GrumpyMonkey

Nor a lack of ability. I think you are quoting me here, right? Indeed. I think the Evernote developers (at least, in my experience) are extremely competent. I wouldn't be surprised if they are among some of the best in their respective fields. This doesn't mean they will make the "right" decisions (amazingly, they have not implemented all of my suggested changes). It does mean, though, that they have probably thought through all of this a lot more deeply than we have

Judging by the time stamps, I am guessing that you are responding to BNF here. Again, I don't think what she is saying is nonsense. Of course, I agree that they should aim for further growth and so forth, but I leave it to them to figure out how they want to allocate resources. I have no inside knowledge, so I cannot say if it is good or bad that they don't have encrypted notebooks yet. It is an issue for me, but I doubt I am representative of the larger user base.

The same could be said about users who seem to think because they want something, Evernote should give it to them. Or users who can't accept the fact that maybe, just maybe, Evernote has discussed said feature & either put a low priority on it (for whatever reasons - time/resources (translate: engineer hours), other/more pressing priorities, etc) or totally nixed the idea altogether. Evernote never really has been about storing sensitive data, although they do allow you to encrypt text in notes. There are a lot of other ways to store sensitive data, including encrypting it & putting the file in Evernote. There are true password managers that handle stuff like this brilliantly. The fact of the matter is, if this is a deal breaker for you, you need to find another app that better suits your needs. Good luck with your search. Please read the preceding two pages of user contributions expressing similar wishes as to the future functionality of the Evernote product before diving in here with your apologist Evernote defense, which seems largely based on the premise that a product cannot develop beyond what it once was. History proves you wrong on that count and the fact of the matter is there may well have been more people than you think, who stored sensitive data in Evernote and who have only now become aware of the capabilities of US industrial espionage. BNF has a right to her opinion on the topic, just as you do. This is a user discussion board. Let's discuss! I don't know that history proves anything, but I would say it is generally not terribly helpful with prognostication. I would say history is a great resource for understanding how things have become the way they are today. I am just speculating here, but the fact that Evernote lacks particularly strong encryption and has very few encryption options is probably a reflection of the vision that Evernote has of the service as something akin to your email account--ubiquitous access + a basic level of security. They don't appear to have been interested aiming to create a locked down environment. Several of the Evernote employees have a background in security systems, so it seems to be a choice, not an oversight. In this sense, BNF is correct, right? She is stating that this is how it has been, pointing out that Evernote employees probably aren't the incompetent or evasive figures the poster has portrayed them as, speculating that they will continue on this course, and suggesting that users might want to consider alternative solutions if they have strong security needs. Her comments seem reasonable to me. And, I can assure you that she reads nearly everything that is posted on this forum. Heck, with 11,000 posts, she's posted in most of the threads! Evernote might have signaled a shift recently based on the comments made by the CEO about upcoming encryption features. It will be interesting to see what happens. Personally, I'd like to see all kinds of improvements in security, including encrypted notebooks.

Hi. Welcome to the forums! Your suggestion has been made before, I am sure the developers have seen it, but no one is commenting, and they have a policy not to comment on anything behind the scenes, so you are unlikely to hear anything. My guess would be that this will not come to Evernote in the near future. Evernote has to work across platforms and it is based on a kind of website code called .enex, which isn't terribly adept with this kind of stuff (in my experience). It is probably possible to do, but unlikely. More importantly, I'd design your workflow around the app that is, not the app you want it to be, or the app it may become in the future. It's great to make suggestions (I do it on a daily basis!), but you never know if or when something will get implemented, and even if it comes to the app, it may not appear quite the way you want it. Basically, there are tradeoffs with any app (as I am sure you know), and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches adapting yourself to what's available. In this case, I'd say goodbye to collapsible outlines. Have you tried a Table of Contents (internal note links)? These can be a handy way of tying together a bunch of notes into one so that it functions much like a collapsible outline.

Whatever the numbers, there are undoubtedly more linux users than Windows RT ones (is it just called Surface or Surface 2 today?), and Evernote has an app for that, so I don't think it is just a numbers thing. It seems to me that, for whatever reason, Evernote decided early on (despite using Linux themselves, of course) not to extend official support to this platform. I don't know why, but I doubt this is going to change anytime soon. My recommendation would be to fund/support/build a third-party client. One already exists now.

