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Interesting thread. The last time I seriously considered jumping ship, maybe a year ago, I evaluated about 30 apps. At that time, the main problem, as it still is, was the lagging issue. Evernote can sit there in the background all day and do nothing, yet as soon as I click on it to search for or create a note, it says, "Hey, I need to do a bunch of stuff, right now. And this would also be the perfect time to sync, rather than when I was idle." The only serious contenders for me were Google Drive, OneNote and Nimbus. Nimbus had the most potential, but as some have said, it's a bit buggy too and moving from one buggy app to another doesn't look like a solution. I will keep an eye on it long term, however. As far as porting to something else, there are the importing tools of Nimbus and OneNote, and as DTLow said, export everything to HTML and go from there is a great solution. All of the import tools, are of the square peg in a round hole variety, so, while they are quick and easy, the results aren't desirable. Having said all that, I have been ready, willing and able to jump ship for a while. To that end, I keep current backups and am slowly creating parallel systems. One thing that has made that easier is getting away from the Everything in Evernote mentality. For years, all important emails have been forwarded to Evernote. Why? My email system is just as capable of organization, searching and cross-platform ability. So, I have been creating rules and filters in Gmail and stopped sending everything to Evernote. Note taking is still done in Evernote, but moving that to any other platform would be quick and easy. This leaves document storage. As much as I hate it, the best solution for me is OneDrive. For several reasons, I have an Office365 sub, which gives me a 1TB storage limit. My current storage after 10 years in Evernote is 5Gb. So I am slowly copying PDFs, etc. to OneDrive and creating systems in IFTTT to duplicate things going forward. I don't need OneNote to access any of these files, but if, at some point, I drop Evernote, I could pick up OneNote without a problem. It has some nice features once you learn the way it syncs, etc. And porting things slowly and methodically instead of some radical, I have to leave right now mentality, allows me to rethink and restructure the whole mess. With OneDrive, I can create the hierarchy that makes sense to me today, and if I go to OneNote, I can rebuild my tag structure rather than just porting everything over. As others have said, if Evernote shut down tomorrow, which most of us don't believe will happen, I have the desktop app and all my data, so I can take as much time as I want porting to another system. Which leaves me with the only problem I see with OneDrive, but one which has an easy solution. It's all in the cloud. I will have to create some system to replicate it locally, along with my external hard-drive and cloud backup systems. And when I say drop Evernote, I mean stop paying for it. Unless they go out of business or have a security problem, there would be no reason not to maintain the free version as a backup. I don't plan on ever moving everything in Evernote to another system, so having things where I can always find them makes it a no-brainer. Evernote works for me. I like it. I don't want to leave it and don't have to right now. But the management and direction of the company has been flaky for a long time now. I don't know if they can, or even want, to turn things around. But right now, I have until April to decide whether to pony up another fee.

With 3 days left I have 97% of my limit left. I keep a ton of stuff in EN, but I probably upload half a dozen, fairly small files daily. For me it was partly the offline files, but mostly just wanting to pay for a product that I was using and believed at the time I was contributing to development that would enhance the product I was using rather than funding the Business product. Per dropping Plus, I still see it on the web version under manage subscriptions, but a Google search found this: https://evernote.com/get-started

LOL. Just another nail

I have been looking at Nimbus for a few months as either a backup to, or a replacement of, EN. I still haven't made the jump, but every time I read about the great new features of Evernote for Business, get a pop-up on the Web app about an EN for Biz feature, or have to remember how to share a note in Android via Email rather than work chat , I get a little closer. To clarify and add to some of gesshoom's post. You can import EN Enex file, but it does a much better job importing the native EXB file. Attachments, tags, etc. all work perfectly. Of course, if you use nested folders, you will have to renest those as EN folders aren't physically connected. As he said, syncing is virtually instant. The Android Widget is much more robust There are offline folders on Android. The default is to download headers and grab Notes as needed, but you can sync everything local and have it all offline if you want. Unlike EN, the app doesn't have the ability to move to External Storage I think the web clipper is as good or better than EN, and the company also has a separate Windows clipper that works very well when outside the browser. The main feature it is lacking that I use frequently is a default import folder, but depending on what I am doing, there are easy workarounds. The tags vs folders argument becomes moot as Nimbus supports both equally well. In response to the "mostly unresponsive support team," I just sent them a feature request. The reply came back within 2 minutes. This is not unusual per my experience. Of the dozen or so emails I have sent them, half came back within minutes, and all but one of the rest were within an hour. The outlier took 6 hours. As far a the pricing is concerned, I have been Premium at EN for years and never touch more than a fraction of the data usage. So, I bought a $5 on month plan at NN to handle the initial import, then I will likely go to the free plan. At this point, the data import per month is the only significant restriction on the free plan. From what I can determine, Nimbus Notes was launched in 2014, but the parent company, Everhelper began about a year before Evernote. EN is still my primary, go-to database, but when my sub comes up in May, I will almost certainly downgrade to Plus if not Free. In the months of testing, NN hasn't been non-responsive at any time, and I find myself going there more and more when I'm waiting for the Not Responding to go away on EN.

As I have said on other occasions when Evernote Business features were forced on me, such as having to 'share' notes instead of simply emailing them, I am not a business user. In addition, as a paid Premium user, I don't expect popup ads in my software. I don't want or need any business features and I don't want spaces.

uh...ok

Thanks for this. I use the standard date/time stamp on the Windows version, but frequently want them separate. I'll check out PE.

yes

Would love to test, but only a Web/PC version or Android. Thanks

Have you looked at Cloudwork? Similar to IFTT. I have a few actions over there. Not sure if they have a direct EN to WP action, but it's another resource. I'll check out Zapier right now.

Another vote to sort by notebook. As someone said, notebooks, by design have different purposes, so different sorting makes sense. Also, as someone else said, the whole sort process is clunky. To change the sort and reverse the order is a whopping 6 clicks. And to have to do this every time you go to a different notebook because you need to switch from title alphabetical to added last to first is frustrating.