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Tell you what -- I'll move this to the Product Feedback forum, so it can be voted up and maybe get a bit more visibility.

Uh yeah. If it actually were simple, rather than just seeming to be, they probably would have fixed it by now. But there's reality, and there's appearances. We all want better and more reliable formatting and editing. They do too. They're working on it.

Look again (I just moved this topic to a voting area)...

Helpful, but not quite the same thing...

So this feature request for stack sharing (which is the amalgamation of several separate, but similar feature requests) is now in the new Feature Requests forum, which means that you can vote for it if you would like it. Your votes may or may not be the absolute decision-maker for the implementation of the request, but they will help Evernote to gauge interest in stack sharing. I voted for it.

I'm not familiar with the Mac Evernote, so I can't help there. The Evernote search language is fairly simple as compared to a full-on search expression grammar (AND, OR, NOT, parentheses), and I think that that's intentional, as its easier to parse, and the search language is supported across a number of clients and platforms. The reference is here: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php. The essence is pretty simple, though; you start with any scope modifiers: If the query starts with either notebook:<notebook name> or stack:<stack name>, then that limits the scope of the search to either that notebook or stack. Only one of these is allowed per query. If the next thing in the query is the term any:, then that makes it an OR search; otherwise the search is an AND search After any scope modifiers, the actual search terms follow, as many as you need. These can be: Literal search terms, i.e., text searches: This is just a piece of text, possibly enclosed in double-quotes, and these designate words that you are looking for in the note text. There's some trickiness here; you'll need to remember that in general, punctuation is ignored in searches. Also, you can add a minus sign before a literal (-sometext) to say that you want to match notes that do not contain the text term, or you can add an asterisk at the end of the term as a wildcard to say that you want to match notes that contain words that begin with that term (text*) Note properties: There are a slew of terms that you can use to match note properties with: tag:<tag name> to match a tag, intitle:<text> to match text in a note title, todo: to find notes that have todo items, and many more. That's just the high-level overview. Because Evernote has pretty speedy search, it's easy to test out search queries to increase your proficiency. Start on queries that you alreasy know the answers to, and verify that you can find them with search.

Please see: Also: in Evernote, all searches are AND searches by default (AND searches tend to give you smaller search result sets, so are more helpful in narrowing down to what you're looking for), but you can turn them into OR in the search language by prefixing the query with "any:", or via the UI, in Windows clients anyways. Not sure what this means... could you please expand?

Moved to General Feature Requests so you all can vote on it.

There is now. Fixed that for you, gaz.

The "meh" was because it's a feature I suspect I wouldn't use much, if at all. But I decided to upvote anyways, because it is an interesting idea, and one I'd not thought of before. Now why haven't *you* added your vote yet? The flip side is a collaborative group working on a project together; they will tend to have their own vocabulary around what they're working on, so shared synonyms sees like a plausible case as well.

Would you rather they didn't have voting at all? A voting result is a data point, and one of a number of places where they can get direct feedback from users about particular ideas (we've been told that every post is read, and also that they do collate internally posts/topics that ask for the same thing). Many of the folks who spend a lot of time here do encourage other users to add votable feature requests and/or vote up requests that are similar to what they are looking for. Oh, and forum users have been asking for a voting system for ages. As for tag synonyms, I'm kinda "meh" on it, myself. Just off the top of my head: I want my tag vocabulary to be as small as it can be to describe my note content. Less is better than more sometimes. But that's a personal preference. How is this handled in the case of shared notebooks? If I have a synonym for a tag that exists in my notes, is it also a synonym for the same tag in a notebook that's shared to me? I can see cases for both yes and no. Is a tag that's a synonym for my notes also a synonym for someone I share notebooks with? I'm not wholly against this, and I kinda see the use case. I do like to use tags-as-vocabulary to describe how tags work, and languages certainly have synonyms. Hence the "meh", Now where do I register my "meh" vote? Edit: I do think that it's an interesting idea. I'll keep rolling around in my head; maybe I'll up-meh it.

If you right-click on it in File Explorer, does the menu have a "Run as Administrator..." on it?

This functionality does not exist on Windows or Mac clients (it does on Android and iOS). The only known way to do this at this time is to have two Evernote separate accounts, one master account, presumably synced onto a device that has enough storage to store all of your notes, and a second account for your laptop, with which you share only the notebooks from your master account that you need on your laptop. On the other hand, it's unlikely that you'll be able to actually upload and use 10GB/month in a single account; my understanding is that very large note databases do not perform that well, though that may have changed (but I've not heard any different).

If import involves the use of Evernote .enex files, then the information is there; whatever method you're using to import must not be taking advantage of it (contact Apple support, maybe?). A web search did turn up this article though: https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-i-ditched-evernote-for-1286074947960886.html?ref=gs; maybe that will be helpful.

