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Control Which Image Shown in a Note's Thumbnail/Snippet View

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The largest smallest dimension?

Yeah. For example, if you have 3 images with the following dimensions:

75x100

100x400

200x300

The "smallest" dimensions are 75, 100, and 200, respectively. We're going to use the image with the largest of those "smallest" dimensions (i.e., 200).

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

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Hi All,

You may have noticed that all threads requesting the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet have been merged into this thread, regardless of platform specificity. 

This was done in order to better enable us to quantify and qualify user requests, and amplify their voice.

While this does not mean this is a feature that will be coming, we certainly want to relay user feedback/sentiment to our various teams.

Moving forward, please put all commentary and votes the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet here!

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This is one of my top requests. I think you can determine which image is shown according to the vertical size of the image (& maybe the horizontal size plays in too but the vertical size seems most important). But I hate attaching a huge vertical image just to keep my cover image as the one I want. I wish I could simply designate the image I want used for the cover image.

That would be really great.

Thanks, Evernote. You're awesome.

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Even something simple like consistently displaying the first image in the note would work MILES better than the current system. It's one of my most-hated features of Evernote, the seemingly random thumbnail selection. It's like the developers took time in considering the question "How can we best frustrate our userbase?"

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This is the feature request that I've been crying out for. When you have dozens of notes in a notebook, having the RIGHT thumbnail image is super helpful in quickly identifying the note of interest. I know I can tag and search notes in multiple ways, and I do, but what if the most memorable identifier of a particular note is an image! 

Countless times, I am scanning the notes by looking at thumbnail images only. Having the WRONG image is not only an inconvenience, it actually throws me off and makes me keep looking for the note I am after. Why on earth doe

Show that the message has been editeds my research note on McDonald’s have an image of a Starbucks cafe as a thumbnail (only because it appears further down in the article and EN’s algorithm decides that it’s the more relevant image)? I have a separate note on Starbucks and Lord knows what image EN decides to use for that note…

Come on Evernote! After so many years, please can we get some love for the more visual users! Give your paying customers the ability to choose the thumbnail image, like so:

Right click on image >> Set as thumbnail image.

 

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Hello,

 

CHOOSING the picture that is used as a thumbnail is what we all ask.

Of course there are a lot of work arounds from the moment you understand the algorithm of Evernote.

Someone automated the keystrokes that are necessary to resize.

Such a keystroke-automation with parameter fields exists in every operating system, I think.

But resizing is not what we want, we want to CHOOSE.

 

Why?

 

When I add pictures in a note, I have chosen the resolution that I find to be convenient.

A photograph from someone in a low resolution, a graph in high resolution (or vise versa).

They are added in the note to fulfill also a certain lay-out.

I do not want to change the size of these pictures to force them to be the thumbnail! 

And if I did, and I add a new picture, will all be changed???

 

NO, WE ASK TO CHOOSE THE THUMBNAIL, not to change sizes.

That's adapting our work to a program that has a fault in its design, in stead of adapting the program to make our work easier and more intelligent.

 

 

Luk

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Has anyone actually ever seen a response from Evernote regarding this??

 

Seems a little disrespectful of a company who's paying customers repeatedly ask for a feature  - and for years, to be completely ignored. If there's a reason why they can't do it or if they do plan to do it in some sort of near future, why can't they at least respond?

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On 11/18/2016 at 1:18 PM, offringa said:

I would like to see following additions:

- Option to switch between 'automatic' (based on algorithm) en 'manual'

- Option 'set as thumbnail' for the image within the note

I fully second that! 

It's such a basic feature, it's amazing that it still isn't there after so many years.

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I used Evernote food before they shut down the service. I then painstakingly edited my notes so that the thumbnail I wanted was the "largest smallest" but now iOS version 8 messes up everything again. Why not let us choose which image WE want ? The left picture is iOS version 8. The 2 on the right are iOS version 7.17. 

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Seems stupid to leave selecting which picture appears as thumbnail in OUR notes, up to some dopey algorithm.

What about leaving it up to the person CREATING, USING, and PAYING FOR the notes???  Hmmm, now that would be fair and rational. 

WHAT NOTE IS THIS.jpg

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This is a popular idea... 4 different requests... come on, Evernote!

 

 

 

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Hi @RightPaddock,

 

Yes and no. It has to do with the "largest smallest" dimension, explained here:

 

https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/18482-choosing-a-thumbnail/

 

Yes...

