Popular Post AndyDent 113 Posted April 30 Popular Post Share Posted April 30 (edited) Somewhere in 10.86.4 or recent desktop version, someone had a bright idea. The default behaviour for about the last 12 years or so has been that hyperlinks to external URLs are shown in the usual blue and links to internal Evernote content are shown in green. I write a lot of content and I clip a lot more in Evernote and it's important for me to know that I've referred to an internal piece. Now, either kind of link is shown in blue. (I thought it was only when you add new links but it is worse - all existing links to Evernote content are shown in blue - it's a choice in the rendering engine. It should therefore be fairly easy for them to fix but they have to choose to do so.) It's infuriating and slow having to change the appearance every time I paste in an internal link. If I'm not already in Edit mode, changing a link is a click and awkward mouse movement to get to a Text Colour menu. Edited May 1 by AndyDent confirm is all existing internal links, not just new ones 14 Link to comment
Dobby 14 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 @AndyDent This is one of the dumbest moves yet. In '23 I came close to not renewing Evernote after ~10 years. Recently I was finally warming up again to Evernote based on the efforts they've been making to correct the horrible overhaul of the app. But this change is ridiculous. Who's the genius that made this decision, and what's the logic behind it? I think they're TRYING to go out of business! [Note: Unfortunately similar threads were started in platform-specific Discussion Groups tho I think this is a "General" / Across the board topic so I'll post links to those here in hope the volume of responses results in the stupidity of the decision being recognized & reversed by the ivory tower gang over at Evernote]: 5 1 1 Link to comment
ForestD 1,541 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 For many of us it was a quality of life feature to have internal links distinguishable from external links, but apparently at Bending Spoons it is purely a UI aesthetic and they think it looks better to be the same as external links? Just a guess as they've made no mention of this change publicly or in the release notes as far as I'm aware. 2 1 Link to comment
Dobby 14 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 17 minutes ago, Boot17 said: For many of us it was a feature and quality of life to have internal links distinguishable from external links, but apparently at Bending Spoons it is purely a UI aesthetic and they think it looks better to be the same as external links? Just a guess as they've made no mention of this change publicly or in the release notes as far as I'm aware. Absolutely. I'm hoping it was just an[other] oversight. 1 Link to comment
enfan-01 113 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 It's yet another unbelievably stupid decision & implementation from BS!!!!!! Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted April 30 Level 5 Share Posted April 30 It is yet another unbelievably …. posting from … Anybody can fill in the dots to his liking. Do you really think this adds anything to this thread ? What I regard as stupid is the exaggeration in dealing with a plain 1st world problem. It’s the sort of problem you don’t have while you have real problems. Personally I would like to get the green links back. So I send a polite message at this link, and be done: feedback@evernote.com 3 Link to comment
Thorz 125 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, PinkElephant said: Personally I would like to get the green links back. So I send a polite message at this link, and be done: feedback@evernote.com I have also submitted this case as feedback to the support team creating a case ticket, but I am extremely concerned that I have not received any responses on at least five additional support cases over the past six months. I am very disappointed with their current approach to customer support, it appears to be completely neglected 5 1 Link to comment
kkarney 146 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 19 hours ago, Thorz said: I have also submitted this case as feedback to the support team creating a case ticket, but I am extremely concerned that I have not received any responses on at least five additional support cases over the past six months. I am very disappointed with their current approach to customer support, it appears to be completely neglected Yes, EN support is the worst I've ever seen. Which is part of the reason so many of us come on this forum to complain, even though it does no good and we get scolded by Pink Elephant. 1 Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted May 1 Level 5 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, kkarney said: … even though it does no good and we get scolded by Pink Elephant. Asking for it ? Doesn‘t happen when ordered. 1 Link to comment
Tertey 2 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 You may ask about green internal links in here → link 1 1 Link to comment
Thorz 125 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 5/5/2024 at 6:48 PM, Tertey said: You may ask about green internal links in here → link Done. But do BS actually read that feedback? 2 Link to comment
Mike P 2,988 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 27 minutes ago, Thorz said: Done. But do BS actually read that feedback? Who knows. Reading does not necessarily mean they will do something about it - either because they deem it to be low priority or they actively don't want to change it. Sometimes, but very rarely these days, they will even respond to issues raised in the forums. 1 Link to comment
