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Chantal Leonard

Evernote for Windows 6.5 Beta 1

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Hi everyone,

Today we're releasing version 6.5 Beta 1 - you can download it here. This release addresses a few key pain points and contains lots of under the hood work. The changes we've done around resource handling are pretty significant so we're keen to know if you experience any issues adding images, or other content to notes.  

Thanks,

Chantal and the rest of the Windows team! 

Evernote for Windows 6.5 Beta Notes

Improved:

  • Improved handling of large resources on 32-bit systems.

Fixed:

  • An intermittent error syncing when connecting to a business account for the first time.
  • Issues with the printing of notes with tables.

 

 

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Liam Gretton    72

If you can find time to fix the problem with printing tables, why can't you fix the main issue with printing which has been going on for years unaddressed? I see with no surprise that print rendering is still appalling in this new release.

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gazumped    5,784

Thanks guys - I know there will be complaints about the different things you 'should have' fixed while tinkering around with the works,  and gripes about whatever's still wrong with it - but I for one am grateful you're continually looking into improving resource handling and large resources and generally making an essential app (for me,  anyway) better than ever...

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spahn    0

Thanks for the work. However, I have several issues:

Saving pictures from a note

  • When I want to save all pictures at once (I click Save attachments), nothing happens. (It worked before the upgrade.)
  • When I want to save pictures one by one, It works, but.. The first picture is saved, the second one wants to save with the same name "Image" and overlays the previous one. I have to type another name. I wish it worked like the first one is "Image", the second one "Image (2)" etc. or so, like with files in explorer in Windows.
  • I wish you added - when saving pictures a window of Windows Explorer appears. It would be useful it remembered the last used file.

Cursor jumps to the beginning of the note title

  • When the cursor is in the note title and I switch the window to another application and return, the cursor jumps to the beginning of the note title.

Thanks

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HerbyDE    94

Oh - now there is a shortcut for intern links on bord - STRG+Alt+L = "evernote://..." So great for macros! Thank you!!! (And maybe a little icon for this feature in the future? :-) )

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gustavgi    220
1 hour ago, HerbyDE said:

Oh - now there is a shortcut for intern links on bord - STRG+Alt+L = "evernote://..." So great for macros! Thank you!!! (And maybe a little icon for this feature in the future? :-) )

Yes, great addition! (Ctrl+Alt+L for non-german keyboards)

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gazumped    5,784

Hmmn.  I think I found one bug - I'm putting together a list of events in 2017,  using the 'created date' of my note to sort them into order.  I have a template for the note layout,  which I set to 31 December 2020 for the created date,  thinking that would sort it to the top of my list and always visible.  However,  see the dates below.  Whichever way I sort by created date,  2020 somehow arrives in the middle of my list,  not at the top or the bottom.  I set the preferences for this view to sort by created,  and I've synced the database in case there's an index to update;  but this is where I stand.  Other dates are sorted OK,  why not this one?  EDIT:  OK the dates aren't sorting properly...weird.  :(

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EdH    1,053
On 12/9/2016 at 3:18 PM, Chantal Leonard said:

Improved handling of large resources on 32-bit systems.

Is there a 64 bit version in the works? I am not sure how many people, if any really, still have 32 bit platforms. Evernote is the only 32bit app I use on my Mac and one of the only 32bit apps on my Win10 machine.

 

Also, there is an editor glitch.

  • Go to a new note
  • open it in a new window
  • create a list
  • enter stuff until you get to the bottom.
  • When you press ENTER at the bottom, EN will go to the next row and enter the next bullet/number, but it will not show you that new row until you type a keystroke.

It should scroll to show this new row when you press enter.

 

Oh, actually you don't have to be doing a list. Just typing and pressing enter will cause this. The cursor will vanish below the visible window until you hit a keystroke. 

