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You can create links to other notes -- Evernote calls them... TA-DA... "note links". I use these pretty often for my work projects.

In the current world, you can have identically named tags in shared notebooks, and they'll work, but they're handled awkwardly in at least some of the clients (the Windows client is where I see this the most, as that's what I use most of all. For example, I have a "_Todo" tag in both my work and personal accounts, and share notebooks back and forth between them A search on "tag:_Todo" will successfully find notes from wither account, which is how I feel it should work: there is no way to specify a tag from a different account in the search language, at least at this point in time, so it would be crazy-making if it worked any other way. On the other hand, the UI insists on maintaining separate instances of the two tags in most places (the tag panel, the tags screen, Assign Tags dialog, the tag selector in the search control, and probably other places). Sometimes they're disambiguated with the account name if the shared account they come from, sometimes note. In the tag tree, you see two versions, and if you click on one, the other is automatically selected as well. It's all a little weird and clumsily handled: they had to jump through some hoops to build in the logic to do the extra work, but in the end, there's no functional difference in the outcomes: there no way to specify the account name of a tag in the search language. Anyways, that's a long way of saying that you *can* have shared identically-named tags (I don't know about the 'global' bit; I'm not even sure I know what that means: all tags must come from some account, after all, and that's not global). There's no notion of private (or local tags), and I don't think that there needs to be; I would just prefer that shared identical tags be handled a little more elegantly.

Sounds like you have a couple of feature requests here. If you want to make a feature request for the web clipper, I'd suggest that you post it down in the Web Clipper subforum. Evernote employee jbignert is pretty responsive down there.

I think that that's rather the whole crux of the Evernote/Markdown issue: general HTML and Markdown aren't really equivalent in terms of what they can express. I would think that Markdown would be great for quickly jotting off a simply formatted note (so a good means of input into Evernote), but you can't expect roundtripping with HTML to work in general.

That's not my solution; that's just a workaround used by some users. I don't use it myself, but it's a possibility, and it does have some search advantages with judicious use of the wildcard ('*'). Search results are ordered in whatever way your note list is ordered (I use Created date, reversed almost all the time). But no, you wouldn't get any ordering based on tag name, unless you were in list view, sorting by tags, which is supported in some Evernote clients (Windows, for one).

What sort of export capability did you have in mind? The Windows client can export to HTML and Evernote format (ENML). If you export notes out of Evernote, then you do lose the ability to use Evernote to search them.

"Don't censor yourself, Phil!" is probably a lot like telling him "Don't forget to breathe!" I gather he's more of an aim high, dream big sort of guy. I tend to not listen much about what the suits say, because they're usually talking about something in the future. I prefer to listen to the software. With Evernote, so far so good. Not perfect, and not everything I want, but it suits my uses.

Inconsolata, please. Or Consolas. Even so, Evernote just inserts 5 spaces in the current font, so there are no actual tabstops. But yes, you can make things line up with them.

As noted any number of times in the forums, Evernote does not support tab characters in note content. Best guess is that that's because tabs are just whitespace with no intrinsic meaning in HTML, which underlies the Evernote format. In HTML, tabs are not tabs either, not in the same way as they are in a text editor. If you want things to line up in Evernote, you use indent/outdent, lists (bulleted or numbered), or tables.

Aw. Killjoy. You're... Undermining... An. Epic. Rant.

Public service announcement: OK, I think that it's time for folks to let this particular off-topic topic go, and move on, whichever side of the fence you're on. That means snarky little references, blame-casting, asides, explanations, rebuttals and all. I'll make a point of reporting posts here that contain that sort of content, no matter who posts it, and let Evernote staff sort things out.

I'm not defending Evernote at all, I'm just pointing out a reality of software development, or indeed, development of any product or service. You take request, mix them in with your own ideas, try to figure out level-of-effort vs perceived benefit, sort against other features, and lay them out against available resources. This article is an interesting read in that light, at least to me. Please point out where I say that it's a bad idea to listen to your customers. It's always fair for users to make requests (and I believe that does Evernote listen), but those requests compete for resources with other users' requests, and Evernote's internal plans for their products. For what it's worth, I see this feature as a nice-to-have for my use case, as opposed to "important and obvious", but that's independent of what I was saying when I replied to you.

??? Tags can be obviously used to show a relationship between notes. In fact, that's really a defining characteristic of tags. Now they may not easily be able to express all of the relationships between notes that some users want to express, but that's a different matter. In your case, you could have a tag for the book, and a number of generic tags for Chapter1, Chapter2, Section1, Section2, etc. Apply as needed. This would give you ordering, but you can certain search on "tag:MyBook tag:Chapter3 tag:Section*", say, to pull out all of the sections in chapter 3 of your book. Somewhat equivalently, you could just make your book into a notebook, with the generic tags as before.

