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  1. Exactly this.. seems to be this tendency in software development since the mid 00s to emulate Apple in every way, and by that I mean 'KISS' -making things accessible to the masses. Most startups bank on this because it's the only way to pull the revenue they need to stay afloat - problem is we end up with a bunch of programs forever catering to the lowest common denominator. I miss 'smart' software. What you've said I can't agree with more, hide it in an advanced section - enable 'advanced' mode and add all the (VERY EASILY IMPLEMENTED (programatically speaking)) features for those who want/need it.
  2. Because OP can't upvote their own idea it seems!
  3. I'm also not against hierarchical tags, the downside is, as opposed to synonyms, they are, well, hierarchical - for searching purposes, a system that equates two tags would be better rather than ranks them - you still want to get the children from the parent and vice-versa. That said, I LOVE the idea of hierarchical tags - so then when I tag something "Pizza", it also gets tagged as "Fast Food".
  4. Case in point, Jeff. You're an engaged user, and your vote is "Meh". How "Meh" do you think the non-engaged users are (positively OR negatively?). The vote system's a good start, but it still only engages a fraction of the user base, one that has mostly, for as long as I've lurked on the forums, given 'meh' responses to frequently requested features by more casual users (who tend to only show up when they feel like the product they regularly use, and increasingly fork out for isn't meeting their needs). It certainly is: to me, more is more. I like to slap a lot of different labels on things, that's the benefits of tags over notebooks, that said, it means I end up tagging two different words with the same meanings, or plural/singular variations on two different notes. Let me search for one and get the other. Simple: Synonyms are local, they apply to all notebooks you have - if you share a notebook you have to define the associated tags - what the user does on the other end is their business. eg. Bob shares a notebook and has a note with "building" as a tag (the verb, for the purposes of this example), on his end "building" is synonymous with "construction". On your end, you see "building", but you may or may not have "construction" as a synonym - it doesn't matter- but 'building' will inherit the same synonyms that you have for "building". Not if you use 'Building' as a noun, you may get some odd matches - but it's not a hard thing to add an option for whether users inherit synonymous tags or not.
  5. Anyone who's posted in favour of tag synonyms, please head over to my post and give it in an upvote, (now that there's an upvote system) https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/99044-tag-synonyms/
  6. Herein lies my problem with the 'upvote in a forum' system: 1) The majority of Evernote users don't visit the forum frequently. 2) The average engagement of those who DO occasionally visit, is minimal 3) Even when you find people, such as those who have commented in this thread, who 'don't mind' your idea, or like an idea similar to it, they still don't 'upvote' the idea. To any E/N staff reading - search 'synonym' and you'll see this is not the first time this topic has been brought up.
  7. I think some of my erroneous tags come from mailed in notes... which granted, won't help with synonymity, but at least can be sorted with things like plurality.
  8. Yes - and I've brought this up before (prior to the new upvote system), that works too. Essentially it boils down to the specific 'unfuzzy' nature of tags as they currently stand in EN - there needs to be a more forgiving nature regarding tag names, and relationships between those tags. I've heard people's rules mentioned numerous times, and although I'm sure it works, I personally prefer to have the software work for me, not the other way around.
  9. Because it hasn't been mentioned since the new Product Feedback instructions, I'd like to bring up tag synonyms, as per Stack Overflow, it would be invaluable to define tag synonyms for words with a similar meaning, or plural/singular variations. It doesn't need to be an automated thesaurus, just a manual means of linking tags.
  10. One thing that's been brought up a few times before is tag synonyms... to me it's a no brainer. jbenson2 mentioned their solution here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/94500-tag-synonyms/?do=findComment&comment=398672 but to me that's a laborious method for what should just be a basic feature of pairing tag associations (or having linked or at the very least, inherited tags). Going and deleting very similar but not the same tags frequently is really frustrating - only slightly less frustrating that the suggestion that I have a system that I have to remember for just HOW I've tagged something.
  11. Evernote tags are the backbone of its organizational power... however, I feel like the concept isn't being taken far enough in a number of ways. Most answers I receive on the forums haven't sufficiently addressed the needs I have as an Evernote power user. I get wanting to keep things simple so that the core software is as appealing to as many users as possible - but I also think that so many excellent software products in the last decade suffer from trying to avoid more advanced features as to not confuse less technical users. That all said, there are some things I wish Evernote with its all powerful tagging system did: Relational mapping: Beng able to visualise the relationship between tags can help not only find patterns in your own data, but also help locate similar articles that may have been tagged differently. Mohio map, but built in. Multi-parent Tag hierarchies: Having multi parent tag hierarchies would allow you to better relationally sort through your info as a map would - being able to tag a recipe as "Pad Thai" and have it also be under the tag "Recipe" as WELL as "Thai Food" would allow for far more flexible searching. Synonymous and plural tag relationships: This is a big one. I know that many people have a system for their tags, ie always singular or plural - but on the fly and in certain EN interfaces (like mailing in) it's not always easy to know what existing tags you're using for a particular type of article or clip. To have synonymous referencing would make life a WHOLE lot easier. These don't need to be features that complicate things for the average user, it could be Evernote advanced mode... I just feel like EN is missing a large opportunity to make their data go further - heck, the data from tag relationships would be interesting to send into neural networks too.
  12. Thanks for the suggestion DTLow, but that still doesn't differentiate the KIND of web clip. csihilling: I get that it doesn't work that way, that's why I'm suggesting a new option. For me there IS no prevalent clip type, sometimes I'm saving bookmarks, sometimes articles, sometimes full pages... it'd just be good to even have some way of searching if the ability to change tags for tag types isn't going to happen, for example even as DTLow suggested, source:web.clip::bookmark or source:web.clip::simplified_article... then I could tag them as such in bulk.
  13. Of course, manually changing it is always an option, but I want the process to be automatic - the key part of the sentence being "per clip type" - I can set 'always tag with' - but that doesn't specifically tag based on that clip type... 'Bookmarks' tag or notebook for boomarks, 'selection' tag for 'selection' type clips etc...
  14. I think the webclipper is honestly the greatest part of Evernote, and the reason I keep using the software. I would love the ability to associate a clip type - for example 'Bookmark' - with either a notebook or a tag. I have a notebook called 'Bookmarks' - and would automatically like my Bookmark clips to go into that notebook - likewise, I'd like pdf's tagged as 'pdf'...
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