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I am having better luck using the Zapier service, using the GMail --> Evernote rule. The message content isn't visible by default, but you can add the {{message}} field to include it. I'm using the following as my Evernote note content: To: {{to_name}} ({{to_address}}) From: {{from_name}} ({{from_address}}) Subject: {{subject}} Date: {{date}} Message: {{message}}

Duplicating a note as a general strategy doesn't scale too well. You can use note links to refer to a single note from multiple places, if you want. Unfortunately, note links need to be contained in a note in the Evernote system. Using tags, per BnF, is probably the best answer in the current Evernote.

Heh -- can't do that anymore, if you also include Business notebooks. Gotta keep those notebooks in their own corral.

These points are not lost; they are by now belabored -- everyone here (including Evernote) understands the desire for this feature, whether it be via LaTex or some other means. And I agree that it's valid to request such a feature. But Evernote has chosen other features as higher priority. Unfortunately so. I suppose that's ironic (though the forum software is a totally separate program, written by a different company), but did you know that you actually can also do subscript/superscript in the Evernote web client?

You may stack owned notebooks (not folders) and joined notebooks (notebooks shared to you) together, at least in the Windows client. You may not stack Business notebooks together with either of the previous two types of notebook. Tags may well be the answer, if properly applied.

Actually, they do. Just not on all clients.

Whoa, hey, computers get faster and more powerful!! Knock me over with a feather -- Gordon Moore, where are you now?? I did not get the memo. Burn your old desktops/laptops -- they're dead, dead, dead!! There's a new sheriff in town, and they call her Ms. Tablet.

You can. There are two of them: NixNote and EverPad. What you cannot have -- at least at this time -- is a native Linux client made by Evernote, because they have chosen not to write one. It's really that simple.

Remember also that Evernote can tell which clients are being used by which users (though maybe not which users are using, say, the Windows client in a virtual machine or under Wine), and would be in a position to know how big the Blackberry market is. Remember also that the Blackberry client is a development effort that's already happened, probably most of which was when Blackberry was a lot stronger in the marketplace. Whereas a Linux client would most likely be a whole brand-new port, with maybe some code carry-over from some other existing client, depending on which language they choose. Regardless, I see this as unlikely at this stage, knowing what they've said, and also the fact that there are now two third-party Linux clients out there.

Perhaps we disagree, perhaps I wasn't clear, but I don't think that we need to argue the point. It's certainly a valid choice; your opinions (including lobbying for nested folders) are welcome here, full stop. It's all a practical matter to me. You don't have arbitrarily nesting of notebooks in Evernote, but you do have tags. That's a fact. And Evernote does understand that there are a number of people who want arbitrarily nested notebooks. They can't have missed the issue; there's plenty of forum discussion relating to the idea. But they have chosen not to deliver it to date. That's also a fact. So in dealing with folks who lobby for nested notebooks (some of whom do not understand the expressive power of tags, some of who clearly do), I feel compelled to let them know that tags are what are available in Evernote, and they are really very useful. If they weren't, I wouldn't be using Evernote. As far as I am concerned, tags are how you do organization in Evernote, if you're doing explicit organization. If that's a defense (or 'defence'; vive la difference! ), then so be it. Ultimately, I'd rather focus on how to use the tools that we have in hand today. Let's face it, if Evernote were to offer nested notebooks, how many of those 'cautious users' would actually make the transition? Not many, I'd guess; they'd just continue to use their familiar folders. GMail doesn't cater to that audience either, for that matter. And it's not just a matter of simply adding nested folders; there's a whole raft of underpinnings that would need to be changed across the entire Evernote architecture, plus a lot of UI changes that would need to be made across the range of clients. I don't see it happening any time soon, though obviously that's not my choice. My guess is that Evernote, as a company (but who knows about renegade Evernote employees? ), doesn't believe that it needs to offer nested notebooks to be useful.

Nobody said that it isn't a legitimate action. However, you need to be prepared for it to take some time before they deliver such a feature (and they may never do so), and put up with a product that doesn't do what you want in the meantime. So in the here and now, you pretty much have only two practical choices.

Nested notebooks is a long-standing request. Evernote has chosen not to offer it as a feature (though you can put multiple notebooks into stacks). For the time being at least, it would probably be better to try to come to terms with tagging as an organization tool.

Yes, I think that most of us understand all of that. And it's a valid request, but Evernote chooses not to offer this feature. Please refer to the copious amount of discussion on the topic in the forums. And in the mean time, I'd suggest giving tags another look (and yes, you can nest tags).

I think I figured that out when I did a filter on a stack, and then saved it as a saved search. Hope it helps with BitQwik!

