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Have you heard anything from Evernote staff about this? My touchpad scrolling is still pretty laggy most of the time. It would be nice if scrolling just worked.

I experience this as well, though intermittently. About 10% of the time, touchpad scrolling works well while 90% of the time it's slow and laggy. All types of scrolling on my computer, other than Evernote touchpad scrolling, work just fine. Has anybody filed a bug report? Or contacted Evernote support on Twitter?

Evernote staff seems far more responsive to Twitter messages than to this forum. Try contacting them there and hopefully an employee will file a bug report and get back to you. Evernote on Twitter Unfortunately, as Dave-in-Decatur said, Evernote frequently allows bugs like this to live for many years. If this is a real show stopper for you, then you should seriously look for another note-taking program instead of waiting for the staff to fix the bug. The company has always spent money on the ultra superficial while telling users to endure these bugs, and the recent past was no exception. I've migrated a lot of my stuff to Simple Note and just plain text files within Dropbox and haven't run into a single bug in those applications, ever. Typing letters, backspace, enter key, cursors, focus, etc. all just work!

That's false. You do have some information on how much money was made from that exercise. Not enough to keep it going. Yes, I'm sure the marketing department wanted more money. I'm not sure if the extra $$$ that went to them is more important than a functioning backspace key. It's not so much whining as it is, I think, fair criticism of a multi-year and ongoing misallocation of resources. I would also really like anyone - Evernote staff or otherwise - to justify spending money on tasks such as (presumably) professional designers on iterating logos while ultra basic features, such as cursor, backspace, and focus, are so broken. As soon as someone answers with a clear explanation OR if Evernote stops spending (wasting) $$$ on ultra superficial aspects of the software OR if Evernote makes their software work even 50% as reliably as this forum editor, I'll stop pestering them for an explanation. Until then, curiosity still drives me to post!

This assumption is obviously unreasonable. If they made a lot of money doing it, they would have kept doing it. They stopped. Is it more important than copy/paste, backspace, enter key, having letters appear on the screen, etc.? You may not be an employee of Evernote, but you sure sound like you've decided to defend anything and everything they do no matter what!

No, of course not. But that's not how resources get allocated. It is not about a manager telling a current software developer to drop what they're doing to knit socks. Instead of spending $$$ on sock knitters and logo/UI redesigners, Evernote could have spent that same $$$ on improving software quality. Evernote could have fired the knitters and logo/UI redesigners - or even better, not have hired them in the first place - and used the $$$ to decrease the frequency at which data randomly disappears, the enter key goes bonkers, backspace fails, copy/paste fails, etc. Is there something about this you don't understand or disagree with?

Evernote staff is much more responsive to Twitter messages than to this forum. Send them a message there. This sounds like yet another bug to an ultra basic feature (backspace) that has been created and preserved while they pour tons of resources into rebranding and logo redesign...

Ditto. I'm on the latest version [6.13.14.7474 (307474) Public (CE Build ce-48.0.5483)] and horizontal rule continues to appear or disappear depending on the zoom.

Thank you for doing this. There is some hope for a fix before 2030, but given that Evernote has known about these kinds of cursor bugs for, I believe, as long the company has existed, it's fair to say that fixing bugs - including cursor bugs like this - is not a company priority and it's possible (likely?) they will never consider these bugs important enough to fix.

Well, I agree that that there are multiple sources of cursor bugs and that these cursor bugs go back many years. This thread is discussing the cursor bugs caused by one of those sources. My point, though, still stands: One should not expect Evernote's cursors to work properly any time soon.

I've also gotten frustrated with all the stupid cursor bugs described here and reverted back a couple of versions where they aren't as show-stopping. It seems that not upgrading might be the best way to keep Evernote functioning and usable. Let's not hold our breaths for Evernote to fix these cursor bugs. Everyone from the Evernote CEO to bloggers to famous tech reviewers have known about these kinds of bugs for many years, they've frequently promised to fix these bugs, yet nearly all of them are still alive and well. It's 2018 and cursors are failing badly. Sad!

Some Windows versions, too, have had some improvements (e.g. tables) but many other massive, show-stopping steps backwards as well. For example, I literally cannot type anything into V6.11.

It has been well over a year! The first public announcement was in September 2015 and they said they had already been working on it for a little under two years. Before that were CEO announcements in 2014 that quality would be a top priority. So, we're rapidly approaching the fifth year of promises to fix bugs to the extremely basic features, such as not crashing when you open the program or try to type something, copy/paste, and having only one cursor that doesn't jump all over the program, etc. It's fairly sad to think about how much greater Evernote would be if the company focused more on bug fixes and less on shockingly redundant buttons and branded business socks. Can someone with a technical background explain to me why such ultra basic features would take 5+ years to fix?

I'm not a programmer or anything like that, so I can only guess. And my guess would be that the bugs are baked so deeply into the system that fixing them would risk ruining access and ability to edit billions of notes that were made with the buggy code. Other than that, I cannot think of any reason why Evernote would still struggle so badly with ultra basic features like typing a word and having it appear on the screen, the location of the cursor, copy/pasting plain text, font sizes, blank lines, etc.

Evernote's most recent version is crashing consistently in response to... my attempts to type. It appears to be related to the persistent "forgetful focus" and weird cursor bug issues. Steps to reproduce: Open a note that already has some text in it. Use a touch screen to ( seemingly ) place the cursor inside the note. Press two keys, such as "H" then "K". Evernote crashes/closes/ minimizes/does weird stuff. When you try to reopen Evernote, you get the "Fatal error" reporting thing. This is ridiculous. I'm uninstalling 6.11 and reverting to 6.9. At least it didn't crash in response to typing. p.s. My touch screen is working fine in every other way..