 

... until Evernote provides a way to manually select the desired image. Who know, it may be just around the corner :-)

 

Hi Frank - thanks for that, even though it is bit whacko - through no fault of thine though ;)

 

Note To EN Developers

 

Please add the ability to override with right click->Use this image as snippet thumbnail

IMO a more sensible default would be to use the first image in the note as the snippet thumbnail.   

 

The current algorithm is based on data that is obviously available to the SOFTWARE but that same data - the size of the images in a list - it is not readily available into the OWNER of the data.

 

Added 1 : The note where I noticed this issue has two images - one that I'll call the identifying image, it's 780x1200px, the other one is an infographic, which is 920x2600px.  So I could upsize the identifying image, or downsize the infographic - and lose image quality on the image I resize!  

 

Added 2 : Also clip  this ==>> http://www.gamengadgets.com/10-features-windows-7-95-users-dont-know  And then have a look at snippet thumbnail, and then find the image that the algorithm decided 'best represented' the note

 

 

RP

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I completely agree with @SashaS and many of the rest of you. My thoughts exactly.

Such a useful and obvious feature, as to almost be assumed:

Right click image in note
"Set image as Snippet"

Right click note in list
"Remove Snippet"

EN -- this is the kind of thing that drives users crazy. Let's make this happen. 

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I would LOVE to see this as an added feature.  As so many have said it seems ridiculous that the algorithm selects the image and not the user.  Additionally, does anyone know why when I delete all the images of a note, Evernote still shows a thumbnail?

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On 2017/10/1 at 3:53 AM, Pyrefox said:

Please let us select the thumbnail picture shown in the note previews.

I read the forum and I saw there is an annoying work around, but that's why I'm requesting this feature for real. Something like:

• right click the image and select "Use this as Preview image" (I believe this should be the easiest to implement)

• right click the note preview and select "Pick a thumbnail" that leads to a small selection of the images available inside that note

• right click the image and set a priority that overrides the current priority

 

These are just ideas, but any of those would be amazing so we have decent control over the thumbnail pic!

Over 6 years.

 

 

 

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On 1/4/2019 at 4:52 PM, kspratt said:

It would be much simpler to be able to right click on the graphic in a note and have an option there to designate that graphic as the image that shows in the thumbnail view.

A much-requested feature. Please go here and add your upvote: 

 

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I agree, the more we can customize EN the more useful it is to us. As a genealogist it is vital to my research to be able to select the thumbnail photo for my notes! 

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1 hour ago, Joe Loves Watercolors said:

Evernote just needs to show the top image or let us select the image that will show

There is a request posted at the top of the discussion.  
You can indicate your support using the voting buttons at the top left corner of the discussion,1154852445_ScreenShot2019-03-12at13_13_06.png.eded211b6316cf6b158df7ff018c89ab.png

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This is my biggest frustration with Evernote.

I often want to have a thumbnail act as a reminder of the content of the Note to trigger my recognition of the Note while in the application AND to help me remember mentally. In the Note I might want to have other images - screen clips of graphs etc... So Evernote then uses that as the thumbnail and defeats me. Personal Brain is a nice example of a tool that allows you to pick your own thumbnail while attaching documents and images with arbitrary detail. 

By the way, I also don't like that Evernote Android shows an iconised loudspeaker if the Note contains an audio clip rather than a thumbnail of any image that is embedded. Then you have a ton of indistinguishable snippets. Again, I'd rather have control over the icon.

 

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I mean guys is this like... Serious?? 😂🤣😳 I just came back after a ~1 year hiatus and this still not implemented? What PC or advertising agenda would we hurt lol?? It's requested since years on. What's happening? 

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On 5/7/2018 at 8:44 AM, SparkWerx said:

Frankly, I think it's rather pathetic that Evernote has failed to provide this simple capability in 7+ years.

Agreed, and +1

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On 4/27/2018 at 7:20 PM, Joe Loves Watercolors said:

DOES IT REALLY TAKE MORE THAN 5 YEARS TO LISTEN TO YOUR USERS?

Their value is DIVERSION not LISTEN TO USERS.  No listening to the users wants to make them happier with the product.

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This is the one feature I am still waiting on.  I stopped using Evernote for homeschooling, though I keep looking at it periodically.

