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Quick question...

Thanks for the algorithm, but I have one request...

Why not at the very least provide an override feature?

That cant be to hard. Assuming that because an image has specific dimensions it is thus more important is great for auto selecting an image. Why not provide a Right-Click Option such as "Choose Tumbnail."

I'm working on a pattern library and a feature like this would be great, especially considering the fact that "In Action" or "Examples of Use" images/Screenshots are much larger than the typical dimensions of lets say a Combo Box, Text Input Field, Drop Down Menu, etc....

A "Choose Thumbnail" option would be AMAZING!

See attached file for example..

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I would also like the ability to choose the thumbnail for a note. As an example, I have photographed several recipes; one picture of the actual dish and one picture of the accompanying text (recipe). In most cases the thumbnail chosen is the 'wrong' one. I would like the thumbnail to be the picture of the dish itself not the recipe text.

I've also spotted what appears to be a bug. I have EN running on my Android phone and Windows 7. In one case the thumbnail on the PC is 'correct' (i.e. a picture of the dish) but it still shows a text thumbnail on my phone, despite syncing.

Please, please, please add the ability to choose the thumbnail.

Regards

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I too would also like the ability to choose the specific thumbnail for a note, or make it always use the first image in a multiple image note.

My use case is using a notebook for my wine cellar. I like to take a photo of the front of the bottle and another image as the back of the bottle. I'd like to be able to set the image of the front of the bottle as my thumbnail.

Thanks

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+1 for an override option. The current selection algorithm might be sufficient for many users, but its unpredictability makes the card view much less consistent and useful than it could be, especially when you actually need fine control over how your data is displayed.

When attaching similarly or equally sized images, the thumbnail selection appears to be random and at times unexpectedly changes when tags are added, titles or note data changed etc., further causing frustration.

Some additional issues I have encountered:

A note containing both PDFs and attachments (such as a .pages document) does not display the PDF as thumbnail (as expected), but the icon of the attached file:

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Even when the source image resolution seems sufficient, thumbnails often appear letterboxed:

post-115310-0-18452600-1355155393_thumb.

All of these issues add to the feeling of the card view feeling very clunky and almost buggy at the moment.

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whenever i come across this problem, i sign in using the web interface.

in web evernote, whichever image you upload first to the note will be the thumbnail assigned to the note. not the most convenient workaround but beats understanding the whole "largest smallest" algorithm and editing the photos for that. in fact, i didn't know one is expected to do all that just to assign a thumbnail to a note until today!

support a feature to pick our own thumbnail like the others. can't imagine that's more complicated than the existing algorithm?!

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Evernote you are awesome.... :wub:

But lets stop the talk about algorithm.... I don't care....But something I do care about, is the custom thumbnails.

Looking forward to this feature second quarter 2013. :ph34r:

hey 2vet ! thank you for the tip !!! :D

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I FULLY Agree, this should definitely be something we can choose from ourselves. WE know what we want as our thumbnail image and no algorithim in the world will ever beat that.

 

Seems like a pretty darn easy feature to program into Evernote.  Just right click and choose "Set as Thumbnail" if the one the algorithm isn't what you want.

 

 

Thank you in advance for adding this to the next release guys :-)

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Thank you in advance for adding this to the next release guys :-)

Seeing as how this is something that's been asked for for at least a couple of years (Forum search is handy), you may need to wait a few more releases...
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All is in the title  :)

It will be great to choose wich image in a note could be display in the thumbnail. Actually after grab an internet page with the webclipper, Sometimes it's the first image, sometime not...

Best,

JC ( sorry for bad english ... I'm a froggy frenchy )

 
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All is in the title  :)

It will be great to choose wich image in a note could be display in the thumbnail. Actually after grab an internet page with the webclipper, Sometimes it's the first image, sometime not...

Best,

JC ( sorry for bad english ... I'm a froggy frenchy )

 

 

Hi. Welcome to the forums! I have merged your thread with this one on the same topic. 

