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I assume you are referring to a desktop version? Windows? Which version of windows? More details would help. In general, this has been answered many times, but you can go to filehippo and look for the windows desktop Evernote Legacy version (sometimes referred to as Evernote 6.25). However, the newest version (v10) should not be as slow as you are claiming. Granted it's somewhat slower than Legacy but if you feel that something is wrong you may have another issue. You can have both Legacy and v10 on your windows desktop at the same time and thus compare their speeds.

Well, the term “ginormous” is a little unfair. A 3000 page compressed pdf takes up less data than a 30 second tik tok video of my cat drinking from the toilet.

I think I have located the problem. It works on a win 10 machine but not on a win 7. So if i want to export notes on v10, those notes will show up as pdfs on my win 10 machine but not on my win 7. On win 7 all i see are those impenetrable files that need to be manually opened to disgorge the pdf within. Strange.

Not sure if I'm understanding your question. Most of my "growing pdfs" are not exported but are added to. For example, my note "Chase Bank" includes about 7 accounts there. Each one of them is represented by a pdf file eg: "Chase bank", "Chase Mortgage", "Chase Credit Card" etc. Each one of these pdfs represent monthly statements going back 10 years or more. All my statements are automatically sent to EN through a file service previously described. When I receive this month's statements for a Chase account I simply append it to the end of that "growing" pdf. I do the same for all my banks, credit cards, home related statements, business invoices etc. Everything is chronologically added to the end of the relevant pdfs. For example, my employees payroll pdf is 3000 pages and stretches back for years. Even though I use a fancy payroll service I can more easily resolve any issue within minutes by searching that pdf. In some cases, I have notes in which the pdfs are piling up so fast that I don't even have time to concatenate them. For example, faxes that we send and receive, prescriptions that we write, invoices etc. After a while those notes are bursting at the seams with pdfs and we then need to export all of those to Acrobat where they are combined into giant pdfs. We then delete all of the individual pdfs in the messy notes and replace with the giant one. So a note with 200 individual pdfs from Amazon purchases becomes a note with one pdf (eg: "Amazon 1st quarter 2023") . We do this throughout the year and will wind up with 4 giant pdfs in that note which we then combine again in December ("Amazon 2023"). This workflow requires 100% dedication to the pdf platform, familiarity with Acrobat, multiple Fujitsu scansnap machines, and converting absolutely everything to pdfs (wife and cat included).

Yes, when you combine 1000 pdfs that are 6 pages each, you get one pdf that has 6000 pages. Often under 10MB when compressed with Acrobat. These are searchable, annotatable etc. Bits and pieces of them can be copied and sent to relevant team members. They can be removed from EN annually and sent to online storage. Saving in this way allows you to be sloppy ie: everything is OCRd and easily searchable. Can you tell Im a big fan?

Yes, it's an error in semantics. I would have expected a new version of Legacy also. However, the clue is in the 10.57.5 ie: Legacy stopped at version 6.25. When most of us refer to the "new" Evernote we often say v10.

So, let's say that you have 100 more of those kinds of notes. Each one containing a pdf . Now, let's say you want to combine all of those into one pdf. How would you do that? If you are using v10 on a windows desktop then you can ask it to export those 100 notes to a directory on your hard drive. When those files arrive there they will look like this evernote(1), evernote (2), evernote (3) etc. You will not be able to combine them unless you open them one by one, line them up and then use a third party pdf app to merge them. There is no third party app right now that is able recognize "evernote(x)". I hope that makes it clearer. Anyway, it seems as if I will have to change my workflow or look into a Mac for the time being.

Pink. If this indeed does work it would be wonderful. Although I'm a PC based person I could certainly invest in one Mac and do my pdf based operations on that. I will investigate that as a modality. I've always resisted Mac since the rest of my personal and business life is on PC, but that could change. Thanks once again for all your excellent advice. Addendum: I just purchased a Win 10 computer because v10 will not update any longer on Win 7. Based on this last thread I should have bought a Mac instead!

