Paul A.

I briefly looked at UpNote but quickly rejected it; far too many red flags. A cloud-based note taking app, at least for me, requires an intimate level of trust. I am going to use the app to store information that (despite surely being of no interest to anyone else) is of importance to me. I need to trust that my data will be stored securely, privately, and (because migrating is a pain) that the company will be around for the long haul. UpNote fails on every one of these dimensions.

I've thought about this before but haven't found a great solution. As PinkElephant mentioned, the software that came with my Canon scanner (for macOS) does not support OCR. There is higher-end Canon software which supposedly does, but Canon said it didn't come with my scanner. If there's a way to get that software for my Canon scanner I would be interested, but beyond that, I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for good scanning software that's likely to a) support Canon MFPs and b) do OCR on-the-fly?

Some good discussion in this thread. What I'm looking forward to is seeing Bending Spoons articulate their vision for Evernote. It will be interesting to see whether and how much their vision differs from the vision Ian Small has been outlining in his blog posts and occasional interviews. It will also be interesting to see whether Small leaves Evernote the day the acquisition closes or whether he sticks around for a while, and same with some of the other Evernote leadership.

I suspect that many of the original major evangelizers of Evernote, back when it was breaking new ground, got frustrated when Evernote development slowed to molasses and moved to more modern apps which promised new innovations, apps like Notion and Roam and such. Of course, many users stuck with Evernote, and I'm sure they've added new users as well during that time as well. From the perspective of someone who moved on years ago, Evernote might be an afterthought, even if they still have millions of paying users. Assuming they continue regular product updates... I'm not very familiar with their two main apps, but my impression was they were purchased in a fairly mature state and have had their prices increased substantially. It would be interesting to know whether development has continued on those apps and whether development resources have grown or shrunk since their acquisitions. For everyone planning to stick with Evernote (as am I, for now), I'm curious as to how you would response to price increases and curtailment of the "free" tier. As I've said upthread, I think that's the #1 near-term risk with this acquisition.

Not just Windows, folks on Android and Linux as well. I'm a very happy Mac and Android user, personally. Cross-platform support is a critical feature for me. Actually, the reason I switched to Evernote in the first place > 10 years ago is because I switched to Mac and EverNote didn't have a Mac version at the time. I like what I've see of the product, but sadly, Apple-only software isn't a good fit for me. Like I wrote further upthread, I have some concerns about the acquisition, but I'm going to wait and see how it plays out. For all its faults and flaws, Evernote has a combination of features, capabilities, and scale that's proven difficult for other companies to replicate.

Glad to see more people advocating for this! The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so the more people who raise this issue the higher the chance of seeing some action on it. While I'm at it, there are a few other folks who also indicated they may be interested in this issue on the beta thread from 2020-2021, so I'll ping them here in case they want to centralize additional feedback here so it's all in one thread: @Roy Douglas @Chriswaterguy @Rulesr4rookies By the way, I actually first raised this issue almost a year earlier, before Evernote v10 for Android ever released. (I was in the beta program then.) An Evernote staff member (Hector C.) finally acknowledged the bug in December of 2020 (after v10 for Evernote had already gone live). He gave just a single update, in March, 2021: Sadly, more than a year and a half later and nothing (with respect to this issue) has changed.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I've repeatedly logged this bug as well. Like you, I've got tech support to acknowledge it (and an employee in the forums also acknowledged it), but absolutely no indication on when it might get fixed. I'm hoping that once the sync changes land it will free up lots of resources for things like this, but who knows.

Yes. Drag and drop is fine (I like dragging and dropping!) but compared to the convention that many (admittedly smaller) note-taking apps seem to be settling on, it's pretty basic. For example, take a look at the animated gifs and associated explanation on this page that I randomly searched for: https://notejoy.com/help/note-links I doubt they got a big payday. Bending Spoons raised about $300M in funding a month ago, and it's doubtful it all went to Evernote (let's see if Bending Spoons announces any additional acquisitions next year - if they do, that's a pretty good indication that they paid less than $300M for Evernote.) Evernote was once valued at over $1B, so at least one round of investors took a major haircut. Completely unsubstantiated, but the $300M number could be significant in another way. Someone in the anonymous Blind forums claimed to be a former Evernote employee and at the time they left, employees wouldn't see a cent if Evernote ever sold for less than about $300 - $350M. Perhaps this was adjusted to be more favorable to employees since then, or perhaps it was made more favorable as a condition of the sale, but either way I doubt many employees are getting a big payday. As for why the major outside investors voted to accept this deal? That's a bit puzzling, to me. I can hypothesize two overlapping scenarios: With the massive tightening of the easy money spigots worldwide, investors wanted to unlock some of their money (which has been locked up for many years) for use elsewhere Despite the strides Evernote has made over the last couple of years, the investors didn't believe that a valuable IPO would be attainable anytime soon. I imagine we'll know roughly how much, someday. It will leak, or Bending Spoons will have to file some obscure financial disclosure somewhere in Europe which will be discovered. That said, I don't see why anyone would purchase EN for their underlying technology and with no intention of carrying the service forward. Evernote uses Google Cloud infrastructure and licenses many other many components of technology. They don't seem to have any highly sophisticated technology. What they have is millions of loyal paying users, and millions more of non-paying users who nonetheless use Evernote enough that they might be convinced to pay*. That's only worth money if they keep the service active. *For what it's worth, my biggest short-to-medium-term concern related to the acquisition is that the new owner will be very aggressive about monetizing the service with new, more expensive tiers, and perhaps a substantially reduced "free" tier.