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gazumped    5,784

Reference my date sorting problem,  I logged out of Evernote and back in,  and the sort is now correct.  Much better to have that in real time as notes are edited though - keeps things in the correct order...:mellow:

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chirmer    493

I thought maybe this update would fix the poor performance of GIFs in Evernote (which has coincided, perhaps, with the move to Google's cloud), but nope. Sigh. They used to perform flawlessly, but for a few months now they've been incredibly laggy and viewing a note with a GIF in it locks up Evernote.

Actually, in the time I've taken to write this post, I've noticed they perform arguably worse. Most don't even load now. DOUBLE SIGH.

Also putting my quarterly begging request in for fixes to shared tags. Please. Please please please. the Mac client DOES NOT have this issue, so I know it's possible. Please guys. This almost physically hurts to use.

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Wilkster    1

I found one bug in the 6.5 Beta 1 on Windows. One use I have for evernote is for saving excel file attachments to move to different computers. Previously, when a file attachment was downloaded to the computer from a note (RMB Save as...), and a targe file with the same name existed, you were prompted to overwrite the file. With the beta, the file is blindly overwritten. Not sure if this is intentional but I like to be prompted if I am overwriting a file.

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gustavgi    220
4 hours ago, gazumped said:

Reference my date sorting problem,  I logged out of Evernote and back in,  and the sort is now correct.  Much better to have that in real time as notes are edited though - keeps things in the correct order...:mellow:

Could it be that you have unchecked "Search when note is updated" in Options? This applies to all changes to a note. You have to refresh the current search parameters if you want to do a reorder after the changes even though the new info is displayed in the note list.

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gazumped    5,784

You Sir,  are a steely-eyed coding man.  I had unchecked that box - now corrected:  will play more later and see if that was the issue!

Edit.  In fact I just did and things are fine now.  Thanks for your help!

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Don Dz    10

I installed the 6.5.1 beta, then working on Evernote windows became unbearably slow, particularly with a 900k text only note (I use almost no graphics at all in almost all my notes), the hourglass symbol would freeze for between 30 seconds to a minute sometimes.  The problem went away after returning to version 6.4.2.3788, though it still freezes for 1 or 2 seconds sometimes (simply switching between this very large note and the regular sized notes, more on searches) but at least 1 or 2 seconds or even 3 is bearable.

Would be nice if returning to a previous version could be more automated, Evernotes forces you to do a manual uninstall first if the version you are trying to install is older.

Oh, and I use the 64 bit version in Windows 10, with 16 gig of memory and a 6 core processor, if that matters.

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fchandler    4
On 12/11/2016 at 3:22 PM, ccollins0822 said:

Ink note scrolling was fixed in 6.3, broken in 6.4, and @emerick said it would be fixed in 6.5 in the discussion below, but it does not seem to be fixed in this beta...

 

Same here, disappointed Ink Note scrolling issue not fixed as of yet. Hopefully very soon.

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gazumped    5,784

Wow.  Some changes I wish Evernote would document fully,  because this just caused me much confusion.  It's related to both the Windows and the Android clients,  so I'll post a link in that forum pointing back here.  I just had a situation.

As I frequently do,  on 12 Dec I documented a process with my Android Note 4 Camera - in this case replacing my old HP laptop's hard drive for the zillionth time.  When the 3 pics synced to my desktop,  I edited them (14 Dec) - cropped them down and resized them to a standard 680p width (neat freak here) and left the note to sync back to my phone.

Unbeknownst to me,  my phone dropped off the local wifi after the original sync - it's been doing that a lot lately,  so much so that I've disabled my mobile data connection to avoid wasting the limit on routine updates,  syncs and email - and maybe to persuade the little hunkojunk to stay on wifi.  It didn't work. 

When I opened the note a day or so later I saw the uncropped photos.  Knowing the original was dated 12 Dec and the latest changes were 14 Dec,  I decided the changes would overwrite the original,  so I made sure the phone was connected to wifi and started a sync.

So when I came to add comments to my pictures on the phone a little time later,  I looked down the picture thumbnails again,  found the note and saw it was still the 'old' version with a panel that now said said "Note Conflict - a conflicting change happened".  And "View the original note?".  Heck yes.

