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Are the instructions there not correct?

It's interesting (?!?) -- I've had mixed experiences with the latest beta. Sometimes opening a note is right away, sometimes there's a very noticeable delay. Keep on it, Everfolks!

Please post a link to the Q & A page that you went to; if it has bad information, then Evernote should know about it and fix it. I don't recall that there's ever been a "delete" button for notebooks. A web search for "evernote windows delete notebook" turned up the following Evernote page, which contains the correct way to do it: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313478-How-to-delete-notes-and-manage-your-Trash

You were not dismissed. We users do not generally have the tools to do in-depth problem solving for Evernote issues. Raising a support request is fair advice, as is posting about it in the forums (Evernote does read them, but their posting here is a bit sparse). Note that the 4-5 second lag that you report is a lot smaller than the lag reported here, which appears to have come with the 8.10 public release, and isn't specific to template usage, but instead opening existing notes.

This is not just trolling, per se. While the Android application isn't "crashing all the time", or at all, currently, a lot of folks -- myself included -- are experiencing a very noticeable slowdown accessing our notes, including notes that are in offline notebooks. This is a real problem that started with the last public release and continues with the most recent beta. For reference:

Cherry-picking on this (and no points taken away from @s2sailor's keen eyes), from the "classic" web version (still there, but kinda flaky and not very usable), tags on top: Anyways, nit-pickery aside (and I guess you did qualify with "modern"), I'm down with getting consistent user experience everywhere Evernote is, at least to the extent possible. That's good and important work, and focusing on that plus wringing out nagging bugs now rather than later is welcome. In any case, thanks for chiming in, and thanks for listening.

You can find anything he's written through his forum profile: @Ian Small

Windows? Mac? Android? iOS? Web?

The old tech blog did make for entertaining reading. Not exactly in my wheelhouse, technically (similar to this one above), as I am more interested in the UI that Evernote users face every day because it's closer to what I do, but I do like learning about the underlying underpinnings of what we see on our own devices. Today's video did seem a little prosaic / straightforward: the engineer finds the bottleneck, and remedies it; maybe more information about how the user store propagates its changes to its replicants. I guess since it's a lower frequency operation, it's probably OK to just send updates along immediately, but it did seem like a missing piece, and since it was pitched to a pretty non-technical audience, that part of the audience might might not have noticed. In any case, I know you folks are up there listening. This time around, not much to talk about, but the prior video on UI approach / changes is something that is great for getting feedback on, since we're more apt to have stronger opinions on what we interact with directly. I'm hoping for more videos along those lines.

Agree with gaz that full HTML editing is probably beyond the scope of what Evernote's trying to do, but also suffer from webclips that don't look as great in Evernote as they do in a browser. Another thing that you can do, at least in the Windows product, is to export your web-clipped note out to HTML format, edit it using your favorite HTML editor, and drag it back into Evernote.

Ran steps 1 & 2 of this scenario. Was able to type in the note title, but trying to switch to the note body, the editor froze for a while. Didn't need to force-stop, it came around eventually, edit the note body, change notebooks, etc.. Evernote did not crash. The freeze is definitely problematic; hard to tell what's causing it, whether it's local or a problem on the Evernote servers. This is Android 6.0.1, just for reference.

I don't know which would be easier. In order to make this happen, you'd need a way to recognize cell/range references in in a table, and distinguish them from things that might look like cell references or formulas. This has to be done using some form of HTML markup, and I don't know how easy/difficult it would be for Evernote to do all of that. For me, the easy (and cool) bit -- or at least the part of the problem that I have experience with -- is parsing and evaluating formulas. "Embed" means "create attachment".

Addendum: I've noticed some slowness with this version at times, other times it's seemed normal/a bit faster. But no crashes as of yet.

Is this related to the Android Beta (the forum topic where you posted)? What version are you using?

Seems to be working fine on my Droid Turbo. Seems a bit snappier, even. For people having problems, you should post your device and Android OS version.

So far, just a new graphic. If they were to allow for other colors, it'd probably be a dropdown to the color picker, as with the pen color control. I'm not saying that that won't change, but there's nothing really new under this particular sun, at least for now.

Not sure what the "pen feature" that you refer to is. What point in the video do they discuss it? Currently, the highlighting is still just a toggle.

