Bob Withers 6 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I just moved Evernote to a new Windows PC and discovered - to my horror - that F7 to invoke Spell Check is gone. I NEED IT BACK! In exchanging email with a support specialist named Lucas, this appears to be a deliberate decision someplace between versions 6.5.7 (works) and 6.8.7 (gone). It's still gone in 6.9.7.x and whomever Lucas was talking to blew the answer off "treat as feature request". This is my particular situation - I have notes where I use a code to identify something and its quantity like K42 or F9. Every one of these now has a red-squiggle and there are hundreds in one note. The suggestion was to right-click each one and spell check individually. I just wonder if Evernote is going to pay for my doctor bills from repetitive strain doing this? Between the deliberate decision to remove this, the dismissive answer from the problem escalation, and the useless work-around, I'm not very impressed. 2 Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 I don't see this as dismissive, just informative. The support person (almost never someone who can control product feature inclusion/removal) is telling you what happened: someone at Evernote decided to remove the spell checker (possibly due to usage telemetry??) and that's what they did, and a possible resolution: the request to reinstate it will now be treated as a feature request. I understand that loss of the feature is disappointing (and I certainly agree that feature removals should be announced rather than dropped as a user surprise), but the tech's reply seems purely descriptive, and not as if they're trying to blow you off. All the tech can do is relay the request up the line. Oh, and the way that I read it, the spell check should happen automatically; you should see red underlines on things like 'F9' and 'K42'' without needing to spellcheck automatically, at least I do. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,969 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 Hi. What alternatives did you have in mind? The available options within Evernote seem to be - find a way to ignore the red marks, go to Evernote > Tools > Options > Language and untick 'check spelling as you type', uninstall your current version and go back to 6.5.7 (if that's possible), or leave spelling active and start saving the queried items to the dictionary. If you'd like me to do so I can move your post into a voting 'feature request' forum where you can see whether this is a feature that enough members value to persuade Evernote to spend development time getting it back in place. Outside of Evernote there's always the possibility of using a word processor to edit your content unbothered by any spell checking, then copy and paste the finished version back into Evernote, or of using something like OneNote instead of Evernote (although I have no information about how that spell checker deals with codes.) FWIW There are 'text expander'apps around like Phrase Express which can insert a chosen word or phrase into your copy with a keypress - "#k" forinstance could generate K42 without having to type all the characters. (Clearly much more useful for long codes). Phrase Express can also run small macros, so could in theory be used to accept a term into the dictionary with one keypress. (You'd need to develop your own code to achieve that.) Hope some of that helps... Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm still on v. 6.5.4, and over the last several months have seen a long litany of features reported here as being removed or no longer working properly. I haven't heard one instance of anything being added or changed that significantly improved functionality. Oh wait, there's improved table functioning, no doubt a real improvement for many, at a cost of merely adding pointless huge margins to every note for every user. V. 6.5.4 works great for my purposes, including the dedicated spell-check window (and functioning user dictionary). I am now firmly committed to never updating again, unless there is some compelling improvement (which would include restoration of spell-check and other features). The trashing of Web clipping in Android only adds to my mystification about what on earth they are thinking. 1 Link to comment
Bob Withers 6 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Let me start by clarifying - I'm not shooting the messenger. Lucas (the tech support person) is doing their job. I've been in their position and I understand the work they do. I'm upset at whomever the up-stream person is. @Dave-in-Decatur Guru is right. Removing something intrinsically useful and doing it silently is unprofessional at best. And then saying that I need to request a feature to undo the damage smacks of engineering arrogance. Again, with @Dave-in-Decatur , I wish I'd never downgraded to the latest version. @gazumped - I want to see things unbroken. I'm guessing that the ability to work with dictionaries is gone as well. I also don't see why I should need to add third party programs to undo the damage. This isn't a feature request - it's a bug report and a fairly significant one at that. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob Withers said: And then saying that I need to request a feature to undo the damage smacks of engineering arrogance. Again, with @Dave-in-Decatur OK, that's the part that's unclear/ambiguous to me. I certainly believe that you shouldn't need to make an explicit feature request to restore the spellchecker feature, and that your tech should have done it for you, and that's how I read their message. But that's an assumption on my part. That being said, posting on the forums should also make this a feature request (and if you want, we can move this to an actual feature request forum, so that others can vote on it). In addition, I'd still be wondering whether spelling errors are redlined in your version automatically? I can certainly see them on my machines. Lastly, you should be able to fetch an older version of Evernote and re-install. They can be found at https://filehippo.com/download_evernote/ in the column to the right. Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Bob Withers said: This may explain why the dictionary function is broken in the current release (hands in the pie). Just have to wonder what the upside was in investing in removing this functionality, with the attendant risks of breaking something else, which may have happened. Is getting the dictionary function to work a feature request? 1 Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, CalS said: This may explain why the dictionary function is broken in the current release (hands in the pie). Just have to wonder what the upside was in investing in removing this functionality, with the attendant risks of breaking something else, which may have happened. Is getting the dictionary function to work a feature request? The curious thing to me is that while I've read the reports that it's broken, I see the spellchecking part of it working for me, as well as the adding of words like 'F9' to the list of approved words, though they're not winding up in the user.dict that I think should have them (more spelunking required). Mysteries abound... Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, jefito said: The curious thing to me is that while I've read the reports that it's broken, I see the spellchecking part of it working for me, as well as the adding of words like 'F9' to the list of approved words, though they're not winding up in the user.dict that I think should have them (more spelunking required). Mysteries abound... The part that is not working for me is adding words to "my dictionary". Recommendations are made for misspelled words just fine. But things like people's names or other words not in the "master" dictionary which appear with the red underline do not stick post Add to dictionary. EN support said it is broken and being addressed.... I can't even brute force it by editing the user.dic file (which I recovered from a backup). It's like it moved To where is a mystery. Link to comment
Bob Withers 6 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 The red underlines are still there - lots and lots of them when I opened a note on a new computer. That's the issue I'm facing is right-clicking and saying "add to dictionary" is totally impractical. It also seems that any management of the dictionaries is gone including wiping the .dic file. So, if an entry is added by accident, you can' get rid of it. Lucas tells me that this has been added to the internal feature-request list. 2 Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I don't do Evernote beta testing (can't afford the time), but I find it just astounding that something like this got through beta. I would assume that the testers flagged it, and whoever approves releases just said, "Oh well." Only an assumption; but if anyone knows better, please inform me. Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said: I don't do Evernote beta testing (can't afford the time), but I find it just astounding that something like this got through beta. I would assume that the testers flagged it, and whoever approves releases just said, "Oh well." Only an assumption; but if anyone knows better, please inform me. It appeared in the first 6.9 beta. Link to comment
Ex Employees Austin G 527 Posted February 22, 2018 Ex Employees Share Posted February 22, 2018 Hi @Bob Withers. Thanks for this report. Please allow me to provide some additional context. Evernote for Windows 6.8 release included several necessary updates to the app. These updates caused some the existing features in our client to no longer work, including some of the spell check features. Given the available workarounds, the decision was made to release 6.8 without all of the old spell check features. Please know we're still investigating ways to bring back all of the old spell check features in a future version. I will post an update here once I have more information on that. The existing .dic file in is no longer used. The new dictionary file is now stored in this filepath: C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CEF\User Data\Dictionaries. Because of this change, words that were added to the .dic file on earlier versions will be flagged as misspelled after updating to 6.8. Currently, the only workaround is to add them back to the new dictionary file from right-click menu. I recognize this isn't a great user experience, and I apologize for that. As @CalS mentioned, there is now a separate issue on 6.9.7 where words