 

But as a recipe book Evernote would be ideal.  Unfortunately the thumbnail snippet needs to be the image I choose.  Otherwise it doesn’t do any good.

 

Why are we still waiting on this feature?

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The lack of this feature is very frustrating. It's obvious that users want to decide for themselves which image is displayed as a thumbnail. I have so many cases in my notebooks where a completely unsuitable motif appears in front. How long do we have to wait and complain, Evernote, how long?

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I'll give this a simple +1

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6 hours ago, Martin Braun said:

How long do we have to wait and complain, Evernote, how long?

Just did a quick survery of users.  Sorry .... the majority are unwilling to pay and fund development

How about yourself.  Do you vote to pay? 

At least indicate your support for the request using the vote button at the top left corner of the discussion

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Long time paying user (I think 6ish years now?), and I've got to say, the manner in which Evernote handles users is slowly wearing down my patience. I've come to accept and deal with a laundry list of problems with the service since I understand how hard it can be to integrate complex features or change heavy structure. Plus, I really do like the general design of EN, and use it daily for both professional and personal projects. 

 

But changing the thumbnail? This seriously can't be accomplished in more than 5 years of requests? Plus the fact that I almost never see any actual EN staff members responding directly to their users. I wouldn't even mind if they straight up asked for cash donations to add features, so long as the users had some more say in what was added. 

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On 9/14/2018 at 4:38 PM, Shane D. said:

Hi All,

You may have noticed that all threads requesting the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet have been merged into this thread, regardless of platform specificity. 

This was done in order to better enable us to quantify and qualify user requests, and amplify their voice.

While this does not mean this is a feature that will be coming, we certainly want to relay user feedback/sentiment to our various teams.

Moving forward, please put all commentary and votes the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet here!

I'm not programmer but I don't think adding that option would be that difficult. Itis actually the one reason I signed up for this forum!

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This is my biggest frustration with Evernote - it seems like it would enhance the app a tremendous amount. Please consider this.

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+1. Every month I come back to this topic to see if an update has has been made. Is there any public roadmap for evernote? Thanks.

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16 minutes ago, Paulosabib said:

Is there any public roadmap for evernote?

There is not.

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On 9/14/2018 at 9:38 PM, Shane D. said:

Hi All,

You may have noticed that all threads requesting the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet have been merged into this thread, regardless of platform specificity. 

This was done in order to better enable us to quantify and qualify user requests, and amplify their voice.

While this does not mean this is a feature that will be coming, we certainly want to relay user feedback/sentiment to our various teams.

Moving forward, please put all commentary and votes the ability to manually set a note's thumbnail/snippet here!

Finally, I found a topic that express exactly what I'm looking for since so many years...

I still don't understand how it works, the thumbnail image seems to be chosen randomly (and it's never the image I would want)

 

Please evernote, it's so obvious I wonder how it's not still implemented

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I literally only signed up to the board to second this feature. 

I really love Evernote! I am a premium user and I use it every single day. 

Has the feature not been implemented, yet? 😔

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How is this not fixed yet?  I'm getting so frustrated with all the new useless features they keep releasing while this is something that is still not resolved.  It's a very simple request that will make the app WAY better for many ways it is used.  I use it primarily to catalog patterns (as do a lot of other sewists) and I include all images associated with the pattern in the one note, but I want the main pattern image to be the one I see as the thumbnail so I can easily locate a design I want without needing to just remember what it looks like based on the name.  A lot of people in the sewing community are starting to move over to another note taking app based simply on the fact that it lets you choose your thumbnail photo.  I canceled my subscription I've had for over 4 years today.  The team has a few months to win back my business before my annual prepaid time is up, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Has the thumbnail option been updated so that we can choose the preview thumbnail yet?

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There is no option to select the thumbnail image, and no update

To indicate your support for his feature, use the vote button at the top left corner of the discussion

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How long will I have to continue staring at photos of my ex-boyfriend in many notes? It's hurting me so bad, it makes me not want to use Evernote. It can't be a difficult feature to install. I just want to have my own control of what pictures show up in the thumbnail. Even if I delete the photos, they still come back up in the thumbnail. it's like he's haunting me, please... 

 

 

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+1, this is a feature which would be highly appreciated.
If we can't select the thumbnail, then it's best to just disable the feature.