Hi. We cannot share stacks. Sorry.

As far as i am concerned, the current encryption seems pointless, though in practical terms, even it is unlikely to be broken. I certainly wouldn't see any point in using it for a whole notebook when better levels of security are available. Ideally, we'll get this feature, it will use at least 256 bit encryption, and it will be zero knowledge.

It seems like a fair request to me, and I'd prefer it if Evernote had more notebook options, because that would likely increase its appeal. Personally, though, I don't use notebooks or tags for organization, and I've been getting along just fine. http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=367

My guess is that you won't see a fix anytime soon. Evernote will almost certainly wait for iOS7 to make any major updates to the app, and at the earliest, we won't see iOS 7 for another week or two. Even then, there is a beta testing process to go through, so I'd recommend following 42birken's advice.

Hi. Welcome to the forums. I am sorry to see that you have begun with an attack like this on your fellow users. I am an Evernote Evangelist, and I have been participating in this topic for a while. I don't think your criticism is accurate or fair. If you look back at my posts, like this one (http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/24043-how-to-sort-the-text-within-a-note/?p=181606), I think you'll see these criticisms don't fit well. But, attacks on your fellow users (Evangelists) aside, I'll address some of your other points. Evangelists are not self-appointed. They are chosen by Evernote in recognition of their contributions to the forums. I suppose you could debate how helpful we are, but we do try to express our opinions in a respectful manner. As for the "collective apathy," I don't see that in the comments. Some feature requests are more popular with users (including Evangelists) than others. This one seems good enough, but it just doesn't evoke much passion from me. Evangelists have no knowledge of what Evernote developers will do, and we don't have any more influence than you on them. They read these forums, and if you make a case for the feature, you may convince them to implement it.

You're welcome

Not just Phil, but even the people-in-charge don't know what is going on with the NSA. WaPo’s bombshell: Feinstein didn’t know about NSA’s audit of privacy violations The big story is that Congress, overseers of the NSA and guardians of the public’s privacy, seems to have zero idea of how many “incidents” there are. And that includes the congressional watchdog-in-chief — the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who did not receive a copy of the 2012 audit until The Post asked her staff about it. The NSA, it seems, really is an island unto itself inside the federal government. http://goo.gl/k7caQV You raise an important point about making an informed decision about our data. In my opinion, we will probably not know the full extent of surveillance and abuse for many decades to come, and once your data is turned loose, you have no control over it, and it will float around in data centers forever. It may already be too late for some people. For all we know, some of our data ended up in Russia with Snowden. I use the plural "data centers" here, because a lot of this data will escape from government servers through hacking, freedom of information requests, loss, and other means. It has happened before. It is happening. It will happen again. What happens when governments, corporations, and nefarious individuals (including those in the institutions) gain access to our "second brains"? This is some unsettling stuff. That's why I think it is a good idea for Evernote to institute something like this. The debate really isn't about what Prism does or doesn't do (interesting as it is), but about instituting a policy that (in large part) removes the "trust" factor from the equation. With a zero-knowledge encrypted notebook, Evernote wouldn't have access, their employees wouldn't, and neither would the government. We don't have to "trust" every govt. official (in several governments, if information sharing news is accurate). We take the power out of their hands and put it in ours. That seems like the safest course of action no matter how this Prism thing turns out.

If you are on Mac, just drag the files into a notebook. Earlier this week I created about 6,000 notes this way. The processing takes a while, so you might want to wait until you go to bed to get it going! However, it is a pretty simple process.