Cute, but the usual answer in the real world is that the folks who make decisions about what to implement don't see it as a high priority item. I suppose that could count as "they don't care" or "they don't care enough about the issue to change the behavior".

Glad to hear it -- thanks for sticking with us while we sorted out our conceptual stuff.

The way that I do this is to add a reminder (dated or undated) to the note. On the Windows client, this doesn't work in List View, but does in Snippet View, which is what I use (also in Card View). Reminders are displayed in a special sublist at the top of your normal note list, and its contents are in the context of the current search; i.e., if you are viewing a single notebook, then only reminders for that notebook are shown in the Reminder List.

I'm aware of this. I would intuitively group meetings into substacks, but since I can't do that, I'm having to find another way. Right. That's why I'm pointing you towards tags, which I understand may or may not suffice for your needs, but you should at least know about them. Yeah, support on the Android app for this stuff is not there, unfortunately. A problem with the mobile apps is that they tend to lag the desktop apps. You can do it in one of the desktop applications (Windows., Mac), or also in the web app, but dragging a tag onto another tag. Move a tag to the top by dragging to the Tags list header.

If the ability is shutdown via the service (as is likely, since using an old version of Evernote won't magically make them work, I'd guess (evernote also uses the API, right?), then whatever API functions that you would use to create public notebooks would likely also not work for 3rd-party developers. Most likely the API doc hasn't changed, is all.

You can already nest to one level deep using stacks. Stacks also group notebooks together for purposes of filtering your note list, which can be helpful. Tags can certainly be used as a navigation tool, as there are plenty of folks around in the forums who do so. In fact, they can serve as better navigational aids, as you can assign notes to more than one hierarchy which can facilitate context dependent navigation. Not sure what your use case is that precludes using tags for navigation, but we can give it a try if you care to elaborate. My rule of thumb with regards to notebooks is to only create them when necessary. In my case, that means: * If I want to share a set of notes with another user (e.g., my work account) * If I want a set of notes to always be available on a mobile device (these are "offline" notebooks) * If I want a set of notes that I want to remain local to a machine, never synced to the Evernote servers (a rare circumstance for me) This leaves me with a relatively small set of notebooks (less than 20 in each of my two accounts), which I further organize using several stacks. I do understand that other use cases may require many notebooks. Evernote may not be the right application for those.

You can go back and read the posts by 'engberg' in this topic -- he is the CTO of Evernote. One key quote: "What is the task you want to accomplish with hierarchical notebooks that you can't do with hierarchical tags?" The key word there is "appearance". They don't present an actual folder hierarchy, lat time I checked (where I understand a folder hierarchy to mean that an email/note resides in exactly one folder). Labels are more or less synonymous with "tag". And tags *do* nest. Tags are not clunky at all (or shouldn't be) for people who know how to use adjectives.

Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things.""I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Anyway, you can already share a single note as read-only via email. You can also share a notebook as read-only with another Evernote user; that's the default anyways.

Please stop. Refer to item #5 in the Forum Code of Conduct. Thank you.

I find the occasional duplicate among my notes -- they're almost always web clips that I've done a couple of times without realizing, usually software development reference material, and not the important stuff that I create. So to me, it's a big "So what?" It's not like I'm hurting for storage space. It's not like having the extra copy is a burden to performance. It's not like I'm losing any information. I just delete any duplicates I run across, and move on. Might be a nice third-party tool to have in your kit, but I don't see the 'must have' in this...

"limitation of an implementation from many years ago": you have a quote that backs that up? Dave E's quote indicates that it is indeed a design choice. This is known in the trade as a "workaround"; in this case a workaround to what is still apparently a design choice, barring evidence to the contrary. Incorrect: I have no duties to collect/report to management (it is my understanding that Evernote staff do read all posts). I am not an employee, nor am I paid. "Evangelist" is an Evernote-given title, and I do aim to help out users with their problems (it also entails being a moderator); sometimes that entails pointing out Evernote's actual statements on the issue at hand. Go for it.

The behavior is by design (see the second post in the topic, by Dave Engberg, who is the company CTO). Since Evernote haven't changed their stance on this design choice, they probably don't seem inclined to post about it any more. I'm sure that they realize that it would be useful to some users. Since your tag usage is a shared vocabulary with your bookkeeper, and the tags are important to both of you, it shouldn't be too hard to come to a tag set that covers most of your needs, with the occasional "hey, I need this tag 'xyz'", "OK, I've added it" exchange required. Alternatively, you might try to come up with some scheme whereby you can categorize/filter these notes via a special title or line in the note -- other folks do this instead of using tags. Not sure where you got the idea that the premium service had this capability, but if it's the only reason that you upgraded, then you should open a support request and drop back to the free service.