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Shakespeare was a hack. Only reason his work has stuck around so much is so that people given to pedantic sesquipedalian loquaciousness somebody to quote. Usually incorrectly. He probably liked cauliflower.

No, I ignore what I don't like because I don't like it. Take cauliflower for instance. I don't like it, so I ignore it. Doesn't matter how it is presented. Have seen where they make it look like mashed potatoes or cheese doodles? I just ignore it. But then, I would think a person who can't capitalize correctly to understand the subtle nuances of cruciferous vegetables.

At least this thread was correctly named, I can't take it any more - Migrate out of an endless, pointless, rambling diatribe over semantics with nothing of any interest in several pages.

I'm sorry, but the first word in the second sentence of your second paragraph, should have been capitalized. Therefore everything you have said prior to that is suspect and I choose to disregard it. Next!

You win :0) Don't know how to do incremental backups. But, 95% of my Evernote data also exists in either my default directory or email.

In the 10 years I've been with EN, I have bought half a dozen new devices, Getting up and running with EN was the easiest part of setting up a new device. Having said, that, I am religious about my backups. I have no reason EN is going anywere, but if they do, we will have plenty of time (and in only takes less than an hour) to grab all our stuff. But with the volume of stuff I have in EN, it would be irresponsible not to backup. I alternate weekly backups to the ENEX files, combined with monthly dumps into HTML. Plus the fact that almost everything in EN was someplace else on my hard drive first, which means it is also backed up to 3 external drives and the cloud. As far as the other debates are concerned, smooth peanut butter is far superior to chunky. It is known.

That has happened with me for years, especially if I cut an image from a note. I notice it mostly if clip a web page and try to clean it up.

I've always been a folder guy, but don't really care with Evernote as their search functionality is so good, it's not relevant to me. I can find anything I want in seconds, nested, tagged or otherwise. It's one of the standout features of EN. The main reason I don't want them nesting deeper is unless they change the entire structure of their database, which isn't likely, stacks are virtual. So in looking at other apps, when you port over your data, you have individual folders with no structure at all.

Wow. Came back here to cite my progress since my last post a few months ago, but this thread has taken so many turns since then, I think I'll let the dust settle.

Yes. I only mentioned it because Notion uses Blocks very similar to Wordpress

First, a question that I'll follow up on in another post, Do you use Wordpress? Glad you're not asking about editor, as I don't really know. My memory of it is it is similar to this window. I do a lot of writing, but other than basics, I don't care. On to the fun stuff. I am primarily using it and Evernote as a digital filing cabinet. N is so much more customizable, but as User63 said, out of the box, it's exactly the same. The import is seamless, so you end up with what you had in EN. I don't use tags much, but the ones I had came across. What happened to them? They became entries in a property (what they call field types) called Tags. Besides the ton of other page types or objects you can embed in a page, they have five basic page types. They call them views, which is better descriptor as, just like EN, you can view the same data different ways. EN imports come across with two views, List and Gallery. List view is very similar to List view in EN, with a major exception, I'll get back to. The coolest view is Gallery which is similar to Card view in EN, except you have more control over the image that is shown and the other data is completely customizable and controllable. You do this with the properties I mentioned earlier. And that is the difference also in the List view. You set up these properties, just like fields in a flat file database. Then you control which, if any of these show in the five views. For instance, I have a gallery view of Bills Due and Books. The Bills view shows a thumbnail of the bill, due date and amount. The Books view shows a thumb of the book cover, and title. I can open the record up to see the other fields, any freeform text and other things I will talk about in another post. Table view is just like a flat file database and works like any of them have since dBase or similar back in the dark ages. Board view is a Kanban type display and will group on any field you choose of the Multi-Select variety. So you could have a traditional Kanban showing Urgent, Next, Someday tasks, or, in my Books case, Read, Reading, To-Read- but there is a better, or at least different way to handle that. I could have separate pages, or separate views on the same page, that slices up my books database by those parameters. This is how I handle my task list. There is a master list with everything in it, including due dates, contexts, etc. Then I have views on my Dashboard (a generic name for my main page) with Daily, Today, Tomorrow, Next 7 Days and Done views of all my tasks. All are views of the master list. One of the coolest views, which I haven't even used yet is the Calendar view. Any database with any date field can be viewed as a calendar. Have more than one date fields? Build a calendar for each. All of these views are highly customizable re which fields you see, the filters and the sorting. So, if I wanted a calendar, showing all of my tasks around the house due in the next two weeks, it's a couple of clicks away. That's probably enough for now, but I will say that every time I see someone else's page or a new video, I think of a new way to display some of my EN notes. Meanwhile, they are sitting in the same folders I had in EN and the search function works just as good. And trust me, I haven't scratched the surface here. Having said that, for me, their biggest weakness right now is now email into function. I have no doubt that will be out soon as developers are very active, open and honest. later

I will add this. It has always been my intention when/if I downgraded to keep Evernote. The limits placed on the free plan are easily worked around. I could either use the web client on my laptop, or as I did, revoke access to my tablet, since 95% of my use is laptop and phone. I don't hit a tiny fraction of the monthly limit and the 25Mb per note limit is not an issue for me. In that way, it could be a backup to Notion or I could modify my use of EN into something else. That being said, if they keep up the spam trying to get me to upgrade, I will drop it and never look back.

