Dave-in-Decatur

Here is a link to a shared note with my comments on prioritization: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s316/sh/56699725-a985-d7ae-93b5-6c88ccc99605/Ki5RudGMNthNtp5BM4RKUGDgzWea34I2r19Rm6M-NYLvihMEjrxgdWBHiw. A few particular comments: It might be worth pointing out that the priorities largely reflect those of the list's main contributors in their use of Evernote. Many high priority items are at best medium for me (A.01-A.04, for example). I just don't feel a need for them. That doesn't mean their priorities should change, only that Evernote's users have widely varying differences in their use of the software and service. Two items, B.08 and D.01, seem to have some corruption or scrambling of their texts. There are some items that are not accurate, and others that I would leave out entirely, as being just "I want Legacy back" complaints. See the shared note. As others have suggested, a lot of the items in section D look to me, frankly, like just support ticket matters. In the shared note, I indicate a few high priority items that I do agree with, and some that I would prioritize more highly. Thank you again, @ferol, for doing this! And also @AlbertR, @Feitz, and others who are trying to "hold Evernote's feet to the fire" regarding v. 10.

This is not what happens for me in the Windows desktop app. At any Zoom level, Ctrl plus either + or - works properly to zoom in and out, and Ctrl+0 restores the default.

I did submit a request back in February for a problem in which filtering for tables doesn't find all of them. I worked through the robot response and in about a week heard from a human, who said it was being passed along to the developers. So, while not brilliant, it's better than many people found it to be for awhile. I guess the canned responses can guide people through some steps that are helpful to take, if they haven't already (and not everybody has), so that they weed out the things that don't need human interaction. But response time could still be a lot better.

I don't usually get crashes, but I have noticed this visible updating of the Notes list (on my Home page), with some flickering of the screen. It does need to update; I don't know if it could be made to do it faster, though I don't remember seeing this before.

@ombus, we're just other users here, so we can't answer this question (which is a very valid one). For support: https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action. To give feedback directly to Evernote: feedback@evernote.com.

Shortcuts are now on the sidebar, not the top. Honestly, big deal, IMHO And FWIW, I've had to scroll that top shortcut list in Legacy in order to reach one at the end, since each one occupies the space that the item it refers to requires.

He meant write to them: https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action. No talking. We all know that.

As has been noted, Evernote is slow at first because it is (1) downloading your complete note DB in the background, and (2) updating each note to the new sync structure as it is opened. Once that's done, it speeds up. But it never becomes as fast as a native app on your operating system, because of the Electron wrapper. The tradeoff for that is that Evernote now appears and acts similarly across all platforms: Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, Web; and the developers can work from a unified codebase, not FIVE different sets of code. Hence more rapid updates and bug fixes (the ones they turn their attention to; hopefully they'll have more time for that once they're not dealing with Legacy anymore). It's a tradeoff, and everyone must decide whether it's worthwhile. For me, working on both Windows and Android, and not being a tag-editing ninja, it is. If you only work on one platform, it might not be, and there might be better single-platform options.

@Soapm, I think @Payam Montie is talking about the changed interface that appeared in v. 10 a few weeks ago, not the difference between v. 10 an Legacy (which I think you're talking about, but I could be wrong). IAC, here's the place to tell Evernote directly what you think of the recently changed v. 10 interface: https://waz9zvkd1f2.typeform.com/newuifeedback.

My viewpoint: we had to learn the previous interface too; it wasn't so intuitive that we were born knowing it! It was a matter of getting used to it, and learning to remember how to get to this or that--and only then was everything "there when you opened the app." And we now (or for some of us a couple of years ago) are having (had) to get used to a new one. If you haven't read the blog post on reasons for discontinuing Legacy, here it is: https://evernote.com/blog/legacy-decommissioning,

See the thread I started on the search for tables in regular search (linked below). I haven't tried with AI, so I appreciate the confirmation that it's failing there too. It used to find only a limited number of with tables, from prior to last August. Now it doesn't find any at all! A sure sign that Evernote's developers are working on it. If you wouldn't mind submitting a support ticket, I think it would be good for them to hear from more than one person: https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action.