kflores 7 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Just another long-time Evernote Premium user. I was surprised at this change and have waited a while to see how I'd feel. I'm really missing the differentiation between Evernote links and external links! I'm very organized in cross-linking, so this is driving me nuts. 3 1 Link to comment
Kaspar 14 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I hope the elephant doesn't turn blue without asking. 1 1 Link to comment
megb 6 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 +1(thousand!) to this! I also used to really love that internal links to other notes were distinguishable from weblinks. Reeeeeally hoping that they'll switch it back. (Or at least give us the option to do it via a setting or something) 2 Link to comment
FredJ 62 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 On 4/30/2024 at 8:47 AM, Dobby said: @AndyDent This is one of the dumbest moves yet. In '23 I came close to not renewing Evernote after ~10 years. Recently I was finally warming up again to Evernote based on the efforts they've been making to correct the horrible overhaul of the app. But this change is ridiculous. Who's the genius that made this decision, and what's the logic behind it? I think they're TRYING to go out of business! [Note: Unfortunately similar threads were started in platform-specific Discussion Groups tho I think this is a "General" / Across the board topic so I'll post links to those here in hope the volume of responses results in the stupidity of the decision being recognized & reversed by the ivory tower gang over at Evernote]: Bring back, OH bring BACK, oh bring back my green links to US, to US Bring back, OH bring BACK, oh bring back my green links to US Link to comment
enfan-01 113 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Does anyone know WHY they did this insane act? Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted May 16 Level 5 Share Posted May 16 Maybe they have a bet open in the team which change will provoke the highest number of insane forum posts ?! Sort of devs "Forum Bingo" 🤣 Link to comment
FredJ 62 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 16 minutes ago, PinkElephant said: Maybe they have a bet open in the team which change will provoke the highest number of insane forum posts ?! Sort of devs "Forum Bingo" 🤣 Maybe they could at least have a place where they explain some of their sane and their crazy logic... Link to comment
mackid1993 1,329 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, PinkElephant said: Maybe they have a bet open in the team which change will provoke the highest number of insane forum posts ?! Sort of devs "Forum Bingo" 🤣 I would imagine someone over there is getting a kick out of this... probably why you don't see Evernote staff post here any more and on Twitter instead. Link to comment
enfan-01 113 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Maybe we should all start telling the TRUTH about Nevernote on more places like Twitter, Facebook & YouTube!!! Link to comment
mackid1993 1,329 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 5 minutes ago, enfan-01 said: Maybe we should all start telling the TRUTH about Nevernote on more places like Twitter, Facebook & YouTube!!! Have fun. It's not perfect, nothing is but I'd rather not waste my time doing that. 1 Link to comment
enfan-01 113 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I scrolled thru the comments of one of their 'what's new' youtube videos & couldn't find a single one that had even a hint of reality: They were all praising it. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't put too much faith in the real truth about this app actually getting out there (at least on that medium). Link to comment
mackid1993 1,329 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 13 minutes ago, enfan-01 said: I scrolled thru the comments of one of their 'what's new' youtube videos & couldn't find a single one that had even a hint of reality: They were all praising it. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't put too much faith in the real truth about this app actually getting out there (at least on that medium). I think your reality is very different from mine. 1 Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted May 16 Level 5 Share Posted May 16 It often leads into a nonsensical discussion when people start talking about „the real truth“. Usually it is the point when there is cognitive dissonance - like the guy driving in the wrong direction on the highway, wondering why all the others move in that dangerous direction. You just need to be convinced your truth is the absolute one. 1 Link to comment
Tertey 2 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/7/2024 at 11:44 AM, Thorz said: Done. But do BS actually read that feedback? They implemented 50% of what I wrote on this link. But it could be a simple coincidence :) Link to comment
wav 3 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/15/2024 at 8:24 PM, enfan-01 said: I scrolled thru the comments of one of their 'what's new' youtube videos & couldn't find a single one that had even a hint of reality: They were all praising it. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't put too much faith in the real truth about this app actually getting out there (at least on that medium). They moderate their comments and delete poor comments about them. Link to comment
wav 3 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Have they made any statement into fixing this issue? It really messes up making any workflow when you cant differentiate blue hyperlinks vs green backlinks. Link to comment
