Looking for Evernote Alternatives…. Suggestions? (CLARIFIED MY QUESTION)

[Sledr 0]

On 7/12/2023 at 1:00 PM, BASboy said:

JUST Updating the facts as so many responses have been not answering the question but being Defensive about my thinking of moving on from EN.

So I will state I do not take it lightly to be moving my whole system to another app. I Have been an EN User for well over 10 YRS and Paying PRO Prices to support them. I was a big fan of Phil's who started the company. And I was sticking with the company when he left and the internet was abuzz with 'EN Is Dying'.

SO, what seems to miss most responses is - My Current Notes now take 1+ minutes to open. I have written support and get tickets saying they will get back to me. BUT as of several weeks and several times contacting Evernote Support I keep not being answered and now all of Evernote Staff in the US appears to have been fire., I am beginning to suspect that Bending Spoons is run be a heartless AI with video projections of people. (People missed that this was Sarcasm... so let me now make it clearer #Sarcasm... there, now no misunderstandings, maybe)

So with No Support Response and my notes access problems getting worse, I am starting to look to alternatives that are close to Evernote. So far Nimubs Notes seems like a good Evernote Like Alternative. But open to other suggestions. Please list your app choices and the reason for your choice / maybe some of the functions the alternative app provides. Please DO NOT attack me because I am looking at other options. I realize there are Fanatics out there for so many things, including EN. So try to recognize that I am making this inquiry because I cannot get support and the app is not working properly. BUT if you choose to attack, then give actual FACTS with Links for why is so wrong with my choice and not just state Rumor or Speculation about Nimbus Notes if you Don't have Actual Experience with it. 

Please DO response if you have an actual alternative app suggestion and why. 

I figured there are others looking at possible alternatives and were still on the forums. SO I Thought I would ask Evenote Users that might have some two cents advice to give. 

NIMBUS NOTE PRODUCT OVERVIEW (Just listing some of what they do just like Evernote) 

• All-new note editor

• Groups, workspaces, folders, and subfolders

• Public links to share notes, documents, images, and videos

• Various collaboration features

• Document search and image recognition (OCR)

• Set colors to folders and notes

• Reminders

• Send emails to Nimbus Note

• Screenshot and screencast tools

• AND UNLIKE EVERNOTE... They let you do folders within folders within folders and let you color code the folders) 

OBSIDIAN ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!

- Tags are absolutely critical for me and Obsidian handles tags REALLY WELL - so much better than Evernote.

- Searches - Obsidian is SOOO FLEXIBLE with its search capabilities: Regular Expressions, Saved Searches or Bookmarks can be sorted in alphabetical order - WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOO HARD FOR EVERNOTE TO FIGURE OUT???  Or organized in folders and sub-folders in any order you wish.

- Templates - REAL TEMPLATES.  Programmable templates.  Evernote's templates don't include tags or headers.  There's no way to programmatically enter today's date in a header in Evernote????

- Foldable sections

- VERY CUSTOMIZABLE THEMES - that allow you to change the view, color and organization of your notes on your screen.

- CANVAS option that allows you organize multiple notes any way you like on your screen.

- It is open source.  So there are lots of improvements being made every month or every other month.  

- There are lots of developers world wide, who write plugins.  I have found the plugins to be very reliable.

- Even though this is open source software IT IS SOOOO MUCH MORE RELIABLE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH FROM EVERNOTE DEVELOPERS , THE PAST 3 YEARS!  

- Finally the data, folders and files are yours.  You don't have to wait 2 weeks for Evernote to finally find the last technician who can still figure out how to get you logged in again and give you access to your notes.

- I'm not big into nested folders but I know you can have them with Obsidian.  Obsidian's structure is totally based on the file system of the hardware you are using.  So you can nest folders anyway you want.  I have some nested folders.

The one negative is that the obsidian.md web page documentation is not great for a beginner.  So getting started can be disconcerting, at first.  But you quickly find lots of videos and outside contributors who do explain how everything works, very well.

Sending an email to Obsidian is NOT a native feature.  I do miss that.  There are various recommendations on how to add this capability to Obsidian but none of them are straightforward solutions.

 

[eric99 835]

4 hours ago, Sledr said:

OBSIDIAN ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!

- Tags are absolutely critical for me and Obsidian handles tags REALLY WELL - so much better than Evernote.