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I'm also TOTALLY frustrated by this limitation. I use the note cards as a visual database for collections and also for home inventory, and half the time the thumbnail image is not representative.

 

WE NEED THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE THUMBNAIL!!!! OR AT LEAST AN OPTION TO USE THE TOPMOST PICTURE IN THE NOTE (that would be simple to implement, right?? A whole lot simpler logic that the current convoluted and useless algorithm...).

 

As other posters have said, it is fine if this capability is confined to the desktop version.

 

I cannot understand how this thread has been going on for literally YEARS with no action.

 

Sorry for "shouting" but this is an elementary feature that is NEEDED in order to make Evernote useful.

 

Why is it not being addressed? Can someone at Evernote give a coherent reason why?

 

THANKS FOR LISTENING!

 

[Moderator: merged post with existing topic on choosing thumbnail]

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I can't believe all the arguments over semantics and algorithms,  when the need is clear, there needs to be a way to choose the "featured image" Wordpress can do it, a 1001 other app(lications) so why not Evernote?.

 

As a second choice you can use whatever selection you like, but Evernote, take note, the ability to select an image (if so wished) is clearly what I and many (most?) of your customers want, surely on that basis you should simply find a way to service this customer requirement (and soon) because giving your customers what they want is what your supposed to do?

 

No doubt someone will dispute my logic?

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Absolutely agree.  The current situation is a complete complex mess.  A simple method of choosing which image is displayed as the overall thumbnail image for the note would be extremely useful.  I'm surprised such a useful update hasn't yet been implemented.   

 

I can't believe all the arguments over semantics and algorithms,  when the need is clear, there needs to be a way to choose the "featured image" Wordpress can do it, a 1001 other app(lications) so why not Evernote?.

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Hi,

 

I'm new to the forums so pardon me if I'm not going about it in the right way....

 

I've been trying out Evernote over the past couple of months and in general I love it but there is one thing I find very frustrating: there appears to be no way to control which part of an image is used as the thumbnail. The result is that the thumbnails are off centre or the main detail of the image is half cut off. The bottom line is that I think it makes the thumbnails look fairly unprofessional (which is a real pity because most of the rest of the Evernote interface looks great). 

 

I'm not really a FaceBook user but I seem to remember when creating a FaceBook profile the program allowed you to choose which part of a larger image you wanted to crop use as you main profile image. I wonder why Evernote has not built in something like this?

 

There is another forum thread entitled "Choosing a Thumbnail" from a year or so ago where another user called JMichael mentions this topic in passing stating: "the thumbnail often crops the image in the middle, making it almost unrecognizable" but no one else picks up on the point and the discussion goes on to other things.... anyway to me it is a pretty glaring flaw so I thought I'd make a new topic and see if others agreed with me....

 

 

 

 
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So.... 

 

It seems like I can select a photo.... crop the image.... select which part of the image to use as my icon / thumbnail / avatar on these Evernote user forums....

 

but I can't select and image, crop it, and select which part of it to use as a thumbnail when I'm actually using Evernote itself...?

 

I wonder what the thinking is behind implementing the feature for the forums but not for the actual program? Seems like a strange ordering of priorities....

 
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Yeah. I figured something like that. My second post was really just a bit of a lame attempt at some humour.

I didn't really want it to deflect attention from my main point: I think Evernote would look more professional if you had control over which part of an image is used as the thumbnail. It would look more professional and that would make it more useful in a professional setting.

That's all. 95% or 98% of Evernote is fantastic IMO.... it just has a couple of annoying little quirks that keeps it from being perfect at least for what I'd like to use it for.

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I have just created a whole bunch of notes that are made up of photos of the front and back of all the plastic cards in my wallet (trying for a thinner wallet). Most notes are just two photos, one being the front and the other the back of a card.

 

When I look at all the notes in my notebook I find that some notes are using the first photo (front of card) as the thumbnail and other notes are using the second photo (back of card) as the thumbnail. How do I fix  it so the notes always use the first photo as the thumbnail? This will make it easier when searching for a specific card.

