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  1. Anyhow, it's all good now -- at least as good as it was before -- thanks to the folks in this forum. Also, just now I have another reason to be thankful. I discovered minutes ago that the graphics had somehow disappeared from a project page I was working on (probably my goof) and was able to quickly import a previous version with them intact. Evernote has it s frustrations, but there are plenty of good points, too. I'd really love to see a full featured word processor-like editor, though. I guess these betas with table changes are the beginning. Legacy notes may be an issue though, as I found out.
  2. It appears you are right. Evernote_6.5.4.4720.exe is the version offered for download on the website. I don't recall how I wound up with the beta, but it changed any tables I viewed while it was installed. I can edit the old tables now,after reverting, but the cell outlines disappeared. Yes, Windows. Never had a problem this bad before. Anyhow I am able to use tables again and should watch out |I don't enable betas. Frankly, IMO, they should probably carry a warning -- in red.
  3. The problem version is the current release, not beta although perhaps it should be beta.
  4. Thanks. As mentioned previously... > I'm currently using Prelease on my Win10 (1703) 64-bit laptop. That is no longer the case. I downloaded version and installed it. In the process I had to uninstall the newer version and, believe it or not, it took my database with it as far as I can tell and my data had to synced again. Oh, well. Anyhow I have a version that works acceptably and will avoid upgrades in the future. I really don't have time to play with software. I need software that does not surprise me by sending me untested upgrades that are not backward compatible with my existing data and does not convert automatically to the current format.
  5. OK. Thanks. That would help if I knew which version brought on the problems and what I was using before, but I don't see a list of versions in order anywhere with changes shown for each. That would make it easy to go back. Maybe. I have no idea which version I was using before Evernote wrecked my tables.
  6. >Try searching for filehippo evernote on the web. Thanks. I see a list of potential versions, but I have no idea at which version Evernote tables went off the rails, though. I'm just an Evernote user, and not normally at all interested in such matters. Does anyone know where the trouble began? I never know what version I am using or which I just replaced until I have to find out at a time like this. I also wonder how these changes could be released without anyone knowing the havoc they would cause with existing notes.Am I the only one who is observing this? There must be others. > On the Win/Mac platforms, release notes are posted in the forums with a link to the download I search for the version I want to download Thanks. I have no idea what that means and the link did not take me anywhere I could see what I need. I'm just a longtime user, not someone who wants to ever have write in forums about Evernote. Coming here in hopes of restoring a function I relied on to where my historical notes are not distorted is just an act of desperation and not something I have much time for. I am noticing a general trend in software to over-improve a working product that has been simple, straightforward and useful to where it becomes problematic to its core user base.
  7. How do I find an older version? I find this version un-usable and don't see older versions anywhere on the Evernote site. Long ago, EN used to keep old setups in a folder on my computer, but currently I don't see any way to revert, and I am going to have to.
  8. I'm currently using Prelease on my Win10 (1703) 64-bit laptop. Tables have been an important feature in my note keeping. Up until now, Evernote's tables, as with the formatting of notes generally has been quite primitive and quirky, but mostly useable. After installing recent updates, however, I found the outlines and table attributes stripped from my large tables. Selecting the blocks shows outlines are still there somehow, but I am unable to use them or edit them as tables. Since that data is historical, needing to edit existing table contents should not be a big issue. So, to continue adding, I inserted a new table below. That worked fine until I found I could not insert new rows below. The function is there, in the right-click menu. I just does not do anything. So, I decided to insert another new table below. When I did that, the rest of the note disappeared. Fortunately, Ctrl+Z worked! and restored my data. Many times, in EN, Ctrl+Z does not work, but this time it did. Thank Goodness. Anyhow, I applaud any attempt to improve EN as an editor and to enhance the tables function, but I am very worried if changes are not backward compatible with existing notes. I wonder if reverting to an older version of EN would restore my tables and previous editing capabilities?
  9. I have the sync set to 15 minutes on my notebooks (EN starts with the GUI) and have no idea how the mobile version works. It sure does not seem to work the way I would expect any time I have used it. I don't use it much. When I noticed the note had disappeared, I turned off sync on the notebook and checked the web, but it appeared that the note was gone there, too.
  10. Thanks, folks, I don't know what happened, but the merged and disappeared note appeared again, just like magic! It is where it should be and looks the way it looked when it disappeared. It definitely had disappeared, but it is back. In the meantime, I was out and I created a new note on my phone while out. hen I returned a while later, I was puzzled that it did not appear on my notebook machine when I looked, but now it is here -- and so is the missing note. Mysteries!
  11. Thanks. I actually just installed on a new computer and becasue I pay for data, I simply copied the database across to the new machine to save a big download, so I understand that. I also have a local backup, BUT, who wants to do all that for one note that should never have disppeared in the first place? After all, it was not even in the notebook I deleted! I had moved it out! The note was a 'to do' list, and I'm half-glad that it is gone and I can't remember half the chores I have been saving up. Should I start a new list, headed by "spend an hour recovering the 'to do' list and another hour fixing the mistakes that happen in the process?" My point, I guess, is that I was beginning to trust EN again, and it threw me a curve. I KNOW the note was no longer in the notebook I deleted ans was shown as being in the proper notebook.
  12. Happy that Evernote has been working flawlessly for quite a while and the growing pains seem to be gone. However, today I could not find a note and I found that EN had added a conflicted folder and had moved a copy of the note into it on each of two machines. It seems that somehow I had conflicted copies. Of course my first reaction was to look for a 'note comparison' function to determine any differences. I found none, so I moved the notes back into the proper notebook and merged them, intending to check for differences manually. For neatness, I then deleted the now-empty "conflicted" notebook, emptied the trash, and went to the proper notebook to edit the combined note. It was gone. No worries, I thought, I have a subscription, so there should be a backup. Apparently not. There are backups for non-deleted notes, but if there are backups for deleted notes, I cannot find it. Shouldn't there be? A search through the knowledge base and the forum, I saw nothing.