- Searches - Obsidian is SOOO FLEXIBLE with its search capabilities: Regular Expressions, Saved Searches or Bookmarks can be sorted in alphabetical order - WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOO HARD FOR EVERNOTE TO FIGURE OUT???  Or organized in folders and sub-folders in any order you wish.

- Templates - REAL TEMPLATES.  Programmable templates.  Evernote's templates don't include tags or headers.  There's no way to programmatically enter today's date in a header in Evernote????

- Foldable sections

- VERY CUSTOMIZABLE THEMES - that allow you to change the view, color and organization of your notes on your screen.

- CANVAS option that allows you organize multiple notes any way you like on your screen.

- It is open source.  So there are lots of improvements being made every month or every other month.  

- There are lots of developers world wide, who write plugins.  I have found the plugins to be very reliable.

- Even though this is open source software IT IS SOOOO MUCH MORE RELIABLE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH FROM EVERNOTE DEVELOPERS , THE PAST 3 YEARS!  

- Finally the data, folders and files are yours.  You don't have to wait 2 weeks for Evernote to finally find the last technician who can still figure out how to get you logged in again and give you access to your notes.

- I'm not big into nested folders but I know you can have them with Obsidian.  Obsidian's structure is totally based on the file system of the hardware you are using.  So you can nest folders anyway you want.  I have some nested folders.

The one negative is that the obsidian.md web page documentation is not great for a beginner.  So getting started can be disconcerting, at first.  But you quickly find lots of videos and outside contributors who do explain how everything works, very well.

Sending an email to Obsidian is NOT a native feature.  I do miss that.  There are various recommendations on how to add this capability to Obsidian but none of them are 

since when is obsidian open source?

there are only a few developers for the core product...

 

[Jon/t 786]

21 minutes ago, eric99 said:

since when is obsedian open source? there are a few devs only

 

Its no open source. They host releases on GitHub but you can't get to the code.

The one thing that always worries be about Obsidian is the plugin system. If you install 6 plugins then you're relying on 6 different developers to keep things updated so it works with the core software. Most of the plugins are hobby projects so if a dev gets married, has a kid, changes lifestyle the plugin may get put on hold or never worked on again. 

If you rely on this for you work, business, personal productivity workflows then you're gonna be screwed!

I've spend close on 20 years working with WordPress and pretty much every single problem comes from 3rd party themes and plugins.

I'd rather stick with Evernote where its the companies/developer's actual paid job to make it.

[agsteele 2,570]

7 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

If you rely on this for you work, business, personal productivity workflows then you're gonna be screwed!

I've used the Thunderbird Email software in preference to Outlook. It serves me well but, similarly, every issue arises from the 3rd party plug-ins or at least the dysfunction that arises when the main program is updated.

[eric99 835]

8 hours ago, Sledr said:

OBSIDIAN ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!

- Searches - Obsidian is SOOO FLEXIBLE with its search capabilities

 

If there's one thing I don't like, it's the bloated messy search results list

[Boot17 1,038]

9 hours ago, Sledr said:

The one negative [about Obsidian] [for me]

Of course, that is an implied "for me". There are many negatives of Obsidian depending on your use case and personal preferences.

Personally, I'm finding Obsidian to be very intriguing and promising in many ways and it's moved to the top of my list for alternatives, but there are a lot of tradeoffs and a different mind shift and workflow to use it. Evernote definitely has many advantages over it in different areas (and vice-versa), but if you don't care about those areas then it doesn't matter.

[Boot17 1,038]

5 hours ago, Jon/t said:

The one thing that always worries be about Obsidian is the plugin system. If you install 6 plugins then you're relying on 6 different developers to keep things updated so it works with the core software. Most of the plugins are hobby projects so if a dev gets married, has a kid, changes lifestyle the plugin may get put on hold or never worked on again. 

If you rely on this for you work, business, personal productivity workflows then you're gonna be screwed!

Right, but we've also seen a similar thing happen with Evernote from v7 to v10.

Not as many fingers in the pot, and hopefully not likely to happen again, but it was still quite a drastic and show-stopper change for many.