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I have just created a whole bunch of notes that are made up of photos of the front and back of all the plastic cards in my wallet (trying for a thinner wallet). Most notes are just two photos, one being the front and the other the back of a card.

 

When I look at all the notes in my notebook I find that some notes are using the first photo (front of card) as the thumbnail and other notes are using the second photo (back of card) as the thumbnail. How do I fix  it so the notes always use the first photo as the thumbnail? This will make it easier when searching for a specific card.

http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/18482-choosing-a-thumbnail/

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Thanks for super quick reply.

 

All I can say is "that's just weird". Would never have worked that one out. Glad I asked.

 

I have increased the size of the image I want as the thumbnail by a few pixels to force it to be the thumbnail.

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+1 for the option to select a primary/featured/thumbnail image. 

 

I'm sure much thought and research went into creating your algorithm, EverNote, and I appreciate that. It sounds like a wonderful way to select a default image when no other information about what's truly important to the user is present

 

But for a truly excellent user experience, allowing us to override the algorithm for individual notes by selecting the primary/featured/thumbnail image is crucial. 

 

An etic approach made sense before Evernote had a userbase; now that you have a substantial one, an emic approach is better suited. And the natives have spoken: being able to choose this image is important and will improve the experience.

 

I began using Evernote (quite recently) not only because I wanted a way to create visual notes (by adding images, drawings, etc), but because I wanted a way to visually scan my notes within notebooks to more easily find what I'm looking for and get a quick visual snapshot of the ideas/notes I have within notebooks. This puts great significance on the thumbnail image; often, however, the Evernote algorithm doesn't select the image I feel is most representative, making this tool less powerful and my experience more frustrating. 

 

Please consider adding an optional override now that you have this use user data to work with. 

 

Edited to add: If you are concerned about additional database resources being needed to make this change and the associated expense, why not make this a premium feature? 

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I've spent much time right clicking and hunting options to be able to tweak thumbnail choices.... then a search found this thread.

Largest smallest is fine when the user had no input, but the user should be able to override. It's a case of 'IF user selects AND override exists, use override ELSE use current code ENDIF'

Please can we have this tweak added to the right click menu?

(Similarly, a notebook thumbnail image in notebook view would be lovely)

(Using Mac desktop - main. iOS. Windows desktop)

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I'm a Premium user and have been using Evernote for over a year and love it. I'm using it for a number of different uses and research projects. 

 

(1) However I wish I could choose the image that appears in the thumbnail for each note. You can't even fake it out because Evernote doesn't consistently choose the same image -- seems to choose one at random. If it always used the last image posted, then you could just make sure the one you wanted was the last image posted even if you had to cut the image and then repost it. It doesn't take the image at the top of the page either. The thumbnails are important to me as they give me a visual guide. 

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I'm currently getting some notes that don't have ANY photo in the thumbnail (on iPad while looking at notes in a notebook) even though the very first item in the post is a picture...and there are multiple pictures in the note.

Any thoughts?

I *think* the items (recipes) in question were imported via an RSS reader but not sure why that would matter...?

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Look mate, what exactly is your problem...?

 

Every time I post something you turn up to slag off my idea or put me down personally.... why? What did I ever do to you?

 

You obviously seem to think you own the forum and no one is allowed to post unless they agree with you and "Burger-and-it-is-fine-if-I'm-rude-to-everyone-because-I-don't-get-paid-for-this".

 

Well good for you. Consider your "gatekeeping" a job well done, because I'll be -blanked- if I ever read or post on these forums again. Life is way to short to waste it talking to the likes of you.

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@<actus: Everyone is allowed to post, make suggestions, rant or praise or whatever, and it's very unlikely that you'd get censored in any way. But when you post, someone is liable to respond to you, and possibly disagree. Metrodon's last wasn't personal -- call it a reminder that it's really not necessary to bump your own posts (because when they get read by Evernote staff, "bumps" really don't add anything to the conversation); maybe you disagree, but was there some reason that you thought that bumping your own post was helpful to the forum? His point on the forum software vs. Evernote software was just informational; not sure whether you took that personally or not.