added to this new dictionary file are not retained. We're working on fixing that now, and I'll also post updates on the status of that issue here. Until new words can be added to the new dictionary file, I recommend reinstalling Evernote for Windows version 6.7.5. Version 6.7.5 will read the old user.dic file instead of the new one. You can reinstall 6.7.5 using these steps: If Evernote is running, select File > Exit from the menu bar to exit the Evernote app Click the 'Start' button to open your Start menu Go to **Control Panel > Uninstall a program** Select Evernote, then click **Uninstall** Restart your computer Exit Internet Explorer and Outlook (if installed & open) Download and install (as an administrator) Evernote for Windows from http://cdn1.evernote.com/win6/public/Evernote_6.7.5.5825.exe Open Evernote and log in to your Evernote account Thanks again for the post. I'll follow up with additional updates ASAP. 1 Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Austin G said: Until new words can be added to the new dictionary file, I recommend reinstalling Evernote for Windows version 6.7.5. Version 6.7.5 will read the old user.dic file instead of the new one. Ausitn, Thanks for the update. Methinks I'll wait for the fix in lieu of a reinstall. The not retaining the words is a PITA, but downgrading is more of a PITA. FYI, I have two files in the folder, neither of which have been updated, according to Windows anyway, in quite a while. I installed 6.8.2.5982 on 10/18/2017. Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Thanks, @Austin G. I'll wait for your updates. I do have two further questions, if you or anyone can answer them. The first has to do with communication. Was there anything in the release notes about the taking-down of the spelling functions? Leaving users to just randomly discover that on their own is a textbook exercise in alienating customers. Pretty it up in the release notes however you want; give it lipstick and put a bow in its hair; but for heaven's sake tell us what's coming. Secondly, "necessary updates" is rather vague. I'm not disputing whether that's appropriate. But I'd like to hear from other users who (unlike me) have continued to update about what has been fixed or is working better in the newer versions. Assuming that there is some kind of plan to improve rather than degrade the software, how is it manifesting? That's off-topic for this thread, so please respond to my post here: Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Austin G said: Evernote for Windows 6.8 release included several necessary updates to the app. These updates caused some the existing features in our client to no longer work, including some of the spell check features. Given the available workarounds, the decision was made to release 6.8 without all of the old spell check features. Please know we're still investigating ways to bring back all of the old spell check features in a future version. I will post an update here once I have more information on that. I gotta say that this is exactly the sort of stuff that needs to go into the release notes, plus the bit about your intention to add the functionality back. I certainly understand that sometimes to move forward, you can be forced to take a step or two back, and I don't really need to know the 'why' of the 'necessary updates' (even if I might be curious about it), but letting users know when features that they may depend upon are removed is really important. 1 hour ago, Austin G said: The existing .dic file in is no longer used. The new dictionary file is now stored in this filepath: C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CEF\User Data\Dictionaries. Because of this change, words that were added to the .dic file on earlier versions will be flagged as misspelled after updating to 6.8. Currently, the only workaround is to add them back to the new dictionary file from right-click menu. I recognize this isn't a great user experience, and I apologize for that. Hmm, might have been nice if you folks had been able to migrate the entries from the old dictionary to the new location, but if that needed to happen in the installer (i.e. 'big box of black magic', *shudder*) then I understand. I'm lucky that spell checking isn't a burning need for me, but I agree that this could have been handled better. Hopefully that will be a lesson that Evernote can build on. Edit: putting my Magic Guessing Hat on: The 'CEF' bit refers to the Chromium Embedded Framework, used by Evernote to render notes, and '.bdic. is the extension used by Chromium dictionaries, so the change to use that rather than the old '.dic' files is probably something that is intended to make the dictionary more accessible to the framework. But that's just a guess... Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, jefito said: Edit: putting my Magic Guessing Hat on: The 'CEF' bit refers to the Chromium Embedded Framework, used by Evernote to render notes, and '.bdic. is the extension used by Chromium dictionaries, so the change to use that rather than the old '.dic' files is probably something that is intended to make the dictionary more accessible to the framework. But that's just a guess... Interesting. I suspect you're on it. I have the path ...AppData\Local\CEF\User Data\Dictionaries, but there's nothing there (nor anywhere else in ...AppData\Local\CEF\). It would be convenient and useful if the .bdic file were plain-text, so it could be readily merged with existing user dictionaries; but I'll be anything that it is binary and non-editable. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said: It would be convenient and useful if the .bdic file were plain-text, so it could be readily merged with existing user dictionaries; but I'll be anything that it is binary and non-editable. Per some Chromium documentation here, https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/editing-the-spell-checking-dictionaries, the .bdic format format is binary (OK, UTF-8). It's better as a dictionary basis as it's not just literal words; it allows rule-based modifications for affixes that modify the base word. Flip side is that it's not text-based, so not (easily) user editable... Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 22, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, jefito said: Per some Chromium documentation here, https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/editing-the-spell-checking-dictionaries, the .bdic format format is binary (OK, UTF-8). It's better as a dictionary basis as it's not just literal words; it allows rule-based modifications for affixes that modify the base word. Flip side is that it's not text-based, so not (easily) user editable... Thanks, Jeff. That's what I suspected. Which means that my well-developed plain-text user dictionary from my word processor probably won't be able to be merged with the new Evernote user dictionary when it appears, and I'll be adding words one at a time. Sigh. Link to comment
dconnet 529 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 hours ago, jefito said: The 'CEF' bit refers to the Chromium Embedded Framework Yes. We upgraded from CEFv1 to CEFv3. It was painful - the programming model is completely different. (it's also why you see more Evernote processes in task manager) 2 Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted February 23, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, dconnet said: Yes. We upgraded from CEFv1 to CEFv3. It was painful - the programming model is completely different. (it's also why you see more Evernote processes in task manager) The fun never stops, eh? Link to comment
Bob Withers 6 Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 @Austin G @dconnet I have a note that is two screenfuls long with 1-2 red squiggles per line. Right-clicking per entry is (at best) a bad solution. And, in the upgrade process, other things seem to have broken besides F7. As pointed out by the Gurus, it would have been nice to at least let people know in release notes or a pop-up. At one point, many years ago, I was Consulting Engineer at a major computer company - at one time, the # 2 in the world. We had 2 rules. "Features never go backward" and "if it doesn't pass the regression tests, it doesn't ship." Silently losing capability is just not professional. And, the ultimate Irony? The first word in the note with all the squiggles is "Evernote" - guess what has a red squiggle under it? 2 Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted February 23, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted February 23, 2018 23 hours ago, dconnet said: Yes. We upgraded from CEFv1 to CEFv3. It was painful - the programming model is completely different. (it's also why you see more Evernote processes in task manager) Thanks for this explanation. I don't know how Evernote's programming and updating processes work, of course, so this might be a nonstarter, but it seems like doing a parallel development process on CEFv3, with nothing released until the product was fully functional with no features removed, might have been preferable. As I say, uttered out of ignorance. 1 Link to comment
gawkla 15 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I am fully agree. Evernote should: 1) well communicate this change 2) well test all released packages. Currently it looks like mid-school programmer application. But this is not funny for us - users. Last version is far better like month ago, but still have a lot of bugs. 3 Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted March 6, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 9:43 AM, Austin G said: now a separate issue on 6.9.7 where words added to this new dictionary file are not retained. We're working on fixing that now, and I'll also post updates on the status of that issue here. Using the 6.10 beta and words seem to be adding. However I just added a word and two files appeared on my desktop: Custom Dictionary.txt Custom Dictionary.txt.backup Is this all a part of the same problem? Link to comment
cswilly 41 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 9 hours ago, CalS said: Using the 6.10 beta and words seem to be adding. However I just added a word and two files appeared on my desktop: 1 I just installed the 6.10.1 beta. I do not have the two files on my desktop. The user.dic file in the Evernote\Dict folder is not created or updated. When I add a word to the dictionary, it is not remembered by Evernote. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted March 6, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 hours ago, cswilly said: I just installed the 6.10.1 beta. I do not have the two files on my desktop. The user.dic file in the Evernote\Dict folder is not created or updated. When I add a word to the dictionary, it is not remembered by Evernote. Do please read the whole topic to see why this is not working in new releases, specifically the post here: Link to comment