By the way, Google storage now has encryption. It seems to be roughly equivalent to what Dropbox already has as well. It might sound good to some people, but Google has the keys, so they can be legally compelled to turn your data over to a government and hackers can get a hold of it, so it is (in my opinion) nothing more than a false sense of security. This is not the encryption I want to see in Evernote (and it sounds to me in the interview that it isn't the encryption Evernote wants either). http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046802/google-to-encrypt-cloud-storage-data-by-default.html This is the kind of encryption I want from Evernote. A notebook encrypted in this manner with zero-knowledge encryption would be ideal. https://spideroak.com/faq/questions/23/ By the way, there is (as Phil mentioned in the interview) a lot of confusion out there about this Prism thing. I am no expert, so please correct me if I am wrong, but if Google holds the key, unlocks the door to your data, and hands the data to the government (as they are legally obligated to do in some cases), then how is their encryption of data on their servers addressing any of the privacy/security concerns that people have about the government over-reach? To my amateur mind, reporting that claims Google is somehow addressing these concerns (see the Verge, for example http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/16/4627232/google-cloud-storage-automated-128-bit-aes-security) sounds bizarrely misinformed, under-researched, and poorly analyzed. I truly hope this kind of (in my opinion) blather is not affecting the thinking folks at Evernote (like smoking the Halfling's weed, as Saruman would say).

Yep. Thanks again for finding that. If you want to know the exact spots where relevant stuff is said, see this post http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/39180-password-protect-evernote-in-total/?p=220064

For sensitive data, my recommendation is to use Evernote's local notebooks. When you need sensitive data on mobile devices, if you are using iOS, VoodooPad is nice (wifi or iTunes sync with no Internet). http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=288 Ideally, an encrypted notebook will be made available soon. Splitting data up (local/synced or VoodooPad/Evernote) is very inconvenient and inefficient. The alternative, though, is to expose your data (and that of any third parties you might have) to government(s) surveillance and subsequent loss to hackers / other countries (ask the US government where their military secrets went http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57586624/how-chinese-hackers-steal-u.s-secrets/).

I'm confused. There is no video and all of the note links are green on that page. Aren't yours? I think what Adjusting meant to say is that "Copy note link" ought to give you a green link (internal one) and "Share>Copy Share URL to Clipboard" will give you a blue link. If this is not happening, could you post a screenshot of a note with these odd links in it? Thanks! On that blog post they are all green, but the internal note links in my Evernote are blue when I select "copy note link". The only way I get the green links is by using the drag and drop method that you recommended (which is a good tip, thank you!) I can file a bug report for the blue links I keep getting Either way, I'd still love to be able to change the color of external links to something else. Wish there was more demand for it, it seems like I'm the only one Please do file a support ticket. A screenshot would also be nice As for note color links, I don't think there is very much demand for it. Sorry. However, I (and others) have a long-standing suggestion that would address your issue -- style sheets. We would like to be able to have user defined styles for our notes. If we gained this ability, you could change note links if you'd like. Any number of other apps on iOS and OSX give you this kind of control (note links included), so I think this is a fairly widespread feature request, even if people don't focus specifically on asking for different link colors. In a word: customizability.

I'm confused. There is no video and all of the note links are green on that page. Aren't yours? I think what Adjusting meant to say is that "Copy note link" ought to give you a green link (internal one) and "Share>Copy Share URL to Clipboard" will give you a blue link. If this is not happening, could you post a screenshot of a note with these odd links in it? Thanks!

Blue links are external links. Green links are Note Links (Note->Copy Note Link). Both show up as blue for me on Mac. Either way, It would be great to be able to change the colors. Not a fan of the blue The only blue that I get is if I copy the "share URL link." The note links should look green (see video). https://www.evernote.com/shard/s74/sh/7b9aee3d-4001-4ff9-afa4-709646ca5ef2/64dd1fecc797ff890c2c7800b0597698

That makes sense to me. I don't know how one would do that, though, outside of an app that is designed to display code that way. Maybe one of our other members knows of something.

Sure. http://www.amyeditor.com Why not use an editor on your device, though? What OS are you using?

I don't understand the question. You want an area to type plain text so you don't have to log into the forums? Could you explain a little more? Sorry.

If you find that it is working for you, then you are all set! For JavaScript, I don't think you'll run into any issues. you won't get the line numbers, though. One thing that I have recently discovered (I am a little behind the curve!) is that Android is wonderfully flexible, and you can have a video playing in one window while you take notes in Evernote. Amazingly, on my Nexus 7 I think I will be able to work a little more effectively than I do on my iPad (as soon as I swipe to change the window the sound and video stop). Testing this workflow out this week.

Hi. Welcome to the forums. I am not aware of any way to do that. Honestly speaking, I doubt there is enough of a user interest in this niche activity for Evernote to code it into the main app. However, I could see a third-party developer coming up with an integration to do it