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Windows? Mac?

Is the sky falling? Again? "Dire"? Really? A couple of points: Reminder notes can be arbitrarily ordered via drag/drop, at least in Evernote for Window and Android. I don't need all of my notes to be reminders, only the ones I'm most interested in at the present time, and reminders allow me to focus on just those notes. Um, I know what you're talking about here, but frankly, over 10 years of Evernote use, I haven't found much need for more than 10 or so notebooks and a couple of stacks in each of the two accounts I operate, several of which are necessitated by the need to share some groups of notes between the two accounts. If you're creating an "insane" number of notebooks, then "insane" is the operative term for this type of approach. As mentioned by @DTLow above, note links can be used to express a note hierarchy. I use this a lot, mainly to capture subsidiary notes and other information about a current bug ticket, while only needing to keep the note links in my weekly journal and other repositories of this sort of administrivia. You can even extend this to full networks (which are more expressive than simple hierarchies) if you want. That, mixed with the nice history mechanism that's present in the Windows application makes it easy for me to navigate my projects and their subprojects. ??? I use tags to categorize my notes; I don't need to categorize my tags: tags are the categories in my Evernote world. Sure, I see a case for custom metadata -- heck, I might even use it if it were present, if the search language supported it (and don't get me started on the search language), but geez, the last thing I want to do is to build a complex system to organize things down to a fare-thee-well, when what I actually need is a simple system that allows me to find things easily -- and when I say easily, I mean a search that narrows things down to a small list ("7 plus or minus 2" anyone?) where I can easily pick out what I want by eye. Evernote gives me that. Sorting is largely irrelevant to that use case. Not a big issue for me, since I use snippet view in the Windows application, where I get the first couple of lines from each note by default, after the tags. Android does this too, minus the tags.Of course, I generally use tags to express the key concepts in a note, much like keywords in a research paper. I suppose that Evernote could add a list view metadata item that's auto-populated by the first few lines of a note, but it itself edtable, a la the title field. Note that I'm not saying that Evernote can't be improved (I've made my share or suggestions over the years), but what I like about it is that it's relatively simple conceptually and has a mapping to the physical world that makes it readily understandable (the notebook/note/tag metaphor; reminders being sort of corkboard for notes, if you want to extend the metaphor). I found Notion to be difficult to get into (what is a "block", anyways?), almost unapproachable when trying to figure out where to begin. Power user weenies will love it, I suppose, and it will surely siphon off users from Evernote, but for my money, Evernote's simplicity is pretty much all I need. Would it be worth it for Evernote make non-trivial architectural changes in order to chase those types of users? Not my call. Would adding such features make Evernote harder to use for minimalists like me? It's possible, but adding more stuff almost inevitably implies adding more UI stuff, so I'm somewhat skeptical on that point. Regardless, I'm pretty certain that Evernote will survive, even continue to prosper, without adding the 5 features named above.

Thank you for your opinion; we all have them. Mine is that reminders were purpose-built to support manual sorting if that's what you want. Hardly a workaround, lame or not. Evernote's reminders work very nicely for me, thanks very much. Shortcuts and saved searches are also really handy. Of course I don't use a lot of notebooks or stacks because they tend to just get in the way. Smart people use filtering to identify relevant notes, in preference to sorting: cut down your search space enough, and sorting hardly matters. And smart people understand why something called "reverse sort" might be useful (hint, "updated date" for one). Just because there are other attributes that you might use to search/sort on (e.g. "origin app", etc.) doesn't mean that you have to use them if they confuse you. Um, maybe you should take a step back and consider that one catches flies with honey, not with trash talk. Oh, and you might also consider changing your public user name from your email address to something else, lest you become a spam target.

In Evernote, in some of the clients (Windows non-list views, Android; sadly not in the web client) you can do this by turning notes into reminder notes. Reminder notes will appear as pinned to the top of any note list they appear in, in a separate (and separately sortable) list. There are also special search parameters that can filter on specific reminder dates ("remindertime:", "reminderdonetime:", and "reminderorder:", see the search grammar: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php). I find that using reminders works much better than monkeying around with special note titles or the other date fields. YMMV...

There's no automatic sorting, nor can you point at a list and sort it by checked/unchecked, but in the Windows version at least, you can certainly drag and drop checklist items into different locations in a list, or indeed, into a separate list.

Sounds about right. Glad to hear it.

Um, think strategically and don't deny us our situational awareness by being specific about your use case for Evernote is. There is no one cheat sheet that covers every best use of Evernote. How could we possibly figure out what it useful to you unless we know what you're trying to do? Yes, I knew what cattiwampus means (however you spell it). Evernote has changed over the years, and bugs can sometimes creep in, but the Windows version? I wouldn't call it "cattiwampus": The web version, perhaps, though.

Not quite sure what you're going on about; this topic is not about Markdown.

I think that the trick here is that Evernote needs to be pointing at the correct notes database (.exb) file for it to recover the local notebooks. Check Tools / Options / General : "Open Database File" to see where it thinks that the database is. If that's not where your backed up .exb file is, then you're not going to get the local notebooks back.