[sfish 3]

I would be interested to know if anyone has found another app that searches embedded files like EN does.  I have Powerpoint, Excel, Word Docs, and Pdfs in my EN files.  When I do searches on EN, it also searches the content of all of those docs contained in the notes.  This is a feature that I have not been able to find in ANY other app.  Many will search only PDFs.  OneNote, only searches embedded PDFs and I believe the same it true of Notion.  Thoughts?

[RJLUK 275]

BearNotes and Apple Notes both offer the capability to search within PDFs and other types of documents, similar to Evernote. However, in comparison to Evernote, their organizational structure is less robust. Additionally, BearNotes and Apple Notes' web clippers are relatively basic in functionality.

After evaluating numerous alternative solutions, it appears that there is a scarcity of options (with the potential exception of DevonThink) that replicate the functionality that Evernote used to provide.

At present, I am adopting a wait-and-see approach, hoping to avoid any further data losses.

Depending on associated costs, I am inclined to continue using Evernote.

Nevertheless, I find myself in a constricted position, harboring reservations about the software's reliability.

The updates released by the company seem inadequately tested, leading to significant issues. It appears that the company may have taken on more than it can effectively manage, resulting in a situation where they are still finding their footing.

Given this context, it is incredible that they have opted to raise prices for software that is currently unreliable.

[WilliamL 515]

11 minutes ago, sfish said:

I would be interested to know if anyone has found another app that searches embedded files like EN does.  I have Powerpoint, Excel, Word Docs, and Pdfs in my EN files.  When I do searches on EN, it also searches the content of all of those docs contained in the notes.  This is a feature that I have not been able to find in ANY other app.  Many will search only PDFs.  OneNote, only searches embedded PDFs and I believe the same it true of Notion.  Thoughts?

Nope, I’ve not come across any. For basic stuff things like obsidian or heck even notepad do the job - but when it’s more - ocr scanning for instance none get close. Neither does OneDrive which has woeful search and someone tested google drive v Evernote on Reddit for ocr - Evernote beat it too. 

[WilliamL 515]

1 minute ago, RobertJLee said:

BearNotes and Apple Notes both offer the capability to search within PDFs and other types of documents, similar to Evernote. However, in comparison to Evernote, their organizational structure is less robust. Additionally, BearNotes and Apple Notes' web clippers are relatively basic in functionality.

After evaluating numerous alternative solutions, it appears that there is a scarcity of options (with the potential exception of DevonThink) that replicate the functionality that Evernote used to provide.

At present, I am adopting a wait-and-see approach, hoping to avoid any further data losses.

Depending on associated costs, I am inclined to continue using Evernote.

Nevertheless, I find myself in a constricted position, harboring reservations about the software's reliability.

The updates released by the company seem inadequately tested, leading to significant issues. It appears that the company may have taken on more than it can effectively manage, resulting in a situation where they are still finding their footing.

Given this context, it is incredible that they have opted to raise prices for software that is currently unreliable.

Good point re bear and apple notes - great for those fully Apple, less so for those who use more than one platform.  Personally a web app is a must for me so bear is out.

regarding quality of releases. I don’t know much tech wise but I think RTE exposed the coding somehow and caused all sorts of issues - I don’t think continuing to support legacy helps either. They seem to be getting on top of things now and are communicating way better - my apps (barring the glitch on Tuesday!) have been way more stable - especially the mobile ones. 

[RJLUK 275]

1 minute ago, WilliamL said:

They seem to be getting on top of things now and are communicating way better - my apps (barring the glitch on Tuesday!) have been way more stable - especially the mobile ones. 

The trust has gone- and they are greedy for profits.......then again I don't trust microsoft or google.

[Dave-in-Decatur 2,885]

1 minute ago, RobertJLee said:

The trust has gone- and they are greedy for profits.......then again I don't trust microsoft or google.

This is an interesting point. I use Google Calendar, but I would never use either Google or Microsoft services to store important notes and ideas, let alone personal information. I just don't trust them, no matter what their user agreements say, not to capitalize on my personal information. People who don't trust other companies found Evernote trustworthy in this regard. Maybe this explains some of the rage and sense of betrayal we see in these forums with regard to price increases and software malfunctions.

[WilliamL 515]

10 minutes ago, RobertJLee said:

The trust has gone- and they are greedy for profits.......then again I don't trust microsoft or google.

