Dave-in-Decatur

I was going to point to this as a possible workaround--I work kind of like @Jonesing For Prosperity and @Momogardner729, and this looked plausible. Until I tried it and discovered that, in the current version of the app, the list of Notebooks is not an option! Maybe it was in December 2015, but not now. You can choose one Notebook to display, or the most recently viewed or updated notes, but not the list of Notebooks. This really needs attention.

Yes, it's a matter of prioritizing, and of deciding what Evernote is worth among the whole set of things one wishes to use. What I object to is the assertion sometimes made that Evernote Premium is overpriced absolutely. For many people it's not; for others it is. I do regret the loss of the Plus level, though. It does seem to me that it filled a need. Evernote says it is "less popular than we thought it would be," which suggests either that the need is not large, or that they overestimated it. The fact they're framing the move as a quest for "a better solution to meet your needs" may point toward the latter.

Just two thoughts here, both of which I've expressed elsewhere, and both of which can be disputed, I'm sure. I continue to be surprised at the number of people (including some of the most helpful contributors to these forums) who are dedicated to using what I understand to be a multi-platform note-taking service for bulk cloud storage of documents, images, etc. I haven't tried to shift a lot of stuff to the cloud myself, so I'm out of the loop on this. But what makes Evernote a better candidate for that sort of thing than Dropbox, etc.? Evernote Premium costs US$70 per year, less than $6 per month. How many cups of coffee is that? How much would you spend at a café in a month to get free wifi? $70 at once is a fair amount of money for many people. But you put it on a credit card, and you can spread it out over time. It's not up to me to manage anyone else's budget. But for anything approaching professional use, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Somewhat, for purposes of dealing with bugs that have risen to emergency proportions. (Sudden sci-fi movie giant-bugs flash. ) But I'm talking about monitoring the help forum, as well as the feedback forum, to see what customers want, or more specifically, what they hate.

Really suggest monitoring the Windows Help forum for the feedback there on the astounding borks in recent releases of the Windows program. That may not affect Plus-or-no-Plus, but it does show what customers need.

Nice. I'm tempted to go back to the free version for awhile, just to see if I actually miss what I'm paying for. Yet I really believe in paying for services I use, and Evernote definitely has value for my work as well as my daily life. I so much want to just love this thing and feel good about what I'm getting for my money. It's actually just the recent foul-ups in the Windows program that concern me--and even they don't really affect me as long as I never upgrade! But the lack of QA there leaves me concerned about whether that will become a system-wide trend.

Thanks, @dbvirago. I've got a Premium subscription renewal coming up soon too, and have been thinking about Plus. I posted some remarks earlier in this thread about how the Android Evernote clipping function had gone so bad. It has been improved in recent updates--not perfect yet nor even (I think) what it once was, but no longer a deal-breaker. For me the biggest problem currently is the Windows program's declining functionality in recent upgrades. But as long as I never upgrade, I'm OK! So, I'm either happy enough or not yet aggravated enough to leave Evernote for Nimbus; but it's good to remember that there are options. I would certainly want to compare the privacy agreements before jumping.

Over the last year or so, Evernote has been working on redesigning the editor across all platforms (so I have read on posts in these forums). One hopes that ultimately this issue will get addressed in that process. But it may that in fact the older code has been ditched and the new code still hasn't been put completely right. Some updates to the Windows program (paste the ancient, well-functioning version I still use) have changed the pasting functions, but complaints about about formatting issues.

Thanks for the notification! I see that this applies to the Windows program. Do you know whether it's working in Android yet?

I'm not sure if this could be achieved through Cronofy--I think that would only sync reminders, not creation dates; but if that would help, you could create a Google or other calendar specifically for this purpose and link it to Evernote through Cronofy. Simpler solution might be to change the Note List view in Evernote itself. At the top of the Note List, to the left of the search bar, click the little down-pointing arrow. Switch to Side List, and sort by Created, and there's a list, albeit not in a tidy calendar format. Might be worth a look anyway.

Voting and requesting on this thread probably doesn't get as much attention as going to the Feedback/Feature Request forums for your specific platform(s) and voting up the requests that already exist.

