MrIllustrator

When I say I’d like the iPad version of Evernote to be more mac OS like what I mean is for the iPad version to support the same keyboard shortcuts as the desktop version. Command J for instance, remember that? I’m not asking for any type of re-write of the app, just the very basics, Keyboard commands.

Thank you Gazumped, To sum up below so you don't have to read all this rubbish I've written: You can't backup Evernote 10. You can stop here if you like because too much has been said about a very simple answer, unless I'm wrong of course. If you want to read the explanation, read on: That's very interesting Gazumped, thank you and what I was worried would be the case. I follow a logical backup strategy that ensures all my data is triple safe, different locations/software/hardware backing it up. What you are saying is that Evernote is outside my backup system and everyone else's for that matter, just as I was worried it was all along. This is of course not acceptable. So if a new installation of Evernote can't use the Evernote folder in the application support folder to re-instate itself then it's of no use to me as a backup as DTLow implies it is, according to what you have just told me, it's not. Also If I'm expected to individually export all my 27 notebooks (most users have many more) it would simply not be done by me or just about 99.9% of existing Evernote users at a guess so again that's no good for me or anyone else. Personally I'm okay for now because I, like yourself am running the Classic version on another computer but when that classic version is made to stop working I won't have a current backup of my Evernote data then and it will continue to go more and more out of date using version 10 (for all intents and purposes un-backup able) until if something goes wrong I'm stuffed, like everyone else. This is a terrible system to work to. We must all have reliable backups ourselves, under own own control and not rely on a third party whoever they are. Surly this must go without saying. I must always have multiple backups of all my data because it's important and I value it. It's amazing to me how many people don't even consider backing up the most basic of their irreplaceable work. I know friends and family that have lost wonderful family photos, birth photos amongst others because they were on their phone and they didn't back it up. Memories lost for ever. That's bad enough, I'm also talking about very important information to me. I do get the feeling some time that Evernote think we just put silly little notes in it and to do lists and that's it. I'm afraid I don't, my whole life is on there. Again, you see, I ask a simple question on this forum and I get multiple conflicting answers from very experienced clever people. I asked a question a few months ago and got a similar responce about security with my notes, conflicting answers from very clever experienced users, I gave up with that one because everyone was sure they knew the answer but they were all not just different but conflicting. I'm talking level 5's with thousands of posts to their names. This is one of the most frustrating forums I've ever visited. I'm sure it's to do with the software not the users. So to sum up if anyone is following this about how to backup your Evernote 10 data = for the normal average user "You Can't" For instance: Gazumped, you say you have around 300 note books, how regularly are you individually exporting these? I've only exported my 27 or so notebooks once because it's a complete pain, the opposite of what a backup strategy should be. That's what I've got from these answers so far. I can't consider individually exporting 27 notebooks on a regular basis and, (I heard of one user having thousands of notebooks) is someone really going to tell anyone with a largish number of notebooks to do this, it can't be defended by any stretch of the imagination. Again, thank you everyone for your time. The only thing is, all I really needed anyone to say is the simple answer to my question: You can't backup Evernote 10. That's the answer for the vast majority of users then. In real life, it simply won't happen. No one in their right minds should rely on, or defend, a third party cloud service that insists that you keep all your eggs, sorry valuable data in one very fragile basket. If it's in one place it's not backed up is it.

Thank you DTLow & Pink Elephant, I am having problems though, first of all, DTLow, I don't have a Library folder in my user folder, so I did a search in my user folder and I also don't have a Application Support folder in there either, so I'm sorry I can't follow your simple path to what you say. Update, minutes later, for anyone trying to follow this, I've just found the application support folder by doing the following because it's actually hidden by default in the finder: See procedure below: Specific for User Open the Finder Click on the 'Go' menu in the top menu bar. Hold down the 'Option' key on the keyboard 'Library' should appear in the menu between 'Home' and 'Computer' There you will find the 'Application Support' folder. 🙂 Having done this I then found an "Evernote" folder inside the "Application Support" folder correctly and checked the file size and see that it probably could be my data because it's 9.4gb in size though opening it shows nothing I understand as a backup. The question is of course then, if something goes wrong with the cloud Evernote end would a new install of Evernote application be able to access this local data and start again without having to go onto the internet looking for the files that may no longer exist because of some distant corruption/problem with some unknown Evernote server computer. Pink Elephant, Thank you I knew about the exporting of individual notebooks but I was looking for a simple, non thinking backup like everything else I backup on my computer. I and just about everyone else will not do that procedure regularly because it just takes too long and my setup is relatively simple with only 27 notebooks, I know some users have many many more so wouldn't even attempt it that way so would never ever backup. For the moment because it's so much better I run a Classic version of Evernote on a separate computer for own pice of mind and sync it so I know I can access the data on that old computer correctly and easily, I was really interested in the safety and feasibility of keeping your data save in the new version 10+ You see I ask a simple question and it goes on and on. It boils down now to, "Is that Evernote folder in my application support folder" a proper backup of all my data that could be accessed by a clean installed Evernote 10+ for when Evernote pull the plug on the classic working version which could be any time. Thanks for your valuable time.