I don’t agree personally, greedy for profits is different to sustainable. Evernote was not profitable - it needs to become so to survive. However raising prices will lose users - that’s inevitable, so they need to set those prices at a level that can compensate for the loss of users. They roughly doubled prices, if they lose 50% of users that’s same income with less resource costs.  I don’t know what the numbers are, there sure are a fair few announcing their departures, I don’t think we can claim this transition is banking them whack loads of cash tho. We’re likely years away from that possibility. 

[RJLUK 275]

5 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

I don’t agree personally, greedy for profits is different to sustainable.

Assuming they did their maths before buying there can be no justification for almost doubling fees and supplying an inferior broken product. What they should do is do away with free accounts- they must be a drain on resources/servers etc.

Maybe make accounts free for a month.

@Dave-in-Decatur summed it up "rage and sense of betrayal" = Exactly.

[WilliamL 515]

51 minutes ago, RobertJLee said:

What they should do is do away with free accounts- they must be a drain on resources/servers etc.

I don’t know if that’s the best idea - no point of developing collaboration if they paywall it. Would reduce flexibility of that feature vastly. 

[RJLUK 275]

3 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

I don’t know if that’s the best idea - no point of developing collaboration if they paywall it. Would reduce flexibility of that feature vastly. 

Well another option do away with support for free users...provide help pages only. I suspect thy are inundated with basic question about app.

Then again what do i  i care? If it saves/synchs /loads on all devices and greedy insulting price increase is revised then they MIGHT have a future.

[PinkElephant 6,733]

There is no support on technical issues for Free users. There is an extensive help database, there is a corporate YT channel.

And there is this forum …

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

On 7/13/2023 at 10:35 AM, HeBoIz said:

Obsidian does have lots of pros - depending on personal use-cases (where I love it for - for special purposes).

But there are as well some cons (once again depending on use cases):

• Obsidian sync is nearly on same price level as EN Pro (but may be avoided with some nerdy workarounds using github or cloud-storage and 3-party-sync)
• Obsidian also ist Electron-based: So for working with Obsidian the hole workspace has to be loaded for each collection of notes, attachments, plugins etc. If you are working local and running Obsidian in background this ist a one-time job. But if you are on mobile opening and loading obsidian may take some time - in some cases every time you change apps - not always fluent work... And: The more content you put in Obsidian the bigger the workspace to load will be. Dividing and organizing notes in different vaults may reduce loading time. Therefore you have to switch vaults for opening notes with other main-topics.
• And by the way: no integrated webClipper , no direct email-forwarding

But sure: simple-file and folder system with Mardown pure, accessible and editable with every simple note-editor

Yeh, the markdown was a no for me. I  need a real editor. 

It also sounded too complicated for what I need it for which is just Notebooks and notes & about 10 other EVN features only to do with notes.

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

On 8/25/2023 at 3:43 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

This is an interesting point. I use Google Calendar, but I would never use either Google or Microsoft services to store important notes and ideas, let alone personal information. I just don't trust them, no matter what their user agreements say, not to capitalize on my personal information. People who don't trust other companies found Evernote trustworthy in this regard. Maybe this explains some of the rage and sense of betrayal we see in these forums with regard to price increases and software malfunctions.

 

They have your calendar too. 

Anyone who thinks ANYTHING online is private doesn't understand what's going on (or has been), especially now. 

Ponder WHY all of these companies suddenly started changing their software when the scamdemic started. 

EVN is one of them & I thank whoever told us that they were bought out by an EU corp.

And WHY almost all companies use live bots now. 

I could go on, but I won't b/c I know I'll get attacked by bullies for speaking what little Truth I already said.

Not that zoho won't be compromised soon if they haven't already, but I use Zoho now, & used to love their support & their willingness to fix bugs until they told me they would make changes to their notebook to look more like an office application like EVN, & they never did. It's been MONTHS. I was promised this in March.

Now they said they won't do it, they will only allow us to size their HUGE notecards/notebooks.

The rest I like.

They have a huge bank of different types of software. If you can think of it, they probably have it. 

And I recently found out that their ticketing system actually keeps the email thread intact which is unheard of with MOST ticketing systems nowadays which I hate. SMH

 

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

On 8/25/2023 at 3:18 PM, sfish said:

I would be interested to know if anyone has found another app that searches embedded files like EN does.  I have Powerpoint, Excel, Word Docs, and Pdfs in my EN files.  When I do searches on EN, it also searches the content of all of those docs contained in the notes.  This is a feature that I have not been able to find in ANY other app.  Many will search only PDFs.  OneNote, only searches embedded PDFs and I believe the same it true of Notion.  Thoughts?