[Identical requests merged to this one]

OK, looks like the semantic-ness is carried around using the familiar <h1></h1>, <h2>/<h2>, etc. markup. Makes sense. And these are indeed headers, semantically, not just styles, exactly as advertised. Since only <h1> - <h3> are currently used in the beta, <h4> - <h6> are available. So , maybe? Defining arbitrary named styles? Not sure -- the HTML Force is not all that strong in this one. Note that the header styles do seem to play well with the new fonts (meaning they retain their semantic content, as well as taking on the different font choice): you might see something like, e.g., <h2><span style="--en-fontfamily: serif; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif">Medium Header - Serif</span></h2> One other note: using the current Windows application, the fonts do look different from those in the web beta, the script font in particular. Not sure if that's a temporary thing, as the video did mention (I think) that the Evernote-blessed fonts would be distributed with all Evernote applications. That's all for now from the Department of Curiosity for It's Own Sake...

Enjoyed the video. Some stuff: In general, I like the direction of the semantic headers, especially given that you'll be able to customize them. Questions: Will the headers look the same on a different device as on their source, or will they match the local header customizations? If not, will there be a way to transport the customizations to a different device? Scenario: I may want to see things look the same across my devices, but if I share with someone else, maybe they don't like my style choices and want to see them their way. Also, how is the semantic-ness of the headers carried around? Must be some convention in the markup, I suppose And the money question: will we be able to create our own headers? With respect to the new font stuff, that's not surprising, given how other cross-platform & web apps do it (e.g., Gmail, this forum, etc.). Obviously the note renderer can handle arbitrary fonts outside the magic circle, so I can drop arbitrary rich text in and it should work, but there are specialized typefaces that I need to use on occasion, and would like to be able to edit directly in them, rather than copy/pasting from elsewhere. I'm guessing that I'm not alone. So how does that play out in the new Evernote world? Good that you're keeping the old checkboxes (guess you really had to, for backwards compatibility), but the checklist will be welcome as well. Thanks for doing this series. Edit: Oh yeah, the tags thing. The [Share] status is definitely down my list of importance; I only share notebooks between my home and work accounts, and I know what's what by notebook name. Tags are much higher priority, and I think that they naturally go in tandem with the notebook, because that's how you organize things in Evernote. Plus tags -- at least in my case -- function like keywords in an abstract; the provide context. Short form: I'm not a big fan of separating notebook name and tags on the screen. Also, seeing as how the new editing feature are appearing in the web beta, at least for me, I'll kick those around a bit, see whether I can answer some of my own questions.

Disagree all you want, but you're wrong. Again, Evernote is *not* hijacking anything. Evernote is using a valid Windows API to register system-wide hotkeys, just like other developers, including Windows do. Anyways you've already been given options as to how to stop Evernote from attempting to register a hotkey for the screen clipper. Use it. Or configure a more convenient hotkey. Or if you don't want Evernote to use the screen clipper when it's not running, learn how to shut down Evernote in a way that makes that happen: either File / Exit, or right-click on the Evernote icon in the taskbar, and select "Quit Evernote". Both of those methods disable the screen clipper from using its designated hotkey. Yes, looks like the clipper executable is still running, which is not great, but it still won't clip when you use its hotkey, at least in my tests. It is certainly not arrogant of Evernote to correctly use a documented Windows API in the way it was intended (I'll grant that it's not a great API, but that's too bad). It would be unhandy of Evernote to not provide a way to disable the hotkey or change it to something different, but, oh wait, they actually do provide both. Nobody is making you use the screen clipper, and nobody is stopping you from using the available tools to prevent it from conflicting with anything. It's really a lot simpler than needing to go through some task manager / regedit ring-around-the-rosey drill. For goodness' sake, use the Force, Luke... We're talking here about the Evernote for Windows screen capture functionality, which allows you to clip a window or define an area of the screen to the clipboard, to an image file on disk, or direct into a new Evernote note. This is not a browser extension. Super handy for development, in my book. Not so much for others, evidently.

So go and add your vote to the actual ongoing feature request here:

There is no way in Evernote, at least at this time. Ordering for notebooks is alphabetical. Ordering for notes can be via a number of ways, including alphabetically, by title, created date, updated date, adn so on. Availability of note sorting options depends on the client you're using (Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, web). The one thing in Evernote that you can generally sort manually is reminders (which are a kind of a note typically displayed in their own special sublit).

You should probably start here: https://discussion.evernote.com/forum/527-customer-supportbilling/, maybe this post: https://discussion.evernote.com/forum/527-customer-supportbilling/?

Merged your post with the main "Dark mode for Windows" topic. Please read replies from @dconnet above.