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Unfortunately attachment links in V10 HTML are broken. I reported this bug more than 2 years ago, EN can fix it by just adding a single line of HTML to the attachment icon: <a href="my files/john doe.pdf" style="text-decoration: none;"> They promised me several times that they would fix it, but for some reason they refuse to do it. Today's data loss issues make a working HTML archive more urgent than ever. I'm willing to keep paying for Evernote, but they have to deliver what they promise in their feature list.

yep, exactly like that, on windows client, same version as well... edit: no problem if I select a notebook via filters

Is this a known regression? When I select a notebook, searching within it is denied with the pop-up message: "Permissions lost, you can no longer access notebook XYZ" (my translation...) It's only a search problem because I can still visit all the notes in the selected notebook without any problem. Also, a global search will still return all expected notes

database rebuild at the server side?

Perhaps AI cleanup is intentionally disabled until all data loss issues are resolved (to rule out possible data loss due to AI) ?

This hangup can be reproduced by quickly typing a few minutes into the Windows client. You will see that the Android client's RTE sync slows down and suddenly stops altogether. As mentioned earlier, changes made in the Android client will remain synced in the Windows client. It never recovers until you reopen the note in the Android client.

Sometimes android v10.52.1 RTE sync still blocks in one direction: edits on android client are still synced to windows and web client, but not in the other direction. After waiting for 5 minutes, closing the note and reopening it in the android client solves the problem. No data loss.

Forgot to mention: obsidian sync costs about the same as EN personal

In the mean time, I further investigated Obsidian in more detail. Import: I successfully imported a notebook of 3000 notes without data loss. Attachment links do work properly and what's more, even internal note links are imported properly (probably recovered from the note title because ENEX still doesn't save the note-id) security: Different from most note apps, Obsidian encrypts the vault on your device with a custom encryption key before it's sent to Obsidian's servers. This guarantees that no one—not even the Obsidian team—can access your notes search: your notes are searched offline since the server can't do it due to the encryption. The search is OK, it can even search for a substring inside a word, something EN can't do. Search inside PDF is not supported by obsidian yet, but there is a super search community plugin that can handle pdf and OCR. Other nice features: code syntax coloring canvas graph 1023 plugins, written by a very active community Export: since notes are stored as markdown files, it can be edited with any editor and it should be readable by any markdown viewer. With Pandoc you can convert the markdown to other formats. I need to further investigate this. Conclusion: overall I'm impressed and I agree Obsidian is a viable alternative indeed...

I just got the same problem on my android client with a captured photo

Yep, slimming down by relocating to Europe entirely is the only way to compete with indie developers of other popular note-taking apps, preventing further price escalation for existing users. I still don't understand why it took hundreds of Evernote employees to create a note-taking app, when I compare it to Obsidian or Joplin developed by only a few developers.

If markdown would be a real standard, it should be readable by any markdown reader, but unfortunately each notetaking app seams to have it's own markdown dialect 🙄

I know that I could change the links, but the Obsidian enex plugin should import properly without manual intervention afterwards...

Imported 3000 notes into Obsidian but attachments are not embedded into the note and/or the attachments links are not working edit: Importing attachments does work properly

...and how it handles export!

no note history when only adding, editing or deleting tasks. This can't be intended behavior...

yeah, and the sluggish electron framework forces developers to add much more complexity and vulnerability to achieve acceptable performance: fragile extensive long-term caching, a magnitude of threads and processes resulting in race conditions, deadlocks and data loss This is very different from a simple native implementation that is fast enough to keep a straight forward maintainable architecture without all these complicated tricks to fake an acceptable performance...

@Federico Simionato The data loss issues might be caused by external causes such as bugs in the YJS Y-Websocket framework that is used by RTE. Here is a very recent report about similar problems in another collaborative YJS application: "...This has been causing real issues with my site which uses slate-yjs for realtime collaboration and persistence. When the network switches/drops all subsequent changes are lost without so much as warning being raised to the user that they are offline, and the connection would usually never recover causing total user data loss in some instances..." https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247943 "...Basically, all websites and web apps that use websockets, such as your document editing and stock trading apps, will now lose data when your connection is disrupted...it's also worth pointing out that this issue now occurs in Chrome and Edge as well..." iOS/iPadOS/Safari MacOS does not detect loss of websocket connectivity after network change causing data loss https://discuss.yjs.dev/t/y-websocket-data-loss-on-iphone-ipad-macos-safari-when-network-changes/1876 "...This is not a y-websocket issue but an underlying issue in Webkit..."

Which "latest" version, hopefully v10.58.8 (for desktops) , manually downloaded from https://evernote.com/download as the automatic update lags several versions behind

which software version, device ?

Had they read these forums and all the outstanding bugs in more detail, they would have known in advance that the software was unstable and half-baked That said, I still believe the new owners are much more determined to fix all these issues. We just need to give them a little more time to get EN back on track. We can't expect them to fix something in 1 month that has gone wrong over several years...

So it seems that the data was never fully synced on the server?

Which date is corrupted: the creation date or update date? There is a known issue with update dates which change by just reading the note... edit: and which evernote version do you run?

Do you mean that the June notes from your phone were never synced before, that your phone was permanently offline last month? In that case, it 'll be difficult to recover these notes I'm afraid...

hmm, the proper operation should never depend on the speed/performance of a system. As long as the developers try to solve the data loss through speed improvements, the underlying race condition bugs will never be solved, only hidden.