cswilly 41 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 @jefito Thanks for the comment. I was hoping the new beta would change something, but it do not. My hope was based on the reply I quoted. Rather than using the revert to an old version workaround, I can wait for a real fix. Does anybody have an ETA on fixing this bug? Link to comment
terencino 3 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I noticed on Windows 10 Evernote latest stable version 6.9.7.6770, all the words I spellcheck turn up in the Downloads folder of all places, in a file called Custom Dictionary.txt. Opening the file shows all the added words all crammed together in alphabetical order with a checksum at the end that changes after every addition. Just for fun I shut down Evernote and moved the custom dictionary files to another folder, then started Evernote again. You guessed it: all the red underlines reappeared in all my notes. However reinstating the custom dictionary back to the Downloads folder breaks the spellchecking system - words are not added to the old custom dictionary, and a new dictionary is not generated either. I had to reinstall Evernote, and add all the words back to the dictionary again. Same issue with the latest beta 6.10.1.6801 So if you're like me and routinely delete the contents of the Downloads folder, make sure you preserve the Custom Dictionary files. Link to comment
jornhanssen 0 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hi "terencino", I see the same as you with the "Custom Dictionary.txt" file in the "Downloads" folder. For me it only works once. When I do a fresh install, and start up Evernote - this file is being filled up when I add new words to the dictionar. However - if I now reboot the PC, no words are being added to this file no more. It seems to me that it only works once :-( Hoping for a speedy recovery of the spell checker :-) Link to comment
Tiffany Smith 0 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I use Evernote for school & the loss of spellcheck KILLS me. I'm seriously contemplating switching to OneNote. Link to comment
itsfine 1 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I have same issue where I have some notes that I want to spell check, and others are full of things like code or what have you, and thus the sea of red squiggles is annoying, so I turned off Spell Check as I type. I was hoping to have an option to load spell check on demand for the notes that I do want to check, but see that has been disabled. Please return this feature. Thanks! 1 Link to comment
riders2966 1 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I was slow to update to the new version (I'm a daily user, but actually don't recall seeing a notification until a week ago - but maybe that is a separate issue) ... and like @Bob Withers I too am amazed that I simply discovered this by it not working - and then wasting lots of time confirming that it wasn't just me or my computer etc. I appreciate @Austin G you giving an explanation as to how this came about - and really hope that you can restore this ASAP - I find it crazy to think that a note writing program can suddenly not include a spell checker! And @Austin G when it does return, can I please request that a number followed by a colon and followed by another number not be seen as a misspelling? Maybe it is because I am an Australian, but 12:05 pm or John 3:16 are the standard ways I have always known to write time and Bible references. Thank you, Rohan Prowse 1 Link to comment
JeffreyC 66 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 +1 I certainly get advancing the application; such is greatly appreciated. But you can't sacrifice core features that people expect in an application. FWIW, you also can't Right Click / Ignore Word to make the red underline go away. All said, I still love Evernote (especially over OneNote ) and have faith they will fix spelling - making it better and stronger than before. Link to comment
2016@jegen.net 2 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 In some ways, I can't believe this is even a question for Evernote. Perhaps they have empirical data that their users are flawless spellers or don't care about spelling errors, but I don't see how a note-taking application can exist without spell-check. I really hope they prioritize this feature and restore a core function of all writing applications. 1 Link to comment