@dconnet's information earlier in this thread makes it clear that WRT the spell-checker, this is not random programming issues, but the result of changing to a different underlying structure: See the other posts around that date on the same topic. I wonder whether this Chromium upgrade is responsible for a lot of the other bugs and feature degradation in recent releases. If so, I sure wish they'd have worked all this out in the background and released one big but well-functioning update rather than a series of incremental ones with all these issues.

Yes, I'd agree with that. The Android clipping interface is very bare-bones. It does allow specifying a notebook and tags, but a comment field (such as is also available in the Windows browser clipping plug-in) would be really useful. I've voted the idea up!

It still seems to be a bit hit-or-miss, but it's definitely improved. That's an impressive chart, by the way!

Does it not work for any Web page? I find that it works OK on simpler pages, though more complex ones certainly still have problems.

I updated to v. 7.17.1, and the clipping is better than it was before, but still has problems with complex pages. It seems that they are working on it, and gradually getting it fixed. The post from @StuartG gives some background:

Evernote has put an icon in the system tray for as long as I have used it (I have the setting @dconnet refers to turned on). It can occasionally be handy for restarting the Evernote interface, or for exiting EN completely. But it's never required me to click on that icon to start EN. If @TK0047 and @dconnet's suggestions don't fix it, you might try restarting the computer, and in desperation even reinstalling Evernote (after having backed up any local notebooks). But hopefully you won't have to go that far.

I use the add-on that @jefito has linked to, and it works OK. It installs some new options into the right-click menu (Forward to Evernote, Forward to Evernote with Reminder). If you choose Reminder, you can then choose to set a notification date (but not time). You'll need to set the add-on's options, including your mail-to-Evernote address, in the Thunderbird Add-ons Manager. The one thing that can be somewhat inconvenient is that if you want to specify a notebook other than your default notebook, you need to set that option in the Manager every time you change notebooks. For my limited usage, it's been very convenient overall, though. It's certainly worth looking at. BTW, it also includes a forward-to-OneNote feature.

@Shane D., thanks very much. It's helpful to realize that EN techs themselves didn't isolate the problem until recently. I just think that should have been reported as soon as it was known; certainly there should have been a response to this thread. Yet I understand that you all certainly don't want to communicate premature or inaccurate information. [Rant]And, frankly, I should have known that Google was at the bottom of it. Putting even one egg in Google's basket is asking for trouble. Google Calendar, though it has improved recently, is the parade example of a Google resource whose users, more or less forced to use it, have made complaints and feature requests about for years before anything gets done.[/EndRant]

@StuartG, thank you so much for pursuing this and reporting your results here! It is indeed extremely helpful to know what's going on, even if it's not a solution. As I read this, two questions came to my mind: What the is a "Chromium depreciation"? A bear market in certain commodities futures? Or an elaborate euphemism for a deliberate trashing of features in Chromium, brought about by its open-source-yet-vaguely-Google-related community of programmers, on whom (it seems) all our data and workflow now depend? Why the didn't Evernote TELL US about this when it happened? What is their communication policy (if they have one)? "Tell nobody anything unless their work gets damaged so badly they holler about it?" Any communication at all, e.g., in the Play Store release notes, would have been so helpful and prevented so much needless frustration and lost time and work! What possible reason can there be for withholding this information (unless letting people know that Chromium is about to bork their work gets EN itself in trouble)? I'm not just venting about this--I want to know. @Shane D., I'm lookin' at you. Not your fault, but I'm asking you.

Same here. IMHO, the price increase got the Premium product closer to what it's actually worth, to me at least.

Thanks from me too. If they don't get clipping straightened (back!) out in Android pretty soon, I'll look in to this.

That is interesting, given the current state of Evernote's Android clipping. Nimbus can import .enex. Can it also export it? IOW, could I clip something in Android Nimbus, and then in Windows export it and import into Evernote? Clunky, but I don't think, based on your very helpful report, I see anything in Nimbus that would compel me to leave EN altogether.

Thanks for this explanation. I don't know how Evernote's programming and updating processes work, of course, so this might be a nonstarter, but it seems like doing a parallel development process on CEFv3, with nothing released until the product was fully functional with no features removed, might have been preferable. As I say, uttered out of ignorance.

Thanks, Jeff. That's what I suspected. Which means that my well-developed plain-text user dictionary from my word processor probably won't be able to be merged with the new Evernote user dictionary when it appears, and I'll be adding words one at a time. Sigh.