 

As for the original topic -- choice of thumbnail is something that's been requested elsewhere, as you know, and personally, I'd find it useful. Not sure that I'd need cropping but that's just me.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  1. Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  2. For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  3. When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.

I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  1. Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  2. For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  3. When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.

I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  1. Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  2. For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  3. When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.

I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  1. Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  2. For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  3. When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.

I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  • Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  • For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  • When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.
I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

Please stop cross posting.

WRT testing across all platforms...therein lies the rub. Additionally, it simply may not be high on EN's priority list.

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Without knowing the actual code base, the problems with rolling out a change to the ENML spec (must be understandable in all clients), and backward compatibility issues, among other things, all you can really attest to is that you think that this would be easy to add. And before the work even gets done, you'd need to assess what Evernote wants to spend its time doing, i.e., their priorities. For one way of thinking about adding features to an established code base, see Minus 100 Points. All of that being said: beng able to choose a thumbnail would be a nice feature to have. But is it nice enough?

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

  1. Add to the images context menu the option to "Set as thumbnail".
  2. For the selected image, add an attribute like thumbnail="true" in the Evernote markup.
  3. When displaying a thumbnail, first scan for an image with this attribute. If one is not found, use the current algorithm.

I think the only real hurdle will be testing in all platforms.

 

Many of us have notes clipped from the web with the first or last image usually being the best one for the note. Much of what I clip are tutorials or instructables with photos for each step and most of the time the auto thumbnail is incorrect.

 

It may be possible that to add some features would be "extremely easy" - but if you have a detailed action plan for the next few days weeks or months which consists of other 'easy' features,  this one is going to have to wait its turn.  You never know - it might be part of the next planned release...  but I wouldn't hold your breath.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

Please stop posting identical content to different topics. If you want to comment, then that's fine, but do it once, and then post links. For example, I responded to your identical post here: http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/29436-user-assigned-thumbnail-images/?p=203664

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

Please stop posting identical content to different topics. If you want to comment, then that's fine, but do it once, and then post links. For example, I responded to your identical post here: http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/29436-user-assigned-thumbnail-images/?p=203664

 

That would make even more sense if it was also practiced by Evangelists, say when responding to feature requests with the standard explanation that Evernote has their own priorities in which we have no insight.

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As a developer, I can attest that this would be an extremely easy feature to add. It could be done in three steps:

Please stop posting identical content to different topics. If you want to comment, then that's fine, but do it once, and then post links. For example, I responded to your identical post here: http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/29436-user-assigned-thumbnail-images/?p=203664

 

That would make even more sense if it was also practiced by Evangelists, say when responding to feature requests with the standard explanation that Evernote has their own priorities in which we have no insight.

If you wish to become an Evangelist yourself, and show us how to do a better job, you're more than welcome to sign up. As it is, some of us do a better job at linking than others, but sometimes a brief answer works just as well. In this case, though, the identical post was copied and pasted into at least four topics -- a bit of overkill in my book, and not very forum friendly, since that would cause any ensuing discussion to become fragmented. Or if you like, I could just merge all of those topics.

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Hello

 

@dlu:

Could you let us know, whether and if yes, when this feature is on the roadmap?

I'd also be interested what you, as an Evernote Employee, think about such a feature.

We've heard many users (especially in this thread: http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/18482-choosing-a-thumbnail/), who really appreciate to choose the thumbnail on their own.

 

Thanks,

Dominik

Evernote does not post their roadmap or ETAs.

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I am adding my +1 to this feature request.

 

For several years I did not care about thumbnails too much, but now that I am using Evernote for cooking, correct thumbnails have become essential.

 

I grab screenshots of recipes.  I take cell phone pics of the finished product.  Both go into an Evernote note.  Because I don't want to print two pages next time I make the recipe, I prefer to size the photo smaller than the recipe screenshot.  Unfortunately, EN's algorithm then pics a random area of the recipe text as my thumbnail....NOT useful at all.  