emmgee 39 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I noticed that words that I swore I had added to the dictionary were showing as not being remembered. So I looked in the dictionary file and sure enough, they are there. But the red underline appears anyway. Just updated to Windows version 6.11.2. Still happening. C'mon Evernote! This is basic stuff. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, emmgee said: I noticed that words that I swore I had added to the dictionary were showing as not being remembered. So I looked in the dictionary file and sure enough, they are there. But the red underline appears anyway. Just updated to Windows version 6.11.2. Still happening. What dictionary file are you referring to? If it's <blah>\Evernote\Dict\user.dic, then that's not being used any more. See https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/111873-f7-spell-check-gone/?tab=comments#comment-495280 for more information and further discussion. With the 6.11.2 release, here's what I'm seeing: * F7 seems to be gone; instead, then you activate a note by clicking in its body, the note gets spellchecked * You can right-click on a red-squiggled word (which highlights it), and add it to the dictionary or replace with a suggested word. If you add it to the dictionary, then you need to unhighlight the word before the squiggles go away (though other instances of the same word may remain marked as misspelled; a bug, I think). The added word seems to persist: after switching to a different note, and back, or shutting down Evernote and returning, the word should not be marked as spelled incorrectly * Unfortunately, it appears that words in the user.dic file aren't automatically imported into the new system. Also, the .bdic file cited in the link doesn't appear to change when new words are added, so I don't know where the new words are actually kept. Does the above accord with what you're seeing? Edit: OK, now I do see where the words are being kept; they're in a file named "Custom Dictionary.txt", but they're all piled together with a checksum at the end (presumably means that you shouldn't hand-edit the file), and no indication of how they're separated. But at least I know where they are now. 1 Link to comment
emmgee 39 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I wound up opening a ticket and getting very quick assistance. The person who helped me said that my issue was fixed in the latest beta (6.10.3.6921). I don't know where to find that and based on what you're saying above there is a 6.11.2 release? Link to comment
cswilly 41 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Quote Currently, the only workaround is to add them back to the new dictionary file from right-click menu. I recognize this isn't a great user experience, and I apologize for that. The workaround in https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/111873-f7-spell-check-gone/?tab=comments#comment-495280 (see text above) does not work for me. I add the word to new dictionary file, the red-squiggle goes away. I exit and restart Evernote, and the red-squiggle word comes back. Evernote, please fix this ASAP. I am running 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387). To be sure, Evernote for Windows is more and more unusable at the most basic usage: Editor bad, no spell check, opening a note very slow, notes forgetting paragraph formatting, etc. Please stop adding any new features until the bugs in the key features are fixed. Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,996 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5 Share Posted April 4, 2018 @dconnet's information earlier in this thread makes it clear that WRT the spell-checker, this is not random programming issues, but the result of changing to a different underlying structure: See the other posts around that date on the same topic. I wonder whether this Chromium upgrade is responsible for a lot of the other bugs and feature degradation in recent releases. If so, I sure wish they'd have worked all this out in the background and released one big but well-functioning update rather than a series of incremental ones with all these issues. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, emmgee said: I wound up opening a ticket and getting very quick assistance. The person who helped me said that my issue was fixed in the latest beta (6.10.3.6921). I don't know where to find that and based on what you're saying above there is a 6.11.2 release? Yes, 6.11 has gone public. Help / Check for Updates. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, cswilly said: Evernote, please fix this ASAP. I am running 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387). As far as I can tell, it's fixed in the 6.11 release... Link to comment
emmgee 39 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 How do I find the 6.11 beta release? Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, emmgee said: How do I find the 6.11 beta release? I thought that 6.11 was generally available (GA) and so not beta, but if you want a beta release, go to Tools / Options / General and enable the [] Enable beta features and updates checkbox, then Help / Check for Updates Link to comment
emmgee 39 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I am using 6.11.2.7027 (307027) Public (CE Build ce-43.0.4829). It is broken in this release, hence my question. I was told via someone in Support that it is working in the latest beta release. Link to comment