CalS, perhaps we are miscommunicating. If you have 3 notes with 3 pdfs you can select them and Export to a directory on your computer. What you will see there is something that looks like this: To find the pdf buried within these things you have to double click on each one. Only after doing that is your pdf revealed. Therefore, even if I save these "evernote(x)" files into gdrive, or Mega or wherever I want, they will not be decipherable to any third party software (eg:Acrobat). I literally have to open each one separately and extract the pdf from within. Hence, no ability to merge hundreds of these like I used to do with Legacy (in which "save attachments" literally saves the raw pdfs and not that strange structure).

Good thought. Unfortunately, doesn't work. I can send those "evernote(x)" files to G drive but once they're there it's the same problem. No software seems to know what they are. With regard to checking Ibis or Novotel, that would work well if you have a rough idea where or when you stayed there (so you could find the exact pdf out of many possible pdfs). Last year I wanted to stay at a hotel at Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris and I remembered that I stayed at a wonderful place there many years ago. I was able to search within that single pdf file for "Charles de Gaulle", "CDG", "Novotel", "Ibis" etc and within 1 minute I realized it was the Novotel. This way of doing things works for me because my long term memory is very bad and I can't remember months, years or names. However, within one pdf file I can find pretty much anything if I change the search paramaters.

Of course, this approach would be next to impossible if you were running a business, such as mine, in which invoices to your clients need to be concatenated. If client X wants to check on their billing history, credits etc I can use our practice management software but I can just as easily find it in our pdf. Evernote has proved indispensable in my business, personal and financial life mainly in the way that I can concatenate large amounts of information into single pdf files, annotate and manipulate them etc. I suppose that, perhaps due to the expense or learning curve of Acrobat, many users are not taking advantage of these techniques. I would say that 90% of my EN usage is along these lines.

The reason why I am posing this question is that recent changes between Legacy and v10 have made manipulating pdf files a lot more difficult. I won't go into that now because I've howled enough about it elsewhere. However, it did make me curious as to why other users were not so affected. And that made me think that my algorithm of searching documents could be improved. For example, like all of us, I receive statements every week from banks, vendors, utilities, credit cards etc. As an example: credit card statements. Every month when I get that statement I append it to a growing pdf of all the previous statements from that card. Therefore, the current pdf contains about 10 years of previous statements. This is incredibly useful because if I am researching something that I purchased years ago, or simply want to remember a hotel or item that I used a long time ago, I can take that one pdf and do a simple search. It will find every instance of the item throughout the years. Likewise, a search of "MSFT" on my Schwab pdf will bring up every purchase of Microsoft stock that I ever made at Schwab investment bank. For tax purposes, I can see every "lot" of MSFT that I purchased since 2007 along with its price at that time. I do NOT have to sift through dozens of individual pdf files for any of these searches because I have used Acrobat every month to combine these files. Likewise, there are times that I may combine hundreds of pdf files at the same time eg: Amazon purchases, faxes from server, a messaging service that transcribes voice mails into pdfs, invoices we sent to clients etc. Every 6 months or so I may simply and rapidly combine hundreds of these using Acrobat. So if I need to review a fax that I received 4 months ago regarding a specific patient, drug, insurance company etc I can search for it on that one pdf that I store all my faxes. Also, every year or two I can take these enormous pdfs from my cards, banks, ulilities etc and move them over to Gdrive so that they don't clutter my EN. So, apparently, am I the only one using such techniques? Are there better ways of achieving this? The move from Legacy to v10 has eviscerated the ability to do this and I am wondering why there are not more voices howling in protest about this particular point? Which made me think, perhaps I just need to move away from this system and use whatever other system is working well for most others on this forum.

It seems as if the pdf file is sitting inside of a packaged structure which is not viewable by other software. The packages are labelled "Evernote", "Evernote 1", "Evernote 2" and so on. When you double click on those you can see each pdf that is contained within. This means that you have to extricate one by one to work with them. Hence, unable to merge hundreds at the same time. I came up with the bright idea of seeing whether there was a third party app that would be able to penetrate the outside structure of these packages and remove them (much like an antibacterial kills the bacteria's cell wall). I tried various file converter softwares in the hope that they could decode these packages. Nothing so far has seemed to work. My hope is that I can find something that will recognize the packaging structure and remove it en masse so that the underlying pdf or other files become exposed and available. In fact, somebody could perhaps eventually write a simple software to do this? Obviously this is not my field, so I may be on the wrong track entirely, but here's hoping!