 

The "largest smallest dimension" algorithm mandates that in my case the only way to get the correct thumbnail is to have a HUGE food image in the note, since the recipe screenshot (taken from a Kindle ebook opened in the Amazon Cloud Reader) is required to be a certain size in order to read its text.

 

I am a Premium subscriber and love EN.  I'd love it even more if we can select the displayed thumbnail.

 

 

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Why isn't this a feature yet??? It's basic...

I urge you to take some time to peruse these forums for items that users think are "basic", count them up, and then reconsider your question... :)

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Hi, I have this problem too, because I have many collaged notes where the largest image is a screenshot or a photographed text. That defeats the assumption that the largest image is the most important picture. Anyway, the thumbnail doesn't have to be the most important picture at all - it should maybe be the most graphic, that still conveys information when shown as a small square.

 

I guess I can resize the author portrait or whatever to make it huge/ square.

 

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Oh, so frustrating. I just went through this myself. I'm trying to save a number of houses that we are interested in, and the address in the text and the image of the house are the most important parts. When saving the realtor listing and photos, I'll get all sorts of thumbnails from the realtors logos, pictures of a shed, a back yard, garage interior, or just about anything other then the front of the house. Fooling around with the images trying to get the right one to display is a useless exercise. Far too much work when other apps just let me select which image I feel best represents the content. If Evernote won't let us choose, and can't read our minds, please, just make the first image the thumbnail. At least then we can control it very easily. But delete, see what it selects, undo, try it again, and again, until it finally gets it, wow, what a disaster!

 

This is basic, very much needed, I can't believe Evernote is as mature as it is and still doesn't have some of the basics done.

 

Please, please, please, listen to your users on the basic stuff first, then introduce the more advanced stuff.

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+1 or ditto or "Me, too!" or whatever I need to say...

 

I'd love to be able to choose the thumbnail image for a note.  Whether the note has multiple images taken with my phone, or multiple random images because I clipped a whole webpage, the thumbnail chosen is almost never the one I want.  Which means the thumbnails are usually a distraction, not a help.  If I could choose them, they would be an enormous help.

 

Are any developers still reading this?  Or is there another avenue for making feature requests?  Google found me this thread.

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I'm adding my two cents to this one, too.  I would LOVE to be able to choose the thumbnail.  As it stands, Evernote almost never chooses the thumbnail I would choose.  Which means the thumbnails are a DISTRACTION to finding the note I want, not a HELP.

 

If I could choose the thumbnail, when needed, it would be a HUGE HELP.

 

(I'm also a Premium subscriber, if that matters.)

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+1 or ditto or "Me, too!" or whatever I need to say...

 

I'd love to be able to choose the thumbnail image for a note.  Whether the note has multiple images taken with my phone, or multiple random images because I clipped a whole webpage, the thumbnail chosen is almost never the one I want.  Which means the thumbnails are usually a distraction, not a help.  If I could choose them, they would be an enormous help.

 

Are any developers still reading this?  Or is there another avenue for making feature requests?  Google found me this thread.

The developers are well aware of this feature request, and all posts are read by Evernote staff.  The forums are a fine place to post feature requests; you can also open a support request, if you feel that you really need to.

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I've previously posted about this, and am glad to hear that developers are aware of the need to be able to choose thumbnails for a note.

 

In addition to this feature, another sorely needed one (unless I've missed it somehow) is the ability to TURN OFF OCR for photos!!! Most of my notes are photo-centric, as I use Evernote for an image database of large collections. Now when I search for a keyword, I get as many spurious results (where Evernote has somehow "found" the word in a tree or article of clothing...) as real ones. This is HUGELY impacting my ability to use the program, and if I weren't so invested already, I would switch to something else today. I may even switch anyway, if these two issues aren't fixed. They are really driving me crazy...

 

While it would be best to be able to turn off scanning for any particular image, we should at least be able to choose that only PDFs are OCR scanned, rather than JPEG photos, which rarely contain searchable text. Note that I'm not talking about metadata in JPEGs, which is fine to scan, but the actual image.

