Dave-in-Decatur

2 things stand out to me in this discussion. But if you suggest patience and perseverance to anyone frustrated with Evernote 10, they will curse you like a wet dog. Obsidian seems to get a lot of unearned grace by comparison. The other thing is the need to depend on 3rd-party add-ins. (If I'm understanding this correctly.) What happens if the add-in developer moves on to something else, decides they don't like Obsidian anymore, or just gets too busy to keep updating the add-in? It's a little tough to be heavily dependent on one app and its developers, like Evernote, but I'm very shy of being dependent on a developer and a community of add-in programmers who may range from committed to just hobbyists. Just my thoughts.

Please do indicate your version number and OS. In my Windows desktop app v. 10.84.3 (on Windows 10) and the Web client v. 10.86.2 (the latest, I think), the blue + sign still works fine, so you should be able to continue as you are used to doing. The annoying / hint can be disabled in the ... menu at top right in any note, under Slash commands. But I do find that the Attachment option in that popup does work.

Thanks. I'm still on 10.85.1, and I have automatic updates turned off on my phone, so I'll just wait until I have the time to deal with this to move up to 10.86.

Sounds like you may be experiencing the new experimental(?) "home screen." You can get at your real one by finding widgets on the hamburger menu, I think. Personally, I don't mind a cheery hello anywhere I can get it. But that feature does seem to wind a lot of people up.

Evernote always remembers the most recent window size and position for me.... except when it updates to a new version, and then it often plops itself in the middle of the screen at a smaller size. So I'm guessing you're seeing the result of an update.

This is very useful information, as my subscription is about to renew and I need to decide between continuing Professional or dropping to Personal. I'm feeling more Personal all the time.

Glad it was helpful. Just as a reminder to all who are missing the former functionality in the Windows app: this was not Evernote's doing; Microsoft apparently decided that in Windows 11 the system alone should be allowed to do screen grabs; or at least that Evernote should not be allowed to do so.

Thank you for dumping your thoughts on your fellow users. To actually let Evernote know: feedback@evernote.com.

Hi, and welcome to the forums. As noted previously in this thread, these are user to user spaces. To address Evernote directly: feedback@evernote.com; or https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new, and use the Feedback and feature requests button.

In Windows 10, the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Alt+S brings up the Evernote screen grabber. Define the area by dragging the crosshairs with the mouse, and it will be captured. Watch for the "Converted to note" popup at bottom right letting you know that the capture to note is complete; click on the popup to open the note. The note will be titled Screen Capture - [date, time]. Don't know why the taskbar icon isn't used anymore, but the KB shortcut works well. FYI, the complete list of shortcuts is here: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209004807-Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Evernote-for-Windows.

Hi, and welcome to the forums. Are you using Windows 11? If I recall correctly from previous discussions here, Win11 simply took over the screengrab function, and neither the keyboard shortcut nor any other means to access it will work, in Evernote or in other apps. I believe some have suggested that it's possible to direct the result of the system screengrab to be saved automatically in a particular folder; and then that folder can be designated as an import folder in Evernote.

OK, haven't got it yet, but it's good to know where to look for it. Not in urgent need of it, so I'll wait till it appears.

Does anyone know (preferably from personal experience) if Bending Spoons takes this approach with its other apps? Do users of those apps also experience sudden changes to the user interface (and therefore to usability), the sudden presence of new features that are clearly unfinished, etc.? Or is this something they are trying out with Evernote specifically?

I don't know if it has been fully implemented yet, but it was announced a week ago as "coming soon." See this thread, with various comments:

I can buy that at the bottom of a note. But why all the added internal space between lines? More comfy, more ergonomic, blah blah. But quite a number of people are not looking for a cat experience with a note-taking app: something that is comfy and cute to look at it, and completely unresponsive to your wishes. We'd rather have a dog experience: faithful, obedient, loving, and loyal. It may even be homely; but it will go get your sheep when you tell it to. Does it seem to you that they pay any attention to feedback on X?

@agsteele, I think you would know this: Is there still a beta testing program? I would think that that would be the logical venue for "work in the earliest stages of development," not a random group of increasingly mystified users. Hopefully it will have some purpose and function(s) someday, but in the meantime, seriously, isn't this what beta is for??

I'd be interested to know of a few, frankly.

Working for me in Windows 10. Sorry I can't offer anything useful.

Every. Single. Time. All they had to do was make it Alt+/. Or ^. Or |.

Bingo. First 20 "elements" are from a note that includes a Web clip and 1 attached file. The attachment is there. The other 19 are the usual sort of logos, stock photos, etc., you find on every Website. There are also svg_1 through svg_8, which display no preview or other information. There's a search feature, but it only searches filenames, not within OCRed attachments. Suggestion: Ask the person who developed this feature to take the person who decided to color internal links blue out for lunch. Then lock the building.

That's a really good, precise use situation in which the / popup is failing in its purpose. Sending it to feedback@evernote.com or https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new would be useful.

Hmm ... "bug" is hard to define precisely, or at least harder than it seems like it should be. "It works fine for me" in a different use case suggests that this is not a bug, but a different way of using the software (which doesn't work like it used to, and there we are again). "It works fine for me" on a different OS or hardware points more toward a genuine bug and a need for testing in more environments.

Thanks. That's definitely more space than what I see (also in v. 10.84.3; see screenshot below). I fear this may be another of the things they roll out to selected users at first. Supposedly that should be to collect feedback, and supposedly strong negative feedback should cause them to rethink it. Email feedback@evernote.com with your experiences and complaints. I'd avoid "You're completely destroying my work with this useless garbage" language and focus on facts and details. If you have any screenshots from an earlier time to put up next to the current ones, that would be the best way to make your point.

That was basically my experience too, which is why I only just recently got The Email. This was the first time I really considered Evernote's cost/value ratio for my use -- which could indicate a number of things, including that it was underpriced previously, so I never gave it a thought, but now it's closer to what I need to think about before paying.

I finally got The Email a few days ago: the price for my Professional subscription will change to $169.99/year, an increase of $70. It came a month before my renewal date of May 11, so plenty of time to decide. The new price is $14.17/month, $3.27/week, $0.47/day. My existing price is $8.33/month, $1.92/week, $0.27/day. 70% is a very steep rise, but the actual amounts match up well with what I myself get out of Evernote, esp. as some new features are being introduced (collapsible sections, links to sections of notes; not AI) that I will find useful. I'll also take time to compare the Professional plan and price with the Personal. The latter was updated, I think, and it might work for me to drop back to it.