Is that the only reason why you load them onto EVN so you can search inside them?

I use Ultra file search & swear by it & the guy is very fast at responding to tickets. 

It can be a tad complicated with having to use certain keys if you only want to search for a PDF or JPG, etc., but it searches either the title or the inside & it's VERY fast. I love it & have been using it since around 2014.

I've paid him a couple of times b/c he deserves it.

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

On 8/9/2023 at 2:16 AM, agsteele said:

I've used the Thunderbird Email software in preference to Outlook. It serves me well but, similarly, every issue arises from the 3rd party plug-ins or at least the dysfunction that arises when the main program is updated.

I'm nervous about the HUGE update that's pending.

At least 2 of my extension devs have wanted money to redo their entire extension (I donated to one), that's how much of a change it's going to be. 

I'm not even sure I'm going to like the new interface & I won't want to switch. GUI is one of the most important things to me with any software, & I've been using it since 2004. 

Now EVN is forcing me to switch to the one they came out with in 2021 & I don't want to. sigh 

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

@By BASboy - what did you end up doing?

I thought there was a way to PM people here, but I guess not.

When I checked into Nimbus at least 2 years ago, they couldn't import notebooks, only notes. That was a no go for me. I have tons of both. Plus it would have been hard for me to switch b/c of their GUI, but I just emailed them to see if they fixed the notebook issue.

I use them religiously for taking SSs. I love that part of the application & they used to (at least) respond back so fast, that sometimes it was within 2 minutes LOL 

I don't think it's like that much now, but they used to 98% of the time.

 

[Razmataz 37]

On 7/14/2023 at 1:47 AM, ChuckHaas said:

I think I've found workarounds to email imports. 

Care to share it with us?

[JoshYoung 4]

Don't understand all the vitriol here towards the OP. Are these paid commenters? AI? If you're seeing a bunch of posts about people having new issues with Evernote and wanting an alternative, take a clue, people (bots, whoever you are).

Evernote is actually dying. It can't even do text editing right anymore. Text selection is a nightmare and has different bugs from mobile to web. Sometimes copying and pasting goes wild and deletes things and can't be undone. I have routinely in the last few months gone in and edited a note (just text), opened it back up later to find that my changes were missing. No conflicting note warning. Just nada, gone into the atmos. Adding photos or documents to a note via attachments is about a 75% chance that they'll still be there when you open the note up later. Price increases. Long loading times. I just opened the app on web and it just sat there with a permanent loading spinner. This adds up to a list of bugs which can be fixed, yes, but more than that I feel like I can't trust Evernote with my data anymore. If I put something incredibly important into Evernote, it means I'm "saving" it there, and deleting it from other sources with the assumption it will be there until I delete it. If I can't rely on that fact, then Evernote is no longer useful. Full stop.

I feel for the employees that were lost in the US with the move to Europe. If that had been the only change and things were working per usual, I'd say who cares. But this is a mess. Also, can we just stop and ask ourselves why an AI company would want to buy an app with millions of users entire catalog of personal data on their servers? This seems a bit sketchy to me...

[PinkElephant 6,733]

You don‘t seem up to date regarding some relevant changes to the app:

Can‘t comment on your text problems. I don‘t have them, that‘s all I can tell.

If you are still in search for the occasional note conflicts, you are out of luck. RTE syncing avoids note conflicts in situations when the old way of syncing would have produced them 100%. The only note conflicts left need to be provoked, hard core. This means taking 2 clients offline, and edit the same note in a way that can‘t be resolved, because it is contradictory. Example: Erase a full paragraph in one client. Add a new line of text to the same paragraph in the other. Take both online again.

But this is intentional, nothing more than a proof of concept.

I could go on, but as I say, find out yourself.

The owners of EN and founders of BS say they bought the app because they use it themselves since long, and they have a vision where to take it. BS is by no means an AI company (at least you could do your homework before posting such stuff here), that‘s why the AI functions that are currently tested are done with a third party. BS has a solid track record to run apps with millions of users. Ever heard about Splice (Video editing) ? If you were Italian, you likely would have used the Covid Tracking app in that country - a massive data collecting and processing endeavour. These are just a few examples.