Yep,  the 'original note' view is what I want.  Now how do I delete the other one?  No obvious option in the 'original note' menu - switch back to 'phone' (uncropped) version - Nope,  no option there either.  WTF?

OK now to the desktop - let's see my 'Conflicting Changes' notebook.  Darn!  I don't have one? - Maybe on the 'phone only? - No,  not there either.  So where are these two notes stored then?  I can see the uncropped 'old' one,  but not the one I cropped.  There are only three pictures,  and I could re-do the work - but the Principle man,  the Principle!!

Back to the desktop.  Search for HP hard drive.  Oh look:  I have TWO notes - one is "Replacing the HP hard drive. Again." and the other is "Note conflict Replacing the HP hard drive. Again."  The created dates are different,  and the titles are different,  so the two aren't side by side unless searched for. 

Thanks Evernote.  Another blood pressure excursion put to rest.  :huh:

So.  TL:DR?

  1. If you dumped confllcting changes notebooks in place of flagging it with title changes,  please tell us.
  2. Please explain how my 12 December picture note got a conflict with a 14 Dec change.
  3. If you flag conflicting changes on mobiles,  maybe link between the two notes?  Or have a delete button for one of them?  I couldn't even find the 'other' note apart from your handy little "see note no 1 - see note no 2" see-saw.
  4. When you flag note conflicts on the mobile don't just give us a way to switch between two notes without giving any explanation

And. 

Pic 1 is the screen I got when opening the mobile app; 

pic 2 is what you get when you tap 'view original' and

pic 3 is the menu with no new options and 'save' greyed out.  How do I choose which note to use?

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EdH    1,053
1 hour ago, gazumped said:

If you dumped confllcting changes notebooks in place of flagging it with title changes,  please tell us.

I am not sure what is going on . I just deliberately caused a conflict with this Windows beta and the iOS app store version, and I got the "Conflicting Changes" notebook back with the conflicted note. Nothing new that I can tell.

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EdH    1,053
12 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Hmmn.  I'm on the Android Beta,  so maybe there's a different process either for Android or for the beta.

That would suck. I just tested it again with this Win beta and the iOS beta. Same thing. Conflicting Changes notebook was created on my PC.

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gazumped    5,784

Weird.  It was the phone sync that caused the problem - latest note was on the laptop / original note on the phone.  Since I whinged about it,  it occurred to me that in 'looking at' the note on the phone,  I may have given it a more up to date timestamp than the note on the laptop,  though there were no real changes apart from the laptop having the same picture files as the phone,  with minor size differences where I cropped the pic.  When I checked both laptop and phone there were no 'conflicting' folders,  just two separate notes.

Edit: ...and it just occurred to me to have a look on the web,  though I've tidied up the notes and updated the correct one,  and of course "Evernote is not available right now,  please call again later..."

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jefito    4,222
29 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Edit: ...and it just occurred to me to have a look on the web,  though I've tidied up the notes and updated the correct one,  and of course "Evernote is not available right now,  please call again later..."

Bad day to buy a lottery ticket, gaz... :) 

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EdH    1,053

Ok @gazumped, I just tested EN Web and iOS. Deliberate conflict. The Note was modified, no "Conflicting Changes" notebook was created.

But the note has BOTH changes in it with a box that says "Conflicting modification on December blah blah blah" followed by one of the differences.

On Windows (not sure about mac, need to test at home) the conflicting changes notebook is an offline notebook, which the web and iOS cannot create. so maybe if the Win client is involved in the conflict, the Win client handles the conflict resolution. But of both clients are online only (like iOS and web) it has always been handled this way, and you just stumbled upon it.

I've been using EN for nearly 14 years and I've never seen this before, but I almost never use 2 online clients at once. it is always Win/Mac, and then one of the online clients.

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André    30

The new version works pretty well on my Windows 10 systems (one W7, too).

Finally, the application is responsive as one would expect. There's almost no waiting left for Not Responding or just a spinning cursor, as has been the case for years.

Thanks a lot for the improvements!

 

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