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This is HUGELY impacting my ability to use the program

 

I haven't used Evernote much lately. Why? Because these features are crucial to what I'm using evernote for and frankly if it cant show me the appropriate image, and allow me to choose both the thumbnail, or OCR settings for images, I have no time for this product. Sadly we're using a business account, so I'm holding out.

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I've previously posted about this, and am glad to hear that developers are aware of the need to be able to choose thumbnails for a note.

 

 This thread is almost two years old so although they are aware of it, that doesn't necessarily mean they will do anything about it.  It's a shame really as it's probably not a big deal to implement and would be a massive improvement on the current situation.

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This is HUGELY impacting my ability to use the program

 

I haven't used Evernote much lately. Why? Because these features are crucial to what I'm using evernote for and frankly if it cant show me the appropriate image, and allow me to choose both the thumbnail, or OCR settings for images, I have no time for this product. Sadly we're using a business account, so I'm holding out.

What OCR settings would you like? Are you talking about language settings? If so, you can change them.

http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=85

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Hi GrumpyMonkey. What we are looking for is the ability to turn OCR OFF for JPEG images, since most photos do not contain any usable text, yet Evernote "finds" words all over each image, then shows them in search results. For example, I just searched for the word "vera" in my database, and of the 22 resulting notes, fully 6 of them were spurious results where "vera" was found in a tree or something. I don't want to have to deal with all the random words Evernote finds in photos, and neither do the many other posters above. I want OCR for PDFs ONLY, or the ability to designate which images get OCR applied. Or just the ability to turn it off altogether.

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I have a similar problem like siamesekitten.

Although I (and I think also many other users) have images containing text that should be searchable/findable. For example snapshots of signs/documents/flipcharts.

I always prefer a solution, where a user can choose according to his preferences. Unfortunately this is more effort to implement.

A default setting could be OCR ON for PDFs and OCR OFF for images. Then the user could turn OCR ON for images, that should be searchable.

 

Is there a separate thread for this topic?

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The way the system works now is completely non-intuitive. A larger image does not mean a better representation of what the note is about. I could make a strong argument that the first image in the note (above a certain size threshold) would be the most representative of the note. For example, I took a clipping of a product page. I want to capture the primary product but also the "related products". However, the images of the related products happen to be larger than the primary product so now I have a note about one product with images for a different one shown as the thumbnail. I have similar frustration for other scenarios as well. I agree, the image for the thumbnail on the note should be user-selectable. It's fine to have a default, but I should be able to override it if I wish. Right-click the image --> Set as thumbnail. Simple. Even if that is a desktop-only feature, that's fine. The product already has certain features that only exist in certain implementations of the product, so that's nothing new.

 

No, no, NO - please don't encourage the devs to think it's ok for something to be desktop-only any more than they already do.   I hate how the emphasis is on the Windows client.  I use the Android and web interface clients almost exclusively - I go to my Windows machine only to scan, and I'm trying to find a way to avoid that.

 

Yes - choosing the thumbnail would be best, and having it be the first image in the note would be second best.  Choosing it in any other way sucks eggs beyond belief.

 

Also, if they're not going to let us see pdf file content inline in the web and android clients, then they really need to let us make the thumbnails big enough to read.

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I'm a software developer using Evernote very often.

 

However there is some missing basic feature:

When Evernote allows pictures in the Note and it also offers thumbnails of a picture, it absolutely _basic_ to select _which_ picture is shown as thumbnail.

 

The quote of BurgersNFries: "You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is." and of jefito answer to ThePixelated (analogously) "You dn't know what a basic feature is." are extremely impertinent.

 

When such a basic feature is missing, I expect an answer like: "Oh, you are rigtht. It will be implemenet it in one of the next release."

And what I expect also, that this would be implemented on every device.

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When such a basic feature is missing, I expect an answer like: "Oh, you are rigtht. It will be implemeneted in one of the next release."

And what I expect also, that this would be implemented on every device.

