TimeMachine, databases
  3. Search will work for any language combination, as far as I know, but OCR is only done for certain language combinations, and this is one reason why I OCR before putting things in Evernote. Of course, this raises the question: why use Evernote at all if feature X isn't working for you? The problem, as I see it, is that Evernote is probably designed really well for someone who is not me. Again, this isn't necessarily a criticism of Evernote. They have to make design decisions. However, their design decisions increasingly reflect a certain kind of workflow that doesn't fit me--multiple langu
  4. Hi. I am on Mac and iOS. I don’t hate the new Evernote (thread title), but they have removed support for features I used to use, features I rely on do not work as well, I have experienced numerous bugs, and nothing I see in the current directory of app development meets my needs or promises to improve my situation. That’s a grim assessment, I am afraid. This update may be a wonderful one for many users, but it hasn’t been for me. In particular, there is no opt-out for iOS. One day your workflow is just destroyed by a sub-par experience, and that is that. There is an opt-out for the Mac, b
  5. Regarding the original question, it is really difficult to find a good note-taking app (however one defines it), and few of my favorites have survived well over time--all too many are abandonware or buggy now, with only a few remaining in any usable state. The more complicated apps have their share of complicated problems. I imagine Evernote is one of the most challenging of all the apps (at least on the back end), because it has to reliably sync for millions of users across multiple, constantly changing platforms (Android must be a truly harrowing developer experience). It looks simple from o
  6. Data loss and sync conflicts here. It's not rocket science, I think, because it has already been discussed ad nauseam. The thing is that Evernote has already developed some really detailed sync features in the past. It's all been done before, and they could have been building on their past successes little by little over the last decade + to develop an amazing app, but instead we have to go through this cycle of scrapping it all and restarting from scratch again (this "complete redesign" has been done before as well---2010, 2012, 2014, etc.). Yes, I know someone on the developer team would lik
  7. Hi. It seems to me that almost all of your posts on the Evernote forums are about how to leave Evernote. Ultimately, it is up to Evernote what to allow in their forums, but from one user to another, I’d like to ask you to stop posting about how to leave the app, because your point has already been made—there are other options out there. If you would like to use the other apps, we wish you the best of luck with them. The information you are posting seems genuinely helpful for other information workers, but please post about other apps in other forums. Thanks.
  8. I doubt there is anything nefarious going on here. Unfortunately, I don’t know the thread or posts we are discussing, but it should be noted that many of us users are automatically given administrative permissions, and posts are automatically promoted, so at least some of the behavior (moderation and promotion) may be attributable to something else. Staff are around and will moderate things according to the forum guidelines, but this is generally only tangentially related to any criticisms of the app. If you have criticism and post it according to the rules, it’ll be fine (in my experienc
  9. Hi. DEVONthink is a pretty impressive app. However, I think each of us has all kinds of workflow peculiarities, priorities, and so forth. There probably isn't a concise, satisfactory answer to your question. The best thing is probably to go to the DEVONthink forums, read up, and give it a spin. Personally, I've been using both apps side by side for over a decade now, so you may also find yourself in a situation where it isn't an either / or decision. Evernote's latest update and development direction has convinced me to greatly reduce the amount of time I spend in Evernote, but it seems u
  10. I am sorry to hear about the poor experience that danio72 had. It is an Apple only product, which enables it to take full advantage of the OS to offer all kinds of wonderful features that Evernote will probably never have. On the other hand, Evernote is quite rare to be platform agnostic. I think that DEVONthink's sync is finicky at times (perhaps because it relies on iCloud or Dropbox to sync through the cloud), and I have tried to minimize my reliance on mobile apps with it, so if you are heavily invested in working through a mobile app, you'll want to experiment a lot with your workflo
  11. I can’t predict the future, but if past performance is any indication of future success, then Devonthink ought to be fine, because it has been around a lot longer than Evernote (as an app since at least 2004 (2002 for the company)). As for data portability, it is probably the most robust app on the market: if you “index” files, they are never actually put into the app, so there is no need to leave—you just stop using it if you want. If you “import” files, they are also quite easy to export. Amazingly well done, with smooth rollouts of updates (in my experience) and I don’t remember if it has l
  12. Hi. I don't know that the post can be made editable by anyone else. At least, not by me. Sorry.
  13. Hi. Evernote keeps a copy of your notes on your computer’s hard drive, so while it is true that ultimately the server version is the ”official” one, it is not the only one. Dropbox, iCloud, etc. work a similar way. If there is a problem, Evernote also records note histories (I assume this remains in v10), so you can revert to earlier versions of a note. Exporting as .html is one option, .enex is another. At least, those options used to exist, and will probably be added again. Competitors make some pretty slick import options (for the legacy app), so I’ve found it almost effortless to mov
  14. Hmm. Must be user error somewhere along the way. Weird. Perhaps renaming will help. Thanks for the advice.
  15. Thanks. I did completely get rid of version 10, as far as I can tell (after scouring my drive, searches for hidden files and so forth turned up nothing, so it should have been gone). Did I miss something? Maybe. That would be user error on my part. However, my conclusion to shift the bulk of my work elsewhere seems justified, given the circumstances, and Evernote's official stance that the legacy app is only available for a limited time, and they will probably not address any bugs (recommendations will be to upgrade).
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