I use evernote extensively for cooking and keep track of the evolution of my bonsai trees.
The thumbnail HAS to be a picture of the tree/the dish, otherwise there is no point.
How can I recognize which tree this note is about if evernote pick as thumbnail the receipt of the tree I bought, or a random picture of an inspiration "model" ?

I went for the Premium account, hoping for cool features like this one.
I'm kind of disappointed to be honest to see such an on going discussion and no progress in several years.

Was the development of evernote stopped ?

Regards,

Y.

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Hello dear developers,

I´m sure that many Evernote users haven't reached this forum page yet but i assure you that if this feature is released it would be a big reason to love Evernote even more.

Thank you for making such an amazing application.

Cheers !

 

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This is my first time posting in this forum. I 100% agree this feature is key. Evernote is all about organizing our ideas into an easily searchable and referenceable layout. If there is a reason to put a picture or multiple pictures in a particular note it stands to reason that there is some visual component to the note or series of notes. Regardless of all the other bells and whistles, being able to visually organize those notes only makes sense. I also know that for this particular set of notes the visually scan and reference them based on the thumbnail would be incredibly  helpful.

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Another newbie to the forum here, although I have been using Evernote for a few years now (and do pay for it with a Premium account). 

It is very frustrating not to be able to change the thumbnail to the image most appropriate to the note, particularly when using it to inventory my craft supplies. 

It would vastly improve my Evernote experience if the ability to change the thumbnail was implemented. 

 

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New user here and to Evernote......spent hours trying to get one image to sit above another in iOS, have tried everything suggested in here, resized images, renamed files , changed pixel resolution, but still comes out random in my opinion (or maybe one image has more blue in it than another so takes precedence!!!)

It can't be rocket science to have a featured image, or thumbnail

+1

 

 

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Please please please, get on this!! I am a potter and I use Evernote to document every stage of the process. It does me no good for the thumbnail to show me a ball of clay rather than my finished product. Please change it so we can choose which picture to make the thumbnail!!!

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What is the status of this feature development?

 

Ref: 

 

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15 minutes ago, schematic said:

What is the status of this feature development?

I merged your post with the primary request discussion for this feature

There has not been any interest indicated by Evernote

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It seems to be a feature that has been requested since almost 10 years, and still no solution? 

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I put in my vote.  I've wanted this feature since I started using Evernote in 2013.   Great product!  But I've spent way too much of my time tricking the system to get the desired result.

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Put my vote in, I'd like to see this happen; right click to change snippet would be nice, or first image would work though less ideal.  I've been an Evernote user since 2008, premium four months later (wow, 12 years)!  This is the first time I've found a feature that's lacking or missing.

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It would be really great to have this feature. I wonder why it's not there yet?

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Putting in my vote for being able to select which image shows up in the snippet! Would be super helpful for sure.

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I add my support to adding this feature.  

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Years are passing.

Random pictures are being previewed.

God bless Evernote!

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Dear Evernote - this is clearly a big yet simple but overwhelming request from a lot of your users - to simply be able to select the thumbnail/snippet image for each notebook by our choice.  Just deal with it as it's been over 9 bloody years since the first request back in 2011.  Failing to do so, at least give us a lame technical reason of why you guys managed to fail your users for 9 years and we'll all shut the fxxk up, would'ya?!  

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The problem is that Evernote does not have any real competition, at least not that I could find. If there was another similar app that would seamlessly allow you to import all your Evernotes then you'd probably see them care a little more about what users want.

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30 minutes ago, techlectics said:

The problem is that Evernote does not have any real competition, at least not that I could find.

You're kidding, right? Evernote has tons of competitors. A web search on "alternatives to evernote" makes them pretty easy to find. Some of them do allow import of Evernote content (though I was less than impressed at what OneNote did to my notes when I tried it several years back),

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Come on, Evernote team, just add a 'use as a thumbnail' item to the context menu which you already have on a file click. Add like a couple of lines overriding a selection algorithm. If for some reason you dynamically assign the thumbnail to the note when it is displayed then add one stupid "If" crutch which would check whether a specific pic was selected, even in this case you'll have one more field for the file id or whatever, wouldn't overload your note class too much, so please, implement finally what looks like a 30 minute junior dev task. With hope, yours faithful for like 7 years user. 