You know, it's awfully fun to play armchair quarterback for a product you don't make, and you can wait around and kvetch about it and whether it's the most requested or needed feature until maybe Evernote finally come to their senses and see things your way (that's even if they were to deliver selective syncing the way you want it, which is not guaranteed), or you could just go ahead implement the two-account solution and get on with your life. This is not rubberbands and slingshots, or outside the box; it's certainly not hard and requires few extra resources (a new email account?); it just uses notebook sharing, which has been a batteries-included part of Evernote for a long time.

The fact of the matter is that DIY selective sync is pretty easy to implement. Get a free Evernote account for the storage-challenged device, and share notebooks to it. It's not that hard. You all can keep arguing about whether the need for this capability is self-evident or not, but geez, Dorothy, you've always had the power to go back to Kansas -- just close your eyes and tap your heels together three times and think to yourself "There's no place like Evernote."

Yes? So where's the customer curve for the product we're discussing here? In any case, a lot of the people so torqued about this change were *never* going to pay for the service. How does that help Evernote? Oh, and thanks for distorting my statement: I said "long-term free users"; you said merely "free users". Not quite the same thing.

If you don't pay attention to money, then the business dies, and customers are nowhere regardless. That's not a good business plan. By the way, it's false to say that they are putting money first. You certainly can still use the Basic service absolutely for free, as in free beer. But long-term free users do not help the business. They've pulled back so that free users need to make a choice: either accept the limitations of the free service, subscribe to a paid tier, or move to a different note service. But again, they are not killing the free service, and claiming it is doesn't make it true.. If you feel like joining in the fun of speculating about Evernote's future, you should seek out the lengthy topic elsewhere in the forum about Evernote's new pricing. Other people feel as you do.

The value of Evernote has never really been in upload capacity, which is not the same as storage capacity; Evernote doesn't really have storage capacity limits, though you'd be probably be pretty sorry if you actually had a 1TB Evernote note database: the desktop clients have had difficulty with large databases. It's actually the ability to organize and search your data in ways that are better than that of a simple file system that makes Evernote useful to me. So no, nobody's expecting you to do anything; I'm guessing they're hoping that you try to make a rational decision about your needs, and do something appropriate. If that means losing you as a customer who doesn't pay them anything anyways, then I think that they can take it. Why wouldn't they be interested in your money? Do you think that they're in business purely to feel good about how they're helping people to organize their lives? That's a nice thought, but businesses need money to pay their employees. I don't work for free. Do you? If the business can't survive because they're not making enough money, then what happens to their customers anyway?

I don't disagree with your plight (I have a work account, and I share notebooks back and forth with that and my personal accout, so tag creation is sometimes an issue), in fact, I think that tags in shared notebooks are not well handled in other cases, in particular, my favorite: duplicate tags. But that's another rant, and one I've ranted about before. In any case, you might want to post this as a feature request in one of the device-specific Product Feedback forums, where it can be voted on by other users (I'd vote for it). But no worries about the forum censor -- it's just a mindless routine, and though it seems silly, it allows us to fill in our own substitute terms in our minds.

Clear to you, however, but based on what? One data point? Hardly enough to make a clear trend. You may be correct, but not based on existing evidence. That's normally called "guesswork" or "making things up." By the way, you call it "shrinking", but did you know that the Basic service added a new feature? I'll let you puzzle that one out for yourself... Cheers & goodbye!

I'm guessing that that's just the organizational system that they want to provide, as being more flexible than strict hierarchies (it's also very similar to the folder/label organization GMail uses). Stacks provide limited nesting; it's more of a grouping feature than an expression of any kind of real hierarchy. I wouldn't expect full hierarchies to appear in Evernote any time soon; they might, but they might not, and in general, basing your tool choice on expectations rather than actual realities is usually a bad idea.

Alternatively, it's "pay and you get enhanced Evernote features, or don't pay, and you get a useful Evernote feature set". "Doing business" is about keeping your company afloat so that you can continue giving value to your customers (i.e., doing business is not about going out of business). It seems fair to ask the users to pay for the value they're receiving; this only sharpens the question a bit. You can still use Evernote entirely for free.

You're not alone in this. A lot of folks have been confused by the two-device limit, and that's caused a lot of unnecessary angst (some people are still outraged by it, but meh). Anyways, I agree that communication about this and the price increases could have been a lot clearer. You might be interested in this thread, where a lower-priced tier is proposed:

A reference for the clipboard security issue: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/33428/is-a-password-in-the-clipboard-vulnerable-to-attacks. It's theoretically a security issue, but it's not really, unless you're infected with malware of some sort. Similar situations are occasionally called out by Raymond Chen in his Old New Thing blog, usually with a title involving "It rather involved being on the other side of this airtight hatchway", lifted from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, i.e.: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20150422-00/?p=44183