I am using many "expired" software packages and machines which the manufacturers have decided not to support. For example, I still use Quickbooks 2009 and Quicken which are extremely stable, not cloud based, can be used on any number of computers and works 100% perfectly for my needs. I still use win 7 on many of my machines (which do not contain any sensitive data) and it works perfectly. I actually have win 10 on other machines and don't like. I use Adobe Acrobat X on multiple computers and like it way more than their recent predatory versions. Also, I can use it on multiple machines for free. Lastly, I have a lot of medical based equipment that works great even though the manufacturers tell me that they have "sunsetted" . These analogies may not apply to EN Legacy because I can continue to use older technology as long as they can't be deprecated to the point where they no longer work. After all, Microsoft, Adobe, Intuit can not physically do anything about the equipment or software that I continue to use. Legacy, on the other hand, depends on active sync structure which, if deprecated, will put an immediate halt to its functionality. And now, v10 is telling me that it will not update anymore on Win 7 machines. Therefore, I have had to purchase some win 10 machines and am now using v10 on those. I think that v10 is perfectly fine for most things and is much better than outside solutions. However, as I have stated before I simply can not understand how EN users who are highly dependent on pdf manipulations will get along with v10. I have had discussions with EN tech support and, for now, there is no way to "save attachments" as Legacy does which allows us to instantly place unlimited number of files into directories so that we can have Acrobat merge them etc. The new v10 exports notes to my PC's directories in a strange packaged structure in which the actual pdf is sitting inside the package and is not recognizable by Adobe or even by any other software. If you are not dependent on a workflow which heavily uses PDFs and manipulates them, I cannot see any major downside to v10. Every other objection is just minor niggling which can be tolerated or avoided in other ways.

Yes, it's the Battlestar Galactica option ie: the old legacy medical equipment will run on Win 7 machines not connected to the internet. The office networked win 7 machines will continue to run that way since there is nothing sensitive on those machines. Employees on those computers are simply accessing one or two websites all day. I am trying to figure out if I can swap out my personal win 7 station from that network and replace it with a win 10 or 11 machine. Change is annoying.

I am running about $300,000 worth of medical research equipment on win 7 computers. There is no upgrading these machines other than buying new ones. The support for these have sunsetted; if they die I simply need to cough up the cost of new ones. They work great and their newer win10 versions work no better. Also, we run legacy apps that our office has worked with for 12 years including Acrobat, our timekeepers, our messaging systems etc. Sure the handwriting is on the wall and I realize there is no avoiding it. However, everybody’s timeframe is different and I’m hoping to avoid a costly and messy set of conversions before retirement. Apres moi le deluge.

I am assuming that it is still normal to not have an actual "sync" button on the win desktop v10? I agree that sync from iphone to desktop is very rapid but EN legacy used to have an actual sync button. Just wondering if the people who are posting on very rapid sync experience are talking about how rapidly it appears on their desktop from their phones, or if they are seeing an actual sync button on their desktops which they are using to initiate that sync from the phone.

I reinstalled the last working version of v10 for windows and it now works fine. However, soon thereafter, I received a banner on my EN v10 So this tells me not to try updating EN again on this win7 computer. There are many reasons that people may not want to upgrade from Win7 and, in my case, it is not a financial one. I have a series of Win7 computers that are hooked to old legacy devices which are all working perfectly. Trying to run those old machines within a new Win10 environment may be impossible. In addition, we are also very happily using Adobe Acrobat on about 10 computers running win7. It works great but moving to win10 would force us into monthly Adobe subscriptions on all those computers. I have win10 running on my personal computers and see no advantages over win 7 on my work computers. So rather than experience huge headaches upgrading win 7 to win 10 I will continue with it as long as possible. I keep nothing sensitive on those win7 computers. If newer versions of EN continue to improve I will simply have to get a separate laptop running win10 and use that at work alongside the older win7 computers.