Now it‘s on them to show they can take the core of EN, and transform it into a better future. Up to now they have earned my respect, and I give them the chance to show they are up to the challenge. We are all not married with EN, and everybody can plan from subscription to subscription. 

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

9 hours ago, JoshYoung said:

Don't understand all the vitriol here towards the OP. Are these paid commenters? AI? If you're seeing a bunch of posts about people having new issues with Evernote and wanting an alternative, take a clue, people (bots, whoever you are).

Evernote is actually dying. It can't even do text editing right anymore. Text selection is a nightmare and has different bugs from mobile to web. Sometimes copying and pasting goes wild and deletes things and can't be undone. I have routinely in the last few months gone in and edited a note (just text), opened it back up later to find that my changes were missing. No conflicting note warning. Just nada, gone into the atmos. Adding photos or documents to a note via attachments is about a 75% chance that they'll still be there when you open the note up later. Price increases. Long loading times. I just opened the app on web and it just sat there with a permanent loading spinner. This adds up to a list of bugs which can be fixed, yes, but more than that I feel like I can't trust Evernote with my data anymore. If I put something incredibly important into Evernote, it means I'm "saving" it there, and deleting it from other sources with the assumption it will be there until I delete it. If I can't rely on that fact, then Evernote is no longer useful. Full stop.

I feel for the employees that were lost in the US with the move to Europe. If that had been the only change and things were working per usual, I'd say who cares. But this is a mess. Also, can we just stop and ask ourselves why an AI company would want to buy an app with millions of users entire catalog of personal data on their servers? This seems a bit sketchy to me...

 

I haven't trusted EVN for at least 3 years since I started looking for a new solution to no avail, although Nimbus just told me they are revamping everything & so I'm praying they will make it look like EVN (pretty much) & it will have all of the features I need that only EVN has, & I can easily import all of my notebooks & the notes under them.

If anyone want to join in to hire a dev to create a duplicate of the old version, if we get enough people/money, we can develop our own. 

I've lost at least 2 notes (I'm sure more that I'm unaware of) that were HUGE. I spent weeks on one & at least 8 hours on the other. 

When I came here to complain about it, EVERYONE blamed me for the lost notes as if I'm SO stupid I just went in on my own & deleted them. They are tons of bullies on this platform that worship the almighty EVN as if they are related to them. You can't say one negative thing about them otherwise they attack. Just shocking. 

Whether they were deleted by EVN on purpose (they were very important Truther information) or their software is so bad it deleted it, I don't care (well I still care), the bottom line is that they were deleted.

You are right abut their mobile app.

How many times have I tried to get to a note while outside only to NOT see the updates or it says there's a problem with the note (I can't remember the error message).

I'm stressed trying to get the info for whoever I need to give it to & I can't & I just keep going around in circles. 

While on a plane I added a very important note of 1 1/2  years of info to the shortcut. IT LOST THE NOTE. 

A year later I found it in the Trash. sigh I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before because I wrote to EVN & I'm sure they told me to look there.

I had to redo ALL of that info before finding the first note.

Now they are forcing us to be on the latest version of EVN even though I have been avoiding it for years. It doesn't work on Win 7, they removed 2 features I needed, the interface isn't as user friendly AND it was a memory/CPU hog.

AI is tied to you know who, so yes, this speaks volumes about what they are upto AND why they are now forcing us on the version they came out with right after the war started.

Thanks for posting. 

[gazumped 10,692]

16 minutes ago, RapidFinancialSolutions said:

or their software is so bad it deleted it

I have no recollection over the past 15+ years of Evernote ever having deleted content from a user account.  All due respect,  but you're using an operating system that hasn't been updated or supported by Microsoft for 4 years now. There is no basis for accusing anything installed on that system of being at fault for anything. 

[RapidFinancialSolutions 10]

Just now, gazumped said:

I have no recollection over the past 15+ years of Evernote ever having deleted content from a user account.  All due respect,  but you're using an operating system that hasn't been updated or supported by Microsoft for 4 years now. There is no basis for accusing anything installed on that system of being at fault for anything. 

My dear, when they were deleted, it was 2-3 years ago & the OS has nothing to do with EVN. That's just more brainwashing to the masses that an OS that was working perfectly fine is no longer fine just b/c your lord & master KILL BILL tells you so.