There is. This gets you a $10 credit and me a $5 credit. Their paid plan is $48 a year or $5 monthly. https://www.notion.so/?r=9af10571a5e74b5594e491b4178a3358

OK, just went over the expiration date on my Evernote. The huge PDF file was still there and viewable, but I couldn't move it or even delete if from the Win client. Did so from the web. As far as workarounds. I have created a page called Inbox and that is where my web clipper goes. For email and scanned files, I still use EN as the inbox and then move files or screen capture emails into Notion. I briefly tested an embedded spreadsheet, but haven't spent much time with it. Spent the last few days moving to a new laptop, so Notion/EN has taken a back seat. Re 100% disk usage, I spent a lot of times chasing down suggested fixes for that. There are a ton. some are useful, some not - none cured the problem. The new machine and SSD seems to have taken care of it. Agree on task scheduler. Takes a lot of time to go through it, but it's amazing how much ***** there is in there.

You may be right - I made an assumption. The over-sized notes were big PDF manuals, that I never really needed in EN. I have a couple of days left. I'll put one back up there and we'll see. I'll keep you posted.

Well.... After 9 years, I have downgraded from Premium to Basic. Had to delete 10 of my 10,000 notes. I won't be able to upload 1,000 times more stuff than I have in years. I won't be able to look at my notes for those few hours a year I am offline (Until I complete the port to Notion) I'll be able to buy that extra cup of coffee every day that people keep talking about

You can build tables with pretty much any type of field object, including links to other pages or tables. There is a relational database capability which I have seen but not used yet, for one to many type scenarios. You can embed other objects like Excel spreadsheets, but they are static views at this point. I think with the next release, they will be live and editable. I've only been on it for a few days and am still learning what it can do. Right now I am building a to-do list table with text, multi-select, date, numeric and drop-down fields. I will then post a link to that on my main page with a view of only tasks due today and a limited set of fields. That same table, or any subset view of it can be turned into a calendar view with a couple of clicks. For Evernote folders that contain a bunch of screenshots, those will become a gallery view, similar to a snippet or card view, but the same page can contain other elements, i.e. tables, etc.

Well, I've come very close a few times in the past. The last time was about a year ago when I took a serious look at Nimbus. Close but no cigar. Prior to my renewal date in a couple of weeks, I will be downgrading to a free account. I've waited for premium to offer some value and it's just not there. Of my 12,000 notes, only 4 are over 25 mb and I hit about 2% of my monthly upload limit. The two device limit will be a slight aggravation, but as many have posted, there are a couple of workarounds. Meanwhile, after looking a couple of times and leaving in confusion, I am working on going all in with Notion. The more I look the better it gets. It's cheaper than EN and does so much more. The design and database aspects are amazing. Currently, the only two stumbling blocks for me are no true inbox and you can't email into it. I have devised short term work-arounds, but unlike EN, they are rolling out improvements constantly, and I expect those to be complete soon. I won't be leaving EN for a while - it will take me weeks, if not months to get Notion setup, but with its import capabilities, I could dump all my EN notes into it in one evening and have everything there in the same structure. It's been a great 10 years, but it's time to move on.

Yeah, it would be a mess, but the main reason I am using the html export is easy access to all the PDFs in one place. Once created, I filter on those and copy them all to my OneDrive. After a couple of days, once I'm sure the whole thing has been backed up to my external drives and the cloud, I delete it all. My 1Tb internal is starting to fill up.

User error. I was clicking on Single page. I guess a 12,000 note html page exceeded some kind of limit ?

May be time for a reboot. Also had a Windows update yesterday. (When I came back to reply to your note, I hit reply and my previous message was in the text box. Only way I could get it to go away was post it and delete it.

Are you having any issues with export in the latest release? My enex exports have been working fine, but tried to do my HTML export and it keeps crashing somewhere about halfway through.

There are two cases when, for me, emails in EN are better than my email system. One, when I use title as a naming/sorting convention, and two, when it is something I absolutely need whether I have an Internet connection or not. That case gets rarer every day, but still happens. Re backups., I do weekly Enex exports and monthly html. Nightly, there are two backups to external drives, one my primary data files and one a mirror of the C drive. Also have real-time cloud backups of hard drive and both externals. So there are 8 copies of my EN data on 4 devices in 3 physical locations, not counting the two Android copies.

Yeah, as I began cleaning up some folders in EN, I realized just how much data was there that I have never looked at, and likely never would. A great deal of that was email,. so that's an easy fix. The document storage decision will be a little tougher, but I may segregate that further into long-term vs short term needs. For example, 2005 tax returns, vs docs I need for a vacation next month.

So, I'm taking another look at OneNote as a possible backup and/or replacement for Evernote should that become necessary. So far, I was liking it fine. Last week, I created a new Notebook in the Android version and a section and page under that. Last night, I went to OneNote for Win10 on the laptop, accessed that Notebook and created several new sections and a page under one of those. Computer was left running all night - not sure if OneNote was or not. This morning, that Notebook was missing. The More Notebooks link showed nothing. I opened OneNote 2016 (still makes no sense re an older non-supported version has to be used for certain functions) and did a File Open to find the missing Notebook. The Notebook was there, but all work done on it last night was gone. No conflicts. There is a lot I don't like about Evernote, but in 8 years, it has never, not once, lost any data. Since I'm already paying for it, I may use OneDrive for backup documents storage, PDFs and such, but OneNote just bit the big one. One thing that has come out of all of this, is I am rethinking my overall strategy. Evernote has always been my 'everything in one place,' place, but I've started changing that strategy. I am slowly moving toward documents, notes, and email being treated differently. I'm not sure if this will stick, but it's what I am experimenting with. Email clients are very good at organization and searching, so I'm leaving most of those in place. I'm still waffling on what documents I want in Evernote for easy retrieval, versus in long-term storage like OneDrive or Google Drive. Hopefully, this all becomes a moot point.