MvdH 490 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/16/2024 at 3:51 AM, FredJ said: Maybe they could at least have a place where they explain some of their sane and their crazy logic... Like Federico does on X? Or do you mean something different? Link to comment
MvdH 490 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I love this thread by the way. I have problems with recurring notes re-appearing too early. Or when checked of in Android they re-appear just 2 seconds, causing me to click the wrong tasks. I dearly miss sorting on tags column, so that I can use my own TSW variant of GTD correctly. I get hindered by copy-pasting text from Outlook to Evernote, and then images appear as "Unitled" unusable attachment. I suffer from tickets getting closed and when asking for an update to ask to resend ALL my ticket with logs/images, etc..... For me this thread about the color change of clickable URL links is my ultimate goal for happiness with Evernote. I totally do not mean to mock you, I hope you don't read it like that. I can totally understand this being really annoying and hindering your muscle-memory and convention-conformity/expectations of ANY software. It's a bit like EVERY day I am annoyed that some windows do close when pressing Escape button, and some don't... The ones I use most seem not to close on Escape, breaking ANY application convention, and short circuiting my brain every hour. That's probable what the green URL links is for you. But if these kind of cosmetic problems (like line spacing) become my biggest problems, then I'm a happy camper! It gives me hope. Link to comment
tired and disappointed 672 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Bending Spoons' staff seems unfortunately too inexperienced to be aware of the fact that changes they play with can have a very negative impact on others. 1 Link to comment
ferol 530 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Guys... I admire your patience and faith that these things will be fixed in a reasonable amount of time... I'm already burnt out and I've stopped dealing with it.. I'm gradually reducing my work in Evernote 1 Link to comment
tired and disappointed 672 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 39 minutes ago, ferol said: Guys... I admire your patience and faith that these things will be fixed in a reasonable amount of time... I'm already burnt out and I've stopped dealing with it.. I'm gradually reducing my work in Evernote The same here: gradually moving my stuff away. At the moment active use of Evernote requires too many work-arounds, and constant checking if features are working or not. Too difficult, too time consuming, too unsure... 4 1 Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted May 19 Level 5 Share Posted May 19 To go back to the start: The links have not entirely changed color. When hovering over them, the internals show as green, and the externals remain blue. Link to comment
FredJ 62 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, PinkElephant said: To go back to the start: The links have not entirely changed color. When hovering over them, the internals show as green, and the externals remain blue. It just baffles me as to what great reason there was to do that Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,863 Posted May 20 Level 5 Share Posted May 20 If you are in need for a reason, pick one yourself: It was Friday, and still 2 hours to fill. So let’s take out some unused code. It was Monday, and no agenda for the week. Time for a small UI rework. My boss asked me to do something noticeable. So I did. Happy now ? Link to comment
Mike P 2,988 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 9 hours ago, FredJ said: It just baffles me as to what great reason there was to do that It's all about corporate image. Bending spoons have been slowly and surely removing green from the app. They could of course have replaced the green with a different colour but chose to simplify it by making all links the same. Link to comment
Thorz 125 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 There is still plenty of green in the marketing material, for instance on the website, starting with the logos. Generally speaking, a rebranding change like the one you describe starts with the marketing side where changes are pretty easy to implement. Link to comment
Thorz 125 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/19/2024 at 9:09 AM, MvdH said: Like Federico does on X? Or do you mean something different? He doesn’t talk about all the issues there. In socials, they just cherry-pick the topics they discuss. For example, they haven’t even acknowledged that they have removed pinch-to-zoom from the mobile apps, a change that is much more functionally critical than the changing of the color of the internal links. 1 Link to comment
Jon/t 1,669 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 49 minutes ago, Thorz said: For example, they haven’t even acknowledged that they have removed pinch-to-zoom from the mobile apps Just opened a note on the Android app and I can pinch to zoom just fine. You up to date. Link to comment
Thorz 125 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 17 minutes ago, Jon/t said: Just opened a note on the Android app and I can pinch to zoom just fine. You up to date. Thank you for posting this!!!!! Pinch-to-zoom is back on v10.88.0 in iOS too! This painted a smile in my face. I, as thousands of other users are hugely dependent on this accessibility function. Link to comment
FarisIsHere 1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 bring back the green for internal links please. 1 Link to comment
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