emmgee 39 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Thanks for telling me how to find the beta release. Now I have to think through whether I want to take a chance on it. Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,300 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 I'm seeing what @jefito is seeing. F7 does not exist anymore, but when you click in a note any misspelled words are underlined with the red squiggle. And any words I have added to the dictionary since 6.11 GA seem to be sticking. FWIW. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,598 Posted April 4, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, emmgee said: Thanks for telling me how to find the beta release. Now I have to think through whether I want to take a chance on it. I'm using the same version you're using. If you want to follow that particular version, the forum topic https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/112693-evernote-for-windows-611-ga/ is where other users leave their comments and issues. Link to comment
cswilly 41 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I updated to 6.11.2.7027 (307027) Public (CE Build ce-43.0.4829) (not beta). It solves my problem of Evernote not using my spelling dictionary. I have to re-add my specific words again to my dictionary. The red-squiggle underline spelling errors stay away even after re-starting Evernote. This bug fix is noted in the6.11.2.7027 release notes "- An issue where words added to the dictionary aren't remembered between app launches". 1 Link to comment
Bob Withers 6 Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Well, I just discovered that I cannot upgrade to the latest version. In setting up my current laptop, I was running as a member of the Administrators group so I could install the software I needed. Corporate policy says no one runs as Admin for their day-to-day work, so I took my own Admin privileges away and there's a second Admin account for those rare occasions I need to elevate my privs. So, then I hit "Check for Updates" it failed - as I expect. I typed "Evernote" into the Windows 10 search box, right-clicked, and said "Run as Administrator." Evernote still ran as me and the update failed. I logged into the Admin account to run the update and it worked until it insisted that I register. But, I don't want to register that account, it's the Admin user, not my day-to-day user. There's no way past the mandatory registration screen. Long story short, I can't install the update as a normal user (expected) or as an Admin because of the mandatory registration. Other than having Evernote fix their screwed up installation (and experience here says that's unlikely,) any suggestions for getting the latest version installed so I can have a semi-working Spell-Check? Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,969 Posted April 5, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bob Withers said: any suggestions for getting the latest version installed so I can have a semi-working Spell-Check? Hi. Any chance you could uninstall the current version (as Admin if necessary) and then download and install the latest version as just you? Take a copy of your Databases folder first, just in case; but a normal uninstall / reinstall shouldn't affect your database... Link to comment
Bob Withers 6 Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 The problem is that Evernote requires registration at installation. I do not want to install into the Admin account with my personal Evernote ID and I do not want to create a new Evernote ID for the Admin account. I do not have privs in my personal account to either uninstall or re-install Evernote. Here's what I would have to do: Log out as my personal account (pain because of needing to re-open windows and apps) ... Login as the Admin account and give my personal account privs ... Logout of the Admin account ... Login to my personal account ... update Evernote (or do the in-/re-install) ... Logout of my personal account ... Login to the Admin account ... Take away the Admin privs from my personal account ... Logout of the Admin account ... Login to my personal account ... Re-open all my apps and reset my windows (as I said, pain.) And then I need to do that for every update. After all of this, Spell Check might not be fixed anyway, based on comments in this thread. Sigh. Link to comment
dconnet 529 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 21 hours ago, Bob Withers said: The problem is that Evernote requires registration at installation Actually, it doesn't. Once the installer is done, it automatically launches the program (which want to register). Just quit. You're done. 1 Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,969 Posted April 7, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted April 7, 2018 14 hours ago, dconnet said: Actually, it doesn't. Once the installer is done, it automatically launches the program (which want to register). Just quit. You're done. Thanks. Wasn't sure whether that was still the case for a new install - but if so @Bob Withers you should be able to kill your present Admin installation (copy the database folder somewhere you can get to it when not in Admin mode) and then reinstall the current GA as you. If you then log in, you will (hopefully) see all your notes. If there's are any issues, you have a copy you can access to resolve them... Link to comment
Chagai95 1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just posting this here in case someone ran into problems related to spell checking in a few languages. Link to comment
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