Neither BnF nor jefito work for Evernote. They can't say what Evernote is planning. And what Evernote says is "We don't make our roadmap public".

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I don't know what being a software dev has to do with this.  95% of people here have been, are or claim to be devs.  (shrug)
 

I'm a software developer using Evernote very often.

However there is some missing basic feature:
When Evernote allows pictures in the Note and it also offers thumbnails of a picture, it absolutely _basic_ to select _which_ picture is shown as thumbnail.

The quote of BurgersNFries: "You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is." and of jefito answer to ThePixelated (analogously) "You dn't know what a basic feature is." are extremely impertinent.

When such a basic feature is missing, I expect an answer like: "Oh, you are rigtht. It will be implemeneted in one of the next release."
And what I expect also, that this would be implemented on every device.


My comment? Impertinent? Perhaps. Accurate? Absolutely.

If this is Jeff's comment you're referring to...
 

 

Why isn't this a feature yet??? It's basic...



I urge you to take some time to peruse these forums for items that users think are "basic", count them up, and then reconsider your question... :)

 


It's also accurate.  What you consider to be a "basic" feature does not always coincide with what others consider a "basic" feature.   WRT the answer you "wanted"...:

 

  1. It may be surpassed by tasks of a higher priority
  2. it may not even be on EN's to do list
  3. EN does not publish their roadmap or ETAs

So yeah...you may not like it (does that sound better?) but that's the way it is.

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The quote of BurgersNFries: "You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is." and of jefito answer to ThePixelated (analogously) "You dn't know what a basic feature is." are extremely impertinent.

Please don't misquote me. What I said is -- analagously -- that if you read the forums for any length of time, you'd see that there are a lot of features around that different users regard as "basic". So, a) different people can differ over what they think is basic, and B) if Evernote were to set out to implement all of these "basic" features, they would probably need a long time to do it. I'm not really sure where the "impertinence" comes in.

For the record, neither BurgersNFries or I are "on the payroll"; we just see things differently than you do. You might pause to consider why that might be. Are we just mindless, robotic "fanbois/fangurlz", or maybe do we have some experience in the field that differs from yours?

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Ok. So it may not be a BASIC feature, probably a little more advanced programming-wise, but if you put several images into a note don't you think you should be able to set which image is displayed in window of all notes?

 

We that want this feature just need to let he Evernote devs know what we would like to see in this great app!

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We that want this feature just need to let the Evernote devs know what we would like to see in this great app!

Evernote staff reads these posts, even if they don't always respond.  :)

 

 

I'm sure they do. Would love to see this in Evernote. Would make things a little more convenient.

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+1 to adding the ability to choose custom thumbnail images.

 

What's the point of having visual cues for notes if they don't always properly represent the content you're trying to save? I understand that the "algorithm" may work for most people and that's great... but what would be even better would be a way to override with a custom thumbnail. Facebook lets you do this when you share links.

 

Some people work visually, some focus on text. But if the developers are trying to focus on useability and a visually expressive way to view notes (Card View), it would necessitate being able to have some control of the thumbnails provided.

 

Evernote is a great product... let's help make it even better! :D

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PLEASE PLEASE EVER NOTE FIX THIS

We want to choose ourselves, to be more organised and make EN more useful. The randomness is not working for my research at all.

It's a mess

I've probably recommended using EN to 50 people. Please respond at least

Besides this, amazing product

User in London

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I just started using Evernote (Premium) and too late, discovered that this photo thumbnail issue makes it somewhat useless for me. I want to add a photo of a sewing pattern cover (thumbnail), then a second photo of back of envelope with the details. Evernote is randomly selecting the details picture for the thumbnail. Pftt.

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I just started using Evernote (Premium) and too late, discovered that this photo thumbnail issue makes it somewhat useless for me. I want to add a photo of a sewing pattern cover (thumbnail), then a second photo of back of envelope with the details. Evernote is randomly selecting the details picture for the thumbnail. Pftt.

 

It's not random unless you take two photos of exactly the same size - if you crop one even slightly,  you should be able to force Evernote to choose your preferred picture.