To address Evernote directly about this: https://waz9zvkd1f2.typeform.com/newuifeedback.

Hmm. For me, it definitely closes Evernote briefly and reloads it. You can also access Reload (which forces a sync) from the Troubleshooting menu, which you get by holding down Cmd / Ctrl while clicking the Help menu. Does that do anything?

I don't know anything about Kindle, but I doubt that Evernote will make it possible to link to / bookmark a specific location within an attachment. But maybe I'm just being pessimistic. There are longstanding requests for link to specific sections of notes themselves, which would also be nice.

Personally, I hope that all the love that the Android app will get will be to fix bugs and leave the appearance strictly alone. It's too small a screen to "modernize" and thereby degrade readability and accessibility.

If all you want to do is organize (and maybe search) PDFs on your local computer, then Evernote in any form might be more than you need. Certainly v. 10 will want to sync everything to its servers, the point being that you can then access them on other devices. If you don't want to do that, then some kind of tool to organize things on your computer may be all you need. If I'm understanding you right.

I also like the bright colors. They don't distract me; they cheer me up a bit and maybe even encourage me as I work. The fact that Evernote is so flexible and is useful for so many different approaches to work and other activities is another good reason why we should have some selections possible in themes or stylesheets. Let there be options in colors, brightness, contrast, etc.

I looked at the demo video again, and I believe what's going on there is that the header styles are being treated as collapsible sections. It's not that the whole note becomes an "outline", but that the sections within the note can be collapsed. The book-chapter-paragraph metaphor was not particularly well chosen for this. In fact, I think that will work fairly well--people have been asking for ages that the headers do something more than just mark off sections of the text. And IMHO, given that headers can be customized for font and other formatting besides size (at least within a particular note), it may prove pretty useful. But as @Paul A. says, they're still working on it. Who knows, maybe customizable defaults for header styles will come too.

Apparently there are only 3 types of units, which are recycled. Thus the last item in your list could be referred to as 3.c.iii.3.b.v.4--accurate, but not highly elegant. Here is how one word processor handles 7 levels of an outline:

In response to a post in another forum, I just did a test in a new note, and got what you see below (in Windows desktop 10.78.2, with no notice of an update; Web app 10.78.2 shows the same thing). It's not yet collapsible, but it is proper sub-section / outline numbering.

Hi, @Greg Lang. We've been informed that, at long last, collapsible lists, with actual subsections (meaning with sub-numbers, not just 1, 2, 3) are coming to Evernote (see https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/150550-collapsible-sections-coming-to-evernote/). I wonder if you're seeing some weird test implementation of this?? Here's the place to contact support: https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action. EDIT: By "subsections" and "sub-numbers", I meant to say "outline format". I just did a test with a new note, and this is what I'm seeing, also on 10.78.2:

Take a look at this thread--is this what you're seeing?:

... because Web browsers use those shortcuts for their own purposes, e.g. Ctrl+T for a new tab.

They already have undo support. Specifically, the examples that @N Allen mentioned undo with Ctrl+Z. Even a full, accurate URL pasted from the clipboard can be converted to unlinked plain text with Ctrl+Z. Please list the examples that cannot be undone, for clarity's sake. This has been requested fairly often. Again, I find that Ctrl+Z works easily when I want a *[space] at the beginning of a line and not a bulleted list. But it could certain be added to @ferol's wishlist, if it's not there already (https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/150571-missing-features-bugs-and-wishlist-in-v10-clear-detailed-table/). Tricky, doable, would have to be prioritized--hopefully not at the top of the list. (See the preceding link for one version of "the list.")

Please be aware that these are basically user-to-user forums. To address Evernote directly email feedback@evernote.com. If you think v. 6 of Evernote was "absolutely perfect," I invite you to view its forum here (https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/225-evernote-for-windows-issues-versions-6251-and-under/). Go back to posts from 2019 or 2018 (before v. 10 was introduced) and look at all the "perfection." As for Evernote's reasons for discontinuing Legacy, they are set out here: https://evernote.com/blog/legacy-decommissioning. If I understand you correctly, you want them, "with minimal effort," to have the v. 10 data be displayed in the Legacy interface? So where would Tasks go? Or even backlinks?