  13. Oh, yeah. ...And where did I discover that the Android ap is so lame? After I was seated on a plane for a four-hour flight and expected to open a mission-critical note. Up until then, when I tested the ap, I had been connected and only noticed that EN seemed slow retrieving notes. At that point, the penny dropped. When you landed, do you think my first instinct was to rush off the plane and send Evernote $45? Do you think I am at all happy at this betrayal? Not one bit.
  14. I looked at the other thread and it is interesting that people who take the effort to try to explain a less than satisfactory experience get beat up. I would have expected that people who are trying to explain a bad or disappointing -- or puzzling experience -- would be very important because many companies get so busy making excuses to themselves and listening to their fans that they fail to realise what noobs and potential upgraders are experiencing and lose the market to better marketers with inferior products. How else did Windows ever get where it is when there was already Unix and O/S2? Bill Gates is credited with saying "If they are going to steal software, I'd rather they stole mine". He understood the importance of mindshare. Others did not. That is why I quit posting here a while back and only came back because as much as I like many things about the Windows V4 version, I suddenly found a number of subtle problems in a program I had come to trust to behave predictably and thought I'd see if I was the only one. On top of that, I finally bit the bullet recently and bought a Galaxy Tab, and was pleased to see an Evernote ap for it. I downloaded the ap and ran it and was quite frankly shocked at it's lack of features and inability to maintain offline notes. That was a second black eye for EN in my mind in a few weeks -- and looked like a cynical attempt to extort money, after building my trust over time. Frankly $45 is not a lot of money to pay for a polished ap that works perfectly on one's various machines, but in the Android market, it is 'way high, especially since the 'demo' Android ap seems so primitive and crippled to those of us familiar to the desktop version (which also seems to be full of new surprises periodically). I hear some crying about money and the need to eat. To me that reflects a misunderstanding of what this is all about. From my point of view this is not about money. People *give* money to worthy causes and I've donated more than EN is demanding to developers of software that I especially value and who don't hold me up for it. People willingly pay hundreds of dollars for tablets and phones and laptops, so they have money to spend (or had). Moreover, people are actually quite generous unless they feel pressured or tricked. So, if EN is desperate and feels the need to mug users when they step into Android Alley, maybe EN has not been asking the right people in the right way, or the right amount. IMO, someone in marketing, if there is anyone there, needs to be fired, and soon. Here is some perspective: I had some sync problems and discussed them with support. They were shocked at how small my database was/is. They assumed it was gigabytes. It was a few megabytes. I don't have many pictures or notes. Maybe 400 notes right now, and I clean them out from time to time. I'm not much of a burden, I'm guessing, if you don't count having to read my contibutions on this board periodically. (BTW, In checking my dB I see that Evernote has -- apparently -- left almost 1 GB of old and apparently useless updates on my drive, and maybe an old dB? What gives? Maybe it is not just marketing that needs a tune-up). Here's how I have been thinking: Personally, I decided some time back that if I came close to the max on my EN account I would upgrade, but, so far, I have never come close, so I'm thinking that step is too high seeing as it seems you are finding that people aren't upgrading. (The current pricing approach sets a psychological target point in our minds, and because the next step is a relatively big one, we may never upgrade). Seems to me that there should be more levels of subscription, starting with lower usages and smaller fee steps -- and rewards. I know it is a hassle to make it a little more complex, but that is how you make money from happy people. Your price is not unreasonble, it just strikes people that way because of how it is presented. Somehow seems more like punishment for reaching a level of usage and encouragement to reduce usage than a privilege or pay per unit of usage charge. Something else: People who have access to perfect, cheap, always present, very fast Internet have no clue how the rest of us live. Even if Evernote were free at all levels of usage, we cannot afford -- or always find -- the bandwidth to exploit that generosity. If some are paying $45 for unlimited EN, we think, howcum we have to pay the same when we can never use very much? Is it reasonable to think that way? Probably not, but that is how we think and it is strong mental a barrier to upgrading. Back to the Android ap: It seems to me to be uncomprehending and insensitive, if I can use those words to give all that is included in the desktop version, then shock established users by taking it back when they try to access what they regard as their own data placed in a trusted place, using a new (and sometimes annoying) new device. It is definitely not a good time to give them this kind of bad news -- after they have just been flim-flammed, confused and raped by the cell provider and are seeking comfort in knowing they can seek refuge in a familiar program. In the other thread, Steve said it very well at the start. I agree with him. Good surprises are good for business. Bad surprises are bad. Evernote used to have excellent word of mouth, but many of us are now somewhat reluctant to recommend EN to people who might remember and remind us after the next surprise. If you want a mass market and if free usage is a burden, then reduce the paid threshold, don't cripple some of the access. Charge by the GB or some such thing, in a transparent and reasonable way. Consider grandfathering existing data if you expect a squawk. Consider secure access for all users for your own sake before accounts get compromised and you read about EN security problems in the news. Provide offline storage as part of all packages and aps just for common sense reasons, and analyse your users and what each class of user costs you. Figure out how to get the heavy users to pay. They are not necessarily your best customers or the ones who give you good word of mouth. That 20% of your users probably are 80% of the variable costs you worry about and the other 80% of the users are only 20% -- if the usual rules hold. Your free users, as long as they are satisfied, are your best advertising, and I'm betting that most of them cost you next to nothing. FWIW: A nickel's worth of free advice Excuse me if I sound grumpy. I am.
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