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It is only possible through workarounds to revert to older versions: With iTunes before ver 12.7 you could reinstall prior versions of apps via iTunes If iTunes is beyond ver 12.7, this is no longer possible. Then there may be a way through the Apple configurator. Both methods will not work in any case, depending on app history and availability, and they are still workarounds. If you need How-to-details I please search for it yourself. I just found some German explanation, and it sounds more complicated than practical. By the way, I am quite happy with 8.21 both on my iPad Pro and my iPhone...

@dconnet Interesting - is there a more detailed description of this scripting option for Windows somewhere ? Is tagging an option ?

On their last official EN video with Ian Small they have posted some interesting information about how they changed their database to make it more performant and responsive. In short they had one central read/write structure before that had to serve all traffic. On finding that the main traffic is read only, they created several read-only copies of the central hub, that spread the read traffic among them, with a regional twitch. So all write Traffic still goes to the hub, but read requests will be handled by a distributed base of cloud servers closer to the users. Maybe I was just lucky to download after this was done ... But still given that the iOS devices are much more similar to each other than the Androids, I am amazed that some experience heavy problems when others report solid performance. I would expect a more coherent behavior of the iOS user base.

On the Mac, the EN database rest in a folder structure. Basically one file per note or attachment. It is quite different to the Windows client where the data is comprised in one big file. You can still find the exact place under which these folders are to be found somewhere in the Mac client. My Mac is already down for the night, otherwise I would try to find it. I do not remember at the moment, but DTLow posted somewhere, somewhen here in the forum how to get to the path. How this will help to rid us from the EN-SPOTLIGHT-KEYCHAIN bug I do not see.

Tagging means that I know in advance I am going to search for it one day. Works fine, as long as I know. But often I will not know in advance, and then reliable search is a must. The initial post opens a valid question, that advanced search does not work as advertised. But my own quick test leads to another assumption: Search works as advertised / described. Text only means text within context, not necessarily exact match Text in hyphens means exact match The residue of unexplained search results IMHO is related to faulty OCR, not to the search function itself. This is my impression from a brief test described above on the Mac client. When I find some time, I may repeat this on the Windows and iOS clients, just to learn for myself. Conclusion: If we want to be sure to find what we are looking for, we should make sure the OCR is performing when saving our stuff. Or don’t OCR ourselves, and leave the OCRing to EN on the server. When a document comes already loaded with OCR content, EN will not OCR it again. Thus we can ourselves create the messy search we are complaining about afterwards.

If it will sync, I do not know. Maybe there is a trigger in the DB-structure, that is read when the client opens and causes the sync ? First thing if I were you is that I would push my account to Premium/Business - because you should not expect us users to really solve an issue like that. With a paid account you have access to support - and if you really want to dive that deep, you will probably need it.

On Windows there is a SQLite-DB behind the client. Maybe even easier to handle through external access (SQL-code) than the multi-documented Mac back end.

Offline download: I have a pretty fast Internet at home, so if there was something slowing things down it was not that. I think the problem was that every time the app was not at the front, or the iPad went to sleep, the downloading stopped. In total I have 10GB of downloaded data for the EN app, and it took appr. 2 days to get it done. On the iPhone I just have very few notebooks offline, those that I will really need on the fly (travel, inbox, stuff like that). Actually I do not use the app often on the iPhone, because it is just quick retrieval, not working on the notes as on the iPad.

Since I do not have any trouble (no using Siri on this either): Have you yet contacted support on this ? For me, since 8.20 everything works again as it should.

Try the refurbished pages on the apple store. These are new (not reworked), mainly from returned orders, fully checked and often 10-15% cheaper.

Have all my notebooks offline already ... It just won’t help with the current restrictions of iOS: One note at a time, all the time.

Yes, waiting for this as well ! I hope for more changes, like having a local copy of the EN database on the ipad, being able to open several notes at once, join notes into one, do mass tagging and moving of notes etc like on the desktop clients. I have all my notebooks as offline copy, but it is not the same. On the note taking, I have a personal policy of restricting my use of different apps for one purpose. It is o.k. If you have any of the good note taking apps when you search for content. I go to GN when I remember it was handwritten, and will find it pretty fast. When using several apps for the same purpose, it can be difficult. GN has made it clear they will not make live export to any other services. This is a 10-people company, living on selling the app and not an abo model - so they probably do not want to dedicate a lot of their resources just to keep the interfaces up to date. Noteshelf at the moment stands out with the „save-to-EN“ option, if you are a EN user.

Did the check myself, cutting away the last letter of „Rechnung“ (invoice in German). Similar result, searching for Rechnun created several hundred hits, searching for „Rechnun“ only 7. Maybe this results from OCR where there may be alternative spellings saved, or where this exact spelling resulted from a OCR by accident. There is OCR software that will save different options when it had problems to identify a word. Then I have tried with Premium and „Premi“. Here it was 99 to 0 (zero). So I think that the hyphen do really work for exact matches, as described, at least on the Mac client.

I suppose there exist tools for Windows as well to manipulate local HTML-content. Typically there is a lot of 3rd-party freeware available, for all type of uses, often in an eternal status of rel 0.9 (use it, but don’t blame anybody if it goes wrong). Depending of from which source the content arises, I think there are alternatives to manipulating the HTML /ENEX files directly. I especially like the Windows version of the Scansnap software, that is far superior to the rudimentary stuff available on the Mac. For me this is one reason why I live with both desktop clients.