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23 hours ago, Gleb Kilichenko said:

Come on, Evernote team, just add a 'use as a thumbnail' item to the context menu which you already have on a file click. Add like a couple of lines overriding a selection algorithm. If for some reason you dynamically assign the thumbnail to the note when it is displayed then add one stupid "If" crutch which would check whether a specific pic was selected, even in this case you'll have one more field for the file id or whatever, wouldn't overload your note class too much, so please, implement finally what looks like a 30 minute junior dev task. With hope, yours faithful for like 7 years user. 

Gleb, this is never going to happen.  Evernote is too tone deaf to get it. I used to be a Premium subscriber, but got so frustrated by Evernote's stupidity that I started using MS OneNote.  My prediction is that Evernote will go out of business before they change.

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On 2/24/2015 at 1:06 PM, Natalie said:

Has anyone actually ever seen a response from Evernote regarding this??

 

Seems a little disrespectful of a company who's paying customers repeatedly ask for a feature  - and for years, to be completely ignored. If there's a reason why they can't do it or if they do plan to do it in some sort of near future, why can't they at least respond?

they just send me to this forum which doesn't solve my issue....I have 2300 notes, really hate to have to move it all to another platform!

 

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I also agree that this will be a useful feature. I might put several images into a note, but I only want to use a specific one as a "cover". This image helps me to better see if the result is relevant for me and to let me bind the note content to a visual element. This has a big impact for binding and summarizing the content of the note.

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I added my vote, but wanted to also add another post to this thread. Just another user frustrated by the continued lack of this feature.

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Posted (edited)

I'm back in this thread after another 2 years cos this is still bothering me enough to log in to the forum, and…

Notion is fantastic! I've adopted it an an organisational level at both my jobs... regular releases, good release notes, real people replying with intelligent replies if I have a question not covered in their excellent documentation.

Will get around to migrating my personal notes sooner or later… ciao Evernote!

On 3/10/2020 at 2:11 PM, DTLow said:

There has not been any interest indicated by Evernote

(this is why)

Edited by ptim
pure frustration

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No.

Thank you for your prompt reply. Does it mean the only way to force an image to appear as thumbnail is to make sure that it is the heaviest one within the note?

Thanks

Marcelo

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Thank you for your prompt reply. Does it mean the only way to force an image to appear as thumbnail is to make sure that it is the heaviest one within the note?

You're welcome. I don't know how EN selects the thumbnail.

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I don't know how EN selects the thumbnail.

We select the image with the largest smallest dimension. There are some other rules, but that's the main one.

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We select the image with the largest smallest dimension. There are some other rules, but that's the main one.

The largest smallest dimension?

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The largest smallest dimension?

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OK, got it. I think anything else would have too many words, and "largest smallest" probably works because it's short and easy to remember (and apparently self-contradictory). Cool.

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Yeah. For example, if you have 3 images with the following dimensions:

75x100

100x400

200x300

The "smallest" dimensions are 75, 100, and 200, respectively. We're going to use the image with the largest of those "smallest" dimensions (i.e., 200).

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

Thanks for the explanation. I guess if someone really wanted to promote a specific image, they could use a photo editor to re-size the photos. That's too much work for me.

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The largest smallest dimension?

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

You learn something every day. :)

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Yeah. For example, if you have 3 images with the following dimensions:

75x100

100x400

200x300

The "smallest" dimensions are 75, 100, and 200, respectively. We're going to use the image with the largest of those "smallest" dimensions (i.e., 200).

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

One way to express this in a more definitive way is the image with the largest width, assuming that your example you gave is in the order of width x height.

However, it is not clear that this is actually what you mean.

For example, what if we add an image that is 250x150?

Then the list would be:

75x100

100x400

200x300

250x150

Does that mean that EN would now select the last image (250x150) for the thumbnail?

Well, I'm going out of the business of making suggestions, but as one of the last, does it make sense to anyone at Evernote to choose the first image in the Note for the thumbnail?

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An alternative is the image with the largest number of pixels. This is a good predictor of importance of the image to the note's content.

e.g.

75x100=7500

100x400=40000

200x300=60000

250x150=37500

Largest -> 200x300=60000

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One way to express this in a more definitive way is the image with the largest width, assuming that your example you gave is in the order of width x height.

My list is ordered by increasing size of smallest dimension. We don't want to pick the image with the largest width, since that would result in us selecting things like graphical horizontal lines (e.g., 600x1) for some notes, which isn't very useful.

For example, what if we add an image that is 250x150?

Then the list would be:

75x100

100x400

200x300

250x150

Does that mean that EN would now select the last image (250x150) for the thumbnail?