I guess that could be it. However, I remember in the past I always tried to see both calendars on EN and was always told that I needed to upgrade to another level if I wanted to do this. Now it suddenly works (even though I've not changed anything about the calendars).

Two separate google accounts.

So, if I double click on any of those files I see this: Theoretically speaking, I should be able to request that it always opens these kinds of files with Acrobat, but this option is not active (not sure why) Anyway, if I select "Acrobat" it opens up the pdf file just fine. The problem is that I often have 20 of these files that I want to combine into one big file, and this means I have to do this 20 times and then combine the pdfs. This used to be a 30 second process on Legacy but is much more laborious on v10. I work in an office where we generate 30 pdfs/day on various individual accounts and then combine them at the end of the day. At the end of the month we combine the daily ones. At the end of the year we combine the monthly ones. So, we are constantly generating pdf files, merging them etc. As long as I have Legacy we can continue to do this. After that, who knows?

Thanks Dave, I still foster a hope that they will simply fix this issue and allow the same functionality. I don't see why it shouldn't work. For example, on v10 when I choose "export" I can send the files to a directory and they look like this. Every one of these files is actually a pdf (when I click any one of them it asks me if I want to open them with Adobe acrobat). I can see each and every one of the pdfs but Acrobat can not combine them unless I extract the individual pdfs out of that external wrapping. So frustrating. Therefore, there is a technical issue here that should be solvable once the files appear as actual pdfs (as they do with Legacy) and not wrapped in an external "evernote(X)" coat. With regard to how we all use EN I agree that note taking is the primary use factor. However, I now use it for all my tasks, reminders, web captures, calendar (somewhat) etc. For years I've been using it to store all my bills, statements and other paperwork in pdf files. So, although I agree that it can't do everything, there's no reason why it shouldn't replace as many third party solutions as possible. I get that EN is not Gdrive, but it is not unreasonable to expect people to want to store the paperwork that they use on a daily basis in pdf based notes amenable to manipulations with Acrobat. I have already opened up a ticket with EN but they were unable to help. I'll keep waiting and hoping.

I have mentioned this before in other threads so I won't beat a dead horse over it. I use both EN v10 and Legacy on a daily basis. I like them both and we have discussed the pros and cons already many times. As many other people have states I go straight to Legacy whenever I have serious work that needs to be done. I stay on v10 at all other times. There is some "serious work" that I absolutely cannot do whatsoever on v10. I have posted this many times and Pink and others have tried to help but nothing has worked. In Legacy I can selct a bunch of notes with pdfs and I can choose to "save attachments". This will immediately save those attachments into whatever directory I choose. They look like this: I can then use Adobe Acrobat to combine these pdfs into one large one: This sequence is IMPOSSIBLE with v10. Yes, I know that different people have suggested fixes or work-arounds etc but they do not fix it and there is no way around it. For some reason v10 saves a kind of file that cannot be manipulated the same way with Acrobat. This is a non-issue for many people; however, since I do this at least 10X/week this is a serious issue for me. My work flow is based entirely around generating hundreds or even thousands of pdf files and combining and manipulating them in many ways. Most people may not work this way, but I do. This is why Legacy has remained an almost neccessary part of my workflow and I use v10 for everything else.

Until now I was not able to link more than one Google calendar onto my win EN desktop. It may have been a limitation of my subscription (Evernote Personal). Today I noticed, for the first time, that I could link two calendars. Not sure when it changed but it's a welcome addition since I have both work and personal calendars on Google Calendar and now I see them both.

I am still running windows 7 pro and have not had any problems with EN desktop (on two computers). However, today I tried to upgrade to the latest version and I received an error "the procedure entry point GetPackageFamilyName could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll". I was able to locate EN v10.46.7-win ddl-public (3701) and this seems to work fine. I submitted a ticket to support. Just wondering if anyone else has encountered this? There are certain computers that I need to have win 7 pro on for various reasons and I'm always afraid that eventually these won't support the latest versions of EN. So far, it's been OK.