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And this is why I prefer Springpad over Evernote.
Completely oblivious when it comes to having a visual UI.  Just now I was testing out both of the platforms.  I was trying to clip a page with a video in it. With Springpad,  I can select the image which represents the thumbnail of the video.  But with Evernote, it randomly chooses a thumbnail of a related video.

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And this is why I prefer Springpad over Evernote.

Completely oblivious when it comes to having a visual UI.  Just now I was testing out both of the platforms.  I was trying to clip a page with a video in it. With Springpad,  I can select the image which represents the thumbnail of the video.  But with Evernote, it randomly chooses a thumbnail of a related video.

 

It's great that Springpad works well for you.  OTOH, for some (like say, me) the features that EN has that Springpad does not far outweigh being able to select a thumbnail.  That's why there's chocolate & vanilla.

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Just want to add my voice to the chorus of "Please make it possible to override the default thumbnail". I came across this issue using the Google Chrome Web Clipper. I clipped a blog post including comments, and an image of a random commenter is used in the thumbnail and as the pin on the Atlas. I couldn't work out why, because it wasn't the most frequent commenter, or the author of the post (which would be what I'd like to set it to). I guess his avatar must have had the largest smallest dimension.

 

Please add an option to right-click an image within a note and make that the one used for the thumbnail!

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What I find sad is that I had a question that relates to the topic of this thread, ie how to set thumbnails as I choose. My question was directed to tech support, their answer was a link to this thread, which took ages to read through only to find, as you all seem to have found, that in this very important matter of storing information in the way we choose - Evernote is found wanting.

 

No other product support I know of would be so dismissive to a client or user of the product.

This is another example of Evernote boasting as often as it does about its product, while it clearly has a lot of growing to be done in order to be as usable and useful as it claims to be.

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Regarding the ability to choose the default image:  Springpad has it. Its simple, but it one feature that I love. So when I need quick notes I use evernote. When I need more formatting/packaging options, I use springpad.  Would love to see evernote adopt such things too. 

 

I'm not complaining though - I love that evernote has provided such a cool and useful tool.  THANK YOU!!

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The inability to be able to change a note thumbnail seems to this user to be pretty high on the radar of many of us. I recently upgraded to a premium account thinking that the extra $ might have gotten at least such a basic feature as this. Algorithm, Schmalgorithm, Evernote should start listening to its endusers. This thread had been around a very, very long time for having been ignored for so long. We who raise our voices on this forum have to be but a fraction of those who suffer with this abysmal inability to simply change a thumbnail image. For many of us and for how we use the program, the feature is crucial !

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I, also, would like to have the ability to choose the thumbnail for each note. The current algorithm is awesome in 95% of cases, and works great as a default, but my OCD (and apparently the same is true of dozens of other posters above, not to mention the hundreds (thousands?) who are bothered by this but don't post) gnaws at me when the algorithm sometimes chooses the wrong thumbnail. I'd even be fine with this "override thumbnail" feature being exclusive to the desktop version(s) of Evernote, instead of the web one. Just add SOME way to change it. Please! Thank you.

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I also would like an option for manually selecting the thumbnail!!

 

I use Evernote for inventory and it's should show the picture of the item; not the receipt or manual that I also scanned and added to the note.

 

PLEASE!

 

:) :) :)

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Funny story to read about "largest smallest dimensions". But why not simply let the user choose if he wants a certain, different picture to represent a certain note? In my case - and obviously many others, too - the algorithm almost perfectly finds and uses the wrong illustration. :)

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This feature has been ignored, and frankly I find it unacceptable. Evernote has failed to implement a feature which, from the looks of it, has enough demand to warrant implementation. 

 

We've since moved away from Evernote, and Evernote Business, and have sought after alternatives to this product. Evernote's lack of collaboration tools and features has left us with no choice. Clunky administration, usability failures, and lack of attention to user/client feedback, leaves us no choice but to leave this product and service behind.

 

As a business platform, it completely misses the mark.

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