No, we choose the image with the largest smallest dimension. To keep my list sorted by increasing size of smallest dimension, your new entry should be third:

75x100

100x400

150x250

200x300

So we're going to pick the last one again (200x300), because it's still the image with the "largest smallest" dimension.

does it make sense to anyone at Evernote to choose the first image in the Note for the thumbnail?

It does make sense sometimes, but it doesn't make sense a significant number of times too. Some part of the algorithm needs to factor in the dimensions and/or sizes of the images or else you end up with non-useful thumbnails (see 600x1 example above).

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An alternative is the image with the largest number of pixels. This is a good predictor of importance of the image to the note's content.

e.g.

75x100=7500

100x400=40000

200x300=60000

250x150=37500

Largest -> 200x300=60000

Yeah, that's probably another good algorithm (and note that in this specific case, that is the image we choose). I think we're reasonably happy with the algorithm we're using; they're all subject to false positives, unfortunately, but I think our algorithm ends up choosing a fairly representative image a lot of the time.

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Well, it does have the advantage of being easier to explain. Which usually results in a more likely to be correct implementation.

The best, and most likely, implementation of either algorithm would pick the first "largest" in the event of a tie.

My guess is that in most cases (>90%) either algorithm would pick the same image for the thumbnail.

Hmmm.

Not sure which algorithm is more likely to pick the squarer image. Squarer usually results in a more recognizable thumbnail. Probably a toss up.

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Well, it does have the advantage of being easier to explain. Which usually results in a more likely to be correct implementation.

Hmmm, bubble sort is easy to explain, and it's not hard to get a correct implementation of a bubble sort, but so what? Implementation is not usually the problem, it's choice of algorithm, and bubble sort is of course notoriously poor for anything but the most trivial uses.

The best, and most likely, implementation of either algorithm would pick the first "largest" in the event of a tie.

My guess is that in most cases (>90%) either algorithm would pick the same image for the thumbnail.

Hmmm.

Not sure which algorithm is more likely to pick the squarer image. Squarer usually results in a more recognizable thumbnail. Probably a toss up.

I think you're right -- there are probably fail cases in any algorithm that will be used to pick a thumbnail candidate out of a collection of images. I think that making a good guess is fine, but the best case for users would probably be to allow them to designate which image to use if the guess is not the one that they want.

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bubble sort
:lol:

Nah. This is a single pass scan. No sorting. Just compares.

And, bubble sort, can NOT be fully described in a single, non-compound, sentence.

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Ummm. Re-read your comment. Never mind my comment about single pass. You were using it as an general example, not a specific example. :?

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Right -- just trying to illustrate that things that are easy to describe may not be the best choice. :lol:

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Sometimes I have multiple images in a post, and evernote seems to pretty randomly choose which one to use as a thumbnail. Is there any way to pick which one it is? Sometimes the photo chosen is no help at all, so I would like to be able to change it, either by selecting which one or being able to determine what position to put the one I want in (i.e. first or last) so it gets picked.

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Can someone tell me why evernote doesn't have this ability yet? This seems incredibly near-sighted.

I read on someone else's post that evernote uses an algorithm to choose the thumbnail image depending on what the largest image is, it uses that one as the thumbnail.

I want the algorithm to conform to ME, not the other way around.

:)

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I don't know why but I'm sure it's much easier to have a standard system on the servers that does this rather than implement this feature across all the platforms EN lives on. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is. (shrug)

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But it doesn't seem like that because I can go in and edit my notes to my heart's content. So if I can edit my notes as much as I'd like, I feel like that would be even more difficult to accompany than the ability to change the note's thumbnail. It seems silly that I can have all of this customization to my note, but NOT the thumbnail image. It would be much easier to have a standard system on the servers that doesn't let you edit your note at all. Less coding to be flexible with the whims of its users.

So since this is NOT the case, it seems strange that the ability to edit the thumbnail of the note is not available, while I can edit my note to any degree I wish (something arguably more complex to account for than changing a thumbnail).

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How do you assign a specific thumbnail to a note?

I have many images in many notes. When there is more than one image, EN does not always take the topmost (first) image as the note's thumbnail image. In addition, even if you "trick" EN to use a given image as the thumbnail by creating the note with only one image initially then adding others after the thumbnail has been generated, EN will sometimes reassign the thumbnail image to one of the subsequent images within the note.