Please do not "bump" topics. See the Forum Rules of Conduct, #10.Thank you.

My guess is that they actually have a fair idea of what it's costing them, and also what it would cost (time/money) to implement, and they haven't been able to do it yet because of that. But we're both guessing here, aren't we? They already have some of this in at least the Windows client; adding more would be a lot easier than implementing a full Markdown round-tripping solution (which appears to be what other folks want), and -- providing you could also disable them -- not be bothersome to those who don't need Markdown.

Workaround: share two notebooks to your users, one of which is read-only (the notes you don't waant to be modified) and one Read/Write (where they can create notes as desired).

@dconnet has posted on this a number of times -- basically, Windows shortcuts are first-come-first-served (and another program cannot then hijack them), and Win+Shift+S is now reserved for the WIndos lipping functionality. You can cange the shortcut key in options -- I use Ctrl+Alt+S, as it's easy to reach with my left hand.

Maybe no, maybe yes. For one, if the interface / user metaphor for nesting notebooks made things more complicated or cluttered, sure I'd not be happy with that. Moreover, if the time they took to accomplish nested notebooks (hint, substantial) took away from other things they're doing that I want (better search, better functional commonality across all Evernote platforms), yeah, that would probably bother me too. Flip side: I believe that I am intellectually capable of coping with the presence of nested notebook functionality. Yes.

We already know what Evernote's architecture is, at least its public face (it's changed a bit over the past 10 years, but it's largely the same): http://dev.evernote.com/doc/reference/ (feel free to inform yourself, as others have). Stacks were a bit of a hack, as there's no actual Stack data structure; it's just a name in a Notebook.If Evernote wanted to change it, they could, but it certainly would have effects downstream, and of course it would be a fair amount of work to re-architect their various applications, including their servers. That's not an excuse, just my viewpoint as a long-time developer and Evernote observer. Of course, such change could be made (and maybe yet will be, hard to tell as they're focusing, publicly, on other stuff currently), but maybe, just maybe, they don't want to do nested notebooks for aesthetic reasons. They haven't said, and I can't tell from outside, and don't spend a lot of time worrying about it. I'm just happy to have a tool that works well for me, and seems to suit a fair number of other folks. That it may not suit everyone is fine. There's plenty of room for other note keeping software out there

Horses for courses. Sometimes a "dinosaur" like a plain text editor is the exact tool required. Evernote suits my needs just fine without nested notebooks and other stuff, as it pretty much has over the last 10 years or so -- it's simple and yet expressive..If Evernote isn't working well for you, then you should by all means explore other possibilities. It's a wide world out there; thankfully there's more ice cream flavors than vanilla, too. Editorial note: is it time to merge this topic with the main request in the General Requests forum?

Merged to the referenced topic.

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209004967-How-to-create-import-folders-in-Evernote-for-Windows

The Evernote Windows application, when installed, also includes the Evernote Helper (https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005067-How-to-use-Evernote-Helper-for-quick-notes-and-screenshots), which includes a separate screen capture (or screen clipper) utility which can clip images from your Windows screen; that's what " Windows based EN Screen Clipper" refers to. It is super useful: you can clip to a new Evernote note, to the clipboard, or save the clip to a new image file on the Windows desktop. You can define an area to clip by drawing a box, or just click on a window to capture it. The screen clipper is wholly separate from the web-based clipper extension, which can only clip from web pages. It's configured in the main Evernote application: Tools / Options / Clipping, and the settings there don't have anything to do with configuring the web clipper.

Yea, you're correct -- my bad. You *can* do it in the web client, in Chrome for Windows at least: just click on an image, and you should see a resize box. If the image in in HTML content (I see this on web clips in the beta editor), then you need to enable editing on the HTML content first: click on the "HTML Content" label, and then click on the magic want icon that appears.

Note that this dialog refers to the Evernote screen clipper, not the web clipper, as far as I can tell. The web clipper doesn't talk to the Evernote Windows client; it talks to the Evernote servers.

And because the Android clipper doesn't support the "Smart Filing" or "Last Used" options that the standard web clipper does.

Appears to be sticky; at least it stuck when I tried it again on a different page. I'm OK with it being different between the client applications and the web clippers.

...another metaphoric hint that Google is taking over the world!!

I had previously moved it to the web clipper forum, as it's also a web clipper issue. It probably makes no difference, as it will be seen either way. But my experience is that the web clippers tend to be separately configurable from the applications; for example, on Windows, the web clipper doesn't appear to use the default notebook as configured in the Windows application (Tools / Options / General / Default Notebook). On Android, configuring the default web clipper notebook is not obvious, but you can do it by tapping on the web clipper "elephant" icon while it's clipping, and you can set the notebook there. It's different from the default notebook in the Android web clipper application, at least it is on my device. And that's why I consider the Evernote applications and the web clippers to be different application, and try to push web clipper problems towards the web clipper specific forums, in case they're different teams (I don't know how the teams are split up, or how the forums here are covered by Evernote staff). But it's your post, so I'll leave it alone...