Hey, whoa, funny thing about that. You can actually organize tags in Evernote, yes, in a hierarchical fashion. "Gettouttahere", I can hear you say. But it's true -- it may be a little-known secret in Evernote that you can do this, why they've only been in place for two or three years. Well who knew?? But yes, you can position them, in perceived and visual space. Sort of like... um, ... those things... you know.. like.. um... oh, yes. Folders! Those totally concrete constructs, folders, why, I can reach right out and touch them. Well you can do that with tags in Evernote, too, right? Right? And now back to what I actually meant: the reason that I wrote what I wrote is that he did say this: " tags seem abstract to me. Maybe I just don't get tags, yet." I totally got that they are abstract to him. I took it as a sincere statement. That's why I offered several analogous concepts, across several disciplines, that he might be able to better hook onto mentally: labels (used by GMail, as well as having physical analogues), categories (Outlook), keywords (science and academia), adjectives (natural language constructs that all English speakers should be familiar with). And you can organize them visually and hierarchically in Evernote, just like folders in a file system. But here's the bonus: you can do things with tags that you simply cannot do with notebooks. And that was the point of the simple illustration I included. Please feel free to point out, via quote, where I or anyone else said that folders were wrong. I doubt very much that you'll be able to.

According to the Evernote folks (Dave Engberg, I believe), stacks were added mainly for the ability to organize your notebooks in the UI. Working with a straight list of 100 (the limit then, now it's 250) wasn't that great. So in some sense, stacks are artificial (but then again, what part of Evernote isn't?? ). At some point (can't remember exactly when), the ability to search against a stack using the stack: term was added to the search grammar. So in that sense, stacks are supported at a deeper level than the mere cosmetic.

Tags are not particularly abstract; they really are nothing more than labels that you can apply to a note: think category, or keyword, or even adjective. Tags are generally more flexible than notebooks because while a note belongs to exactly one notebook, a note may have more than one tag. So you can cross-categorize (i.e., categorize using more than one categorization scheme) notes using tags, whereas with notebooks, you are pretty much stuck with one categorization scheme. So for example, if you were to wanted to categorize your books (one note per book), you might make be interested in categorizing by author, and by genre genre. Doing that strictly using notebooks wouldn't be all that great; do you have notebooks for each author, or for each genre, But some books have multiple authors, and some authors write in multiple genres. Instead, use tags, and you can apply author tags and genre tags as needed.

Not really sure that I want more power or responsibility, outside what a moderator can do. I started out on the old forums, learned a little bit about Evernote from other users, thought that Evernote was a cool idea, got into the discussion, and lo, it just sorta became a 'thing'. I like to help out because I still think that Evernote is cool & useful, but sometimes it's a little bit unapproachable for new folks, and if I can pitch them a hint or two, then maybe they'll think it's cool/useful too. That being said, I'm not obligated to be here every day; I can respond to as many or few posts as I care to, and I don't need to worry about it. I have a job, and that's enough, this is mainly for fun, though there's enough interesting ideas around Evernote that it's interesting to me.

My take on this is that I would rather have sort order be specifiable in the search grammar, so that we could persist them in saved searches. This would allow me to sort notes that go together in an appropriate fashion, whatever notebooks they reside in. if The sticky point for having notebooks be able to specify their sort orders is what do you do if you're displaying notes from two or more notebooks that have different ordering? Fall back to the global sort order, maybe?

As it happens, not one of the evangelists claims that Evernote "can do no wrong", but since we have no real power to change anything and don't really know much more about Evernote's internal goals than any other user, we find it's usually more realistic to deal with the way that Evernote exists currently and offer workarounds. If that comes off as defending the company overmuch to you, so be it. *shrug* Of course, if you want to help out the community, you're welcome to teach by example; I can tell you that the condition of evangelitis is pretty much self-inflicted.

You might try checking your activity log (Help / Activity Log) around the times you are experiencing the delays; that might shed some light. Best bet is probably to file a support request. See the link in my signature.

Yes, that's probably the best way forward in cases like these, where Evernote probably doesn't see the need as being great enough to justify the effort. The problem is making it worth the effort to 3rd-party devs (noting that some of them do it for the best reason, which is "just because I needed it and thought that it would be useful to others").

No way that I know of -- in-note find is text only as far as I can tell.

Is there some reason that tags do not give you that extra level of organization that you need?

Thanks for posting the requested quotes. So here's what you asserted. Here's your quote: You should note that "those of you who think tags are a better solution" (which itself is a quote from Vlaak, the original poster) actually refers to people like BnF, not people arguing for sub-notebooks. In other words, BnF is saying "It doesn't matter what I think, it's how Evernote functions". Did you misunderstand this? So I'm not sure how this relates; this isn't arguing again people posting at all (if by this you mean "arguing that people should post"; your sentence is a little unclear). It's really an explanation that if you want to use Evernote well, you need to deal with the reality of how Evernote works today, not how you wish it would work, which is sensible advice. But there's nothing saying that people can't make suggestions. I saw no-one at claiming that suggestions are not welcome. Here's what you asserted. Here's your quote: Again, sensible advice. If you use a tool (or any product, really), and it doesn't work the way that you want it to, then you're well-advised to use another on, or at least seek alternatives. How is that saying, at all, that it doesn't matter what a poster thinks? Here's what you asserted. Here's your quote: I think that the relevant statement is "It doesn't appear that this will change any time soon". This sounds like an opinion to me, one that's based on over 4 years of observing Evernote's actions, and the evolution of Evernote's products. And that's really what we have to go on -- our own experiences and observations, as Evernote do not tend to release planned feature changes. BnF doesn't know whether they'll add them any time soon, of at all, I don't and neither do you. I'm sorry, but I don't think that your quotes backed up what you claimed.