Right, the pdfs are as static as they are from other sources. What I like is that they carry their OCR info, and I can annotate them using the build-in EN tools to do so. I do not say it is the ideal workflow for everybody. In my case, I keep the „living“ notes in GN5 for as long as they need to be appended and edited. GN has included a very good search function with ver.5, that will search all notebooks, not only one as before. For me, I prefer to have a separate handwriting app with a perfect iCloud-sync and other features I like, and have the additional step to export what I want to file away into EN. For other use cases, the Noteshelf option is probably better, especially because Penultimate is a walking dead software, not able to even perform simple tasks offered by most other handwriting annotation apps.

Always depends on who you let in, and if you trust these people. Comfort goes along with openness ... one reason why I prefer to pay for my more important services, instead of believing that a good product will be available „for free“. The „free“ model of filterize is obviously for testing purposes only (very restricted), so pay as you use stands for me for a sustainable business model.

Just as information: There has been reports that the sync from noteshelf into EN has gone bad sometimes. It seems that when the notes get very big (plenty of pages), this can cause hiccups. So if you want to use it, probably keep the notes short, and use more of them. Personally I use GoodNotes 5 for note taking. No sync into EN, but exports as pdf, including OCR for searching in the handwritten notes.

Everybody who will feel better after should change his PW. Nor harm done by doing so ... More important are 3 other things: Activate 2FA, on EN and on any other account where it is possible. Most important are the E-Mail-Accounts because these are often used to reset other Passwords. Get a PW manager that helps you to produce strong, individual PWs. Many (like 1Password) will even analyze your accounts for weaknesses, and will tell you where 2FA is available. Check your accounts (mostly the E-Mail adress often used as account name) whether they appear in one of the many breaches that has happened over the years. These did not happen at EN - but if one reuses account name and PW from other services, the account is at risk. Checks can be done at https://haveibeenpwned.com/ for free. This does not tell that your PW has actually been misused, it just checks whether it is included in the stolen account files that circulate in the internet. Many are ...

@BABMy preferred workflow on the iPad Pro to get stuff into Evernote in a controlled way is this: Open the web page Whenever possible, switch to the reader version Tick "share", tick "print". A print window will open. Select the range of pages you want to transfer (in reader view, it is mostly the whole document, in web site view you often have a lot of clutter on the backward pages). Put 2 fingers (best thumb + 1 finger) on the little document shown, pinch outward like you want to open the little preview Bang - the little thing opens - what you have now is a pdf version of the website (in reader mode) Tick on "share" again, select Evernote, change the title if needed, pick a notebook, select tags, save Voila - you now have a clean copy of the website content as a pdf in Evernote - and this pdf you can annotate using your pencil, or whatever. I prefer this way above clipping the page directly. It comes out clean and reliable, can be opened, shared further, annotated etc. The trick to go through the share-print-process does not only work with websites and Safari - you can create a pdf of nearly whatever you have in many apps by this, not only to send it into Evernote, but save or work on it in many other apps (depending of what you have installed on your device).

Usually, when I want the candy bar, I stomp my little feet, and I get it 😂 For me, the videos tell us what to expect - but they open a feedback window as well to tell what we would like. So why not tell what we think would serve our individual one out of thousands of use cases - at the end, every software solution is a compromise between a set of workflows to cover, technical issues and the need to keep the user interface simple, and the software serviceable. I enjoy the clearly communicated strategy, the new openness, and what I see up to now in releases is confirming this feeling.

They sure must be working on iOS 13 already, if they want to have it proven and tested at the official release in September. I hope they will develop an iPad-version as well - to have 2 EN-notes open at the same time in split screen mode would be terrific.

Technically I am not sure if a local encryption could compromise the cloud data. Any encryption used by ransomware today would encrypt the whole file on the PC, not selectively note content, leaving the shell intact. I doubt that such an encrypted file would be still uploadable, and it would not „find“ its server twin to overwrite it. I think ransomware to specifically encrypt an EN database in a way that will foul the server data as well is a pretty unlikely beast. Anyhow, you can go back through note history to a prior-to-encryption note status. Sure, I would rather not want to do this on several thousand notes ... Against ransomware attacks there is currently one proven method: Do backups, do them with sufficient frequency based on how often you change relevant data, and do at least one copy (over several generations) on a disk not permanently connected to your network. As a private user, if you get 3 identical HDDs (or today even SSDs, since they have become cheap(er) than ever), name them 1-2-3 and cycle them through, keeping always 2 of them outside of your house, you will be pretty safe. You do not even need to make a direct backup to these disks - run a proper backup software permanently, for example to a NAS, and backup the backup folders from there to your remote disk. This approach will not only protect against ransomware, but against other disasters like fire, flooding etc. as well. And it will protect all of your data, not only the EN database.

My preference would be on the TOP. Why ? Because if the note is just holding an attachment (like a pdf, as many of mine do), I would rather not like to move around the complete window to find all my elements. At the top, I can today a) modify the note title (spotlight search on the Mac will only find these words) b) enter some short text on top of the attachment as explainer c) set my tags d) select the target notebook. Everything at the moment nice and close together in the control zone. If moved to the bottom, I will have to think about scrapping my precious 32“ display, and go back to something smaller 🤓

@Leslie-Jean What DTLow expresses with his question is that the „available“ version of many apps depend on the version of your MacOS. When you do not bump your MacOS up (for whatever reason), you will get stuck with older app versions as well. The Mac will not let you install programs that are not supported by the current OS version. Currently you would be on Mojave 10.14.5 if you want to run the latest MacOS. And Evernote will then have 7.10., including templates and many other changes.

@RaeveMy combination is Evernote for the filing, and Things 3 for the follow up / task planning (Mac and iOS only). When you create an external link from an EN note, you can share this directly into a Things note, where it will added to the „notes“-area of the task. The task can be handled completely normal, including repetitive reminders, start dates, deadlines, assignment to a project etc. The original note is always just one click on the embedded link away. This is what it looks like after a link was shared into the Things INBOX (mmmh, planning to bake a cake 😇 )