I was also under the assumption that Evernote no longer held any local copy of your date on your computer but instead puts all your eggs in one unbackupable remote basket. You say that by default a full data copy is held on all computers but can be disabled in Evernote>Preferences. See screenshot of Evernote Preferences below, both of them. First of all can you tell me where on my Mac is this data copy held and secondly where in the two options in the tiny Evernote Preferences does it say I can disable this? Of course I don't want to disable this but just checking on what you are saying because this has been contradicted so many times before on this forum as you know, I need proof. Location for instance on my computer would be nice. My preferences as does everyone's gives you just two options. 1. Check Spelling While Typing & 2. Save Data and Log out. I'm running 10.15.6 Thanks

I am glad it’s back at last, thank you. It was missing for about a year wasn’t it. How long has version 10 been out now? Can’t remember. let’s hope many of the other essentials come back also in the not too distant.

It's back and it's working as I wanted it to. - "Command J" Just seen they have announced "Command J" is back though it was already in the previous version 10.13.4, just not working correctly. The update to 10.16.6 fixes what I didn't like where it didn't show tags, it appears to be working more quickly, prioritises Notebooks, then Tags then everything else which is what I'd complained it didn't do when I first found it in the previous version 10.13.4 So I'm very happy now, thank you for bringing it back and getting it working again.

It's Back ! This is very strange, I check in every version that comes out and it wasn't in 10.13.4 accept that it was in a menu someone pointed out to me thank you, they'd sneaked it back in half heartedly. (But no keyboard shortcut still) I looked again today, the same 10.13.4 version and the keyboard shortcut is now next to the menu where it wasn't before? Command J is back. How very strange indeed that is should appear in the menu later in the same version where it wasn't before. Anyway I'm glad it's back, it's quite slow though in responce, hopefully this will speed up in time. Well done for bringing it back, it's at last fixed one of my major gripes with the new version. Keep the good work up. (UPDATE)... it doesn't work correctly, I just tried to use it and it didn't work logically, for instance I type "Command J" and then type: AppleCare and I have a tag called AppleCare but it's not listed? This works correctly on my other computer that's running Evernote Classic (Before 10) instant and correctly shows up in the list. It's also quite slow taking about 3 seconds after hitting return to sort out what it wants to show me but missing the Tag from the options when it's either a notebook or a tag you're usually looking for with Command J is not very good at all. Needs fixing again. From my point of view Command J should prioritise Notebooks and then Tags and then everything else, to actually leave a tag out of the search result is completely wrong.

I just hope they fix it before they assign the keyboard shortcut because right now it’s not a patch on the previous Iteration

What on earth is Evernote playing at, this feature has been listed as "coming soon" as you know for as long as I can remember, now this, it's almost a joke, but I'm sorry I've been waiting so long for "Command J" I'm not laughing. Are they taking the Micky? I notice though this menu doesn't work correctly, as it should do when pressing the original Command J in the Classic version of Evernote. Maybe they just can't do it and are waiting to add the keyboard shortcut until they've actually figured it out correctly. The coders that used to work for Evernote that created this wonderful keyboard shortcut must have done a bunk, or just left in disgust at what they released last year, pretending that version 10 was an upgrade, which of course couldn't be further from the truth. Keep going guys, one day, maybe 2022/3 you'll figure it out, I'm sick of waiting, Coming Soon !

It’s been mentioned as coming soon for over 6 months!

I miss you CMD + J was it something I said ?

I'm not seeing anything if I right click on a notebook, I'm running version 10.7.6 No options come up.

Thank you gazumped and DTLow, You can see, every time I ask this question I get different answers. I thank you both but haven't you both contradicted each other. DTLow you say "A local copy is stored on our Window/Mac computers", is it that when you say "Our" you mean you work for Evernote and you mean their computers, not mine. & gazumped you say "your notes are held in temporary storage on your local hard drive while the software is in use. The storage is cleared when the app is closed." These could be two completely different answers to the question and you are both level 5 with loads of experience. Who's right? Thank you.

In version 10+ where is my data stored now. I keep hearing that it's no longer on my computer, is this true. If it is true it raises some important questions. 1. How do I back up my data. 2. Is it encrypted where it's stored. 3. Does anyone else have access to my private data. (I remember Evernote employees did at one stage, is that still true). I did to a search for the answer to this question but unfortunately could not find a definitive answer, there was lots of confusion amongst users.

I quite agree, it’s taking them far too long to bring in this essential keyboard shortcut, anyone that’s used it knows, it’s essential. If you haven’t used it you simply don’t know what you are missing.