I don't use GTD, but I also encounter the slowness with a search updating to reflect a newly tagged note, and I similarly find it quite frustrating. It used to take even longer in the early days of v10, but it's still far from snappy. I've said it many times before, but the pre-v10 on desktop would update virtually instantly, and it felt magical. Lots of other improvements in v10, but this in particular is a big step backwards.

Thank you for sharing this and for being a conduit for sharing more information from the Evernote team in the forums. I'm happy that iOS users are getting useful functionality related to Widget support. Is Evernote going to go back and finish widget support for Android now? 🤔 I just updated to v10.43 for Android, and there's been no improvement. If you get a chance, would appreciate if you could nudge someone on this. It's functionality that exists in the legacy app and is very useful. More details (including pictures) in the thread below: And while I'm grousing about the Android app, I just want to mention once again that 10.43 still doesn't fix the Gboard capitalization bug:

v10.43 just arrived for mobile and issue remains.

v10.43 just arrived for mobile and bug remains.

I'm hoping the long-planned overhaul of the Evernote sync architecture is getting closer. I have a feeling that certain bugs or classes of bugs are possibly waiting for some deep architectural work to complete, so hopefully that day is drawing near.

I like the OP's suggestions. The audio capabilities in Evernote have taken a step back in v10 and could use some improvement. Even a minor change to make saving of audio files more reliable and less likely to result in a total loss would be very welcome. A few (maybe 3-4) years ago, Evernote acquihired someone who was working on a voice to text transcription service that could support and recognize multiple speakers, and I was excited about the possibility of integrating this technology into Evernote. There was even an Evernote technical blog post [Edit: found the link!] that hinted about a vision of supporting business meetings (e.g. recording, auto-transcribing, and making searchable team meetings, perhaps with the audio synced to shared notes being made collaboratively by the team). But then the Evernote leadership changed, a new direction was set, and none of that came to pass. Just in case it is helpful @José Adriano, I will say that the Google Recorder app (which, as far as I know, is restricted to Pixel 3 and above phones) provides excellent on-device audio recording and transcription. It even supports multiple speaker transcription in the latest version (possibly limited to Pixel 7), which is a pretty advanced feature that until now requires expensive third-party apps. Optionally, you can backup your recordings in Google Drive, as you currently do with your app. It also allows sharing the transcription, the audio file, or simply a link to the audio and transcription into other apps including Evernote. Importantly, the audio format is a format that can be played directly within Evernote both on desktop and on Android. It's not as slick as if Evernote did this all natively, but in the meantime, if you have or one day consider switching to a Pixel phone, I would check out the Recorder app.

FYI Dave, Google doesn't monetize your content on Docs, Drive, Photos, Gmail, or similar, so there's no privacy implication in storing information there instead of on Evernote. See, for example: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/10381817 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/10375054

I just went to Disqus.com on a desktop browser, logged in and went to my profile, then used the web clipper and it saved a very nice copy of my recent comments. Give that a try and see if that meets your needs?

For anyone interested in the technical details, I posted some links that go into why this is breaking on Windows 7 in the below comment:

Unfortunately, TIFF images are not supported in Chromium, and thus probably not supported in Electron (which is based on Chromium). And since Evernote v10 on desktop is based on Electron, that is probably why TIFF images are not viewable inside Evernote v10.

The latest version of Electron (software used by desktop Evernote) updated some components which no longer support Windows 7. This is technically fixable, but Win7 is so old that there is very little enthusiasm for doing so (see links below), and even if it happens, it's going to be temporary at best before another software component is updated and breaks on Windows 7. Also note that Evernote officially requires Windows 10 per their system requirements page. I would suggest it's time to consider upgrading to a newer OS. https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/35219 https://github.com/bugsnag/bugsnag-js/issues/1783 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/pull/159546 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/158362

I agree it's annoying and should be improved. It's supposedly on the roadmap for 2022 as indicated in the CEO Update from January:

I think the OP means all the sites which have converted their thumbnails and images to .webp. It's supposedly particularly efficient with thumbnails, and on a large site, the performance and bandwidth savings will add up.

Is it only unofficially supported? Because it does seem to work for me, albeit with occasional glitches. I don't save a lot of images, but I've run into some occasional issues with a webp image not creating a thumbnail, or sometimes refusing to render at all in the note on one platform, yet displaying just fine on another. I know you're not a fan of Google, but don't let that blind you to the benefits. It's a much better file format in many ways than the ancient gif, jpg, and png image formats which currently dominate the web. All browsers support webp. Squarespace and Wix already convert uploaded images to webp by default, and Wordpress (the dominant blog hosting software) is about to start doing the same thing in their next software release. When they do, webp should quickly become ubiquitous. Hopefully Evernote will iron out any remaining glitches before then. And speaking of image formats, just so you don't think I'm a Google shill, there's an even better image format coming called AVIF, based on the AV1 video codec. AVIF is supported by a consortium of all the big tech companies called AOMedia. It takes a long time to make the transition to a new image format, so webp is a good stepping stone before AVIF takes over.

FYI @silverado, my experience is that sharedate:* does not reliably find all shared notes. I discussed it with a few others in the below thread over a year ago, and as far as I know nothing has changed.

I'm not aware of a keyboard shortcut, but there is an autoformat command that could be helpful. Try typing two square brackets "[" followed up "]," i.e. "[ ]" inside a note and then pressing enter. If you do this at the start of the line, it creates a checklist, and if you do it anywhere other than the start of a line, it will instead create a checkbox. If you need a checkbox at the start of a line, you can prepend any character first (e.g. type a period then the two brackets and a checkbox will be created).

I 100% agree that support is a key component of a paid subscription, and particularly with a teams subscription. One suggestion: have you tried accessing the support page via a different network (such as a mobile network on your phone, be sure to disable WiFi first)? If all else fails, I would contact them on Twitter @evernotehelps