And again, I was using the legacy version of EVN which was supposed to work with WIN 7 & it still does & this computer is on Win 10.

I don't care what has happened or hasn't happened to you. I only care about what has happened to me. You are responsible for your life & me mine.

You can call me a liar all you want, that doesn't deny the fact that I've had notes deleted out of EVN.

[PinkElephant 6,733]

You use a deprecated software on a deprecated OS. None of both receive patches any more, they are abandoned for years now.

Both devs actively warn against their continued use. Both devs have offered their users free (!) upgrades to more modern, supported versions.

You continue to stick with the deprecated versions out of your own decision. Sorry, whatever happened, you are on your own with it.

What do you mean by outdated? I got the latest model !

 

[Dave-in-Decatur 2,885]

@PinkElephant, thanks for the pic. These are my people, or were a couple of generations back. In some places in the U.S., even the Amish have solar panels (to power appliances without connecting to the grid). But no TVs.

[Dave-in-Decatur 2,885]

On 10/19/2023 at 10:41 AM, JoshYoung said:

Don't understand all the vitriol here towards the OP. Are these paid commenters? AI? If you're seeing a bunch of posts about people having new issues with Evernote and wanting an alternative, take a clue, people (bots, whoever you are).

Evernote is actually dying. It can't even do text editing right anymore. Text selection is a nightmare and has different bugs from mobile to web. Sometimes copying and pasting goes wild and deletes things and can't be undone. I have routinely in the last few months gone in and edited a note (just text), opened it back up later to find that my changes were missing. No conflicting note warning. Just nada, gone into the atmos. Adding photos or documents to a note via attachments is about a 75% chance that they'll still be there when you open the note up later.

All I can say is I'm not experiencing what you're experiencing. People experiencing problems seem to believe that everyone else is having the same issues, and therefore "Evernote is dying." (Try searching the forums for expressions like that. See how far back they go. And yet it lives.) If anyone ventures to disagree or say it's working OK for us, that's considered "vitriol," and we're accused of being shills. Believe me, they could not pay me enough.

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23 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Believe me, they could not pay me enough.

On that point and if anyone is interested - my loyalties are definitely negotiable,  but they do carry a premium price...  

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18 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You use a deprecated software on a deprecated OS. None of both receive patches any more, they are abandoned for years now.

Both devs actively warn against their continued use. Both devs have offered their users free (!) upgrades to more modern, supported versions.

You continue to stick with the deprecated versions out of your own decision. Sorry, whatever happened, you are on your own with it.

What do you mean by outdated? I got the latest model !

 

 

Hmm, I guess you couldn't read the part where I said that the notes went missing BEFORE their new version rolled out in 2022.

 

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You write a lot. You write here you lost 2 notes. You write in another posting 2-3 years ago. You write the new version came out in 2021 (actually it was 2020). You write in yet another posting you lost a note 1 1/2 year ago on a plane (which probably means offline mode, device not mentioned), and then you found it later in the trash (which rather speaks for a case of fat finger syndrome).

You think anybody could make sense out of this fractionary, partially contradictory and mostly anecdotal description of your ills and woes ? I can‘t, honestly, and given the general tone of the postings, I won‘t. As another user, unrelated to EN except I pay a subscription every year, I can decide where to try an assist, and where to comment. When I think it’s not worth it, I move on.

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7 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You write a lot. You write here you lost 2 notes. You write in another posting 2-3 years ago. You write the new version camp out in 2021 (actually it was 2020). You write in yet another posting you lost a note 1 1/2 year ago on a plane (which probably means offline mode, device not mentioned), and then you found it later in the trash (which rather speaks for a case of fat finger syndrome).

You think anybody could make sense out of this fractionary, partially contradictory and mostly anecdotal description of your ills and woes ? I can‘t, honestly, and given the general tone of the postings, I won‘t. As another user, unrelated to EN except I pay a subscription every year, I can decide where to try an assist, and where to comment. When I think it’s not worth it, I move on.

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LOL, Yeh, you are on here every day & I'm on here around once a year & I write a lot. 

You are hilarious.

I don't need your help. I never asked for your help.

You keep worshipping your almighty EVN & bullying me.

Adios - I don't have time for bullies. I'm too busy fighting in this war. Keep it up. BYE

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