This is frustrating when these thumbnails are instrumental in quickly identifying notes, but there seems to be no predictable way to control them.

Perhaps this should be a field in the note header area where you "Click to set thumbnail image" would work.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve & Angela

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Here is a link to a discussion on this issue. There is no easy solution if you have several photos in one note. I guess if someone really wanted to promote a specific image, they could use a photo editor to re-size the photo to create the "largest smallest dimension".

That's too much work for me.

http://discussion.ev...dpost__p__92194

Evernote explanation:

We select the image with the largest smallest dimension. There are some other rules, but that's the main one.

Examples:

75x100

100x400

200x300

The "smallest" dimensions are 75, 100, and 200, respectively. We're going to use the image with the largest of those "smallest" dimensions (i.e., 200).

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

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The largest smallest dimension?

Yeah. For example, if you have 3 images with the following dimensions:

75x100

100x400

200x300

The "smallest" dimensions are 75, 100, and 200, respectively. We're going to use the image with the largest of those "smallest" dimensions (i.e., 200).

There are probably better ways to describe that algorithm, but that's how we've been describing it internally.

with all due respect, what you really mean is the "largest smaller" dimension. :D

for the word "smallest" to apply, you'd have to be comparing at least 3 items -- or, in this case, dimensions (such as the 3 sides of a triangle, or 3 or more of anything, really). but images are two-dimensional; they have only height and width. therefore, neither dimension is the "smallest" of the two; it's the smaller of the two. :)

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The way the system works now is completely non-intuitive. A larger image does not mean a better representation of what the note is about. I could make a strong argument that the first image in the note (above a certain size threshold) would be the most representative of the note. For example, I took a clipping of a product page. I want to capture the primary product but also the "related products". However, the images of the related products happen to be larger than the primary product so now I have a note about one product with images for a different one shown as the thumbnail. I have similar frustration for other scenarios as well. I agree, the image for the thumbnail on the note should be user-selectable. It's fine to have a default, but I should be able to override it if I wish. Right-click the image --> Set as thumbnail. Simple. Even if that is a desktop-only feature, that's fine. The product already has certain features that only exist in certain implementations of the product, so that's nothing new.

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@Gimpster: Please read the discussions jbenson2 posted, it is *not* the largest image that is used. On the other hand, overriding the system-selected image used would be a nice improvement. It's not clear to me that that's something that is transferred with the note; it may be determined on-the-fly by the client (I haven't been able to figure it out by looking at an exported .ENEX file yet), though I suppose it's also possible that that's determined by a call to the server, too.

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I wasn't searching to find out whether or not changing the thumbnail was possible, I was searching to find out how to go about changing the thumbnail. I guess that's what you get when you make assumptions! :)

I hope this will be implemented at some point soon. As Gimpster pointed out, a desktop-only option would be fine (similar to changing the added and modified dates).

As it stands now, your notes can really end up with some odd and completely illogical thumbnails!

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As it stands now, your notes can really end up with some odd and completely illogical thumbnails!

Most of my thumbnails are so illogical that I pretty much just ignore them in the Snippet view.

It would be very cool to right-click on the Snippet View Note, and select "Choose Thumbnail".

EN could present a selection of images in thumbnail size for the user to pick from.

It would seem that EN has all of the data it needs to do this in a small popup window, since the Note images are all files which EN knows for each Note.

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One of the ways I use Evernote is to store photographs (JPEGs) with notes on how I've processed them and a copies of the picture as processed by the camera (JPEG) and the original file (RAW format) . So, typically there will be three images in the post, interspersed with text:

Edited JPEG

Camera JPEG

RAW file (this is not displayed in the note, as you need specialist software to interpret RAW files, so it is just a file attachment)

I like to have the edited photo first, so you can see it straight away and then scroll down to see my notes.

I also share some of these notes in a shared notebook with fellow hobbyists, so these comments also relate to the Web version of Evernote.

In Windows.

Evernote seems to choose the last JPEG you add to a note as the thumbnail and this is invariably the camera JPEG, which doesn't look as nice.

In Web.

Evernote doesn't display a thumbnail in the snippet at all, although it does if there are only JPEGs in the note. I think it wants to make a thumbnail of the last image added to the note but it can't because it's a RAW file.

I would prefer Evernote in all cases to use the first image in the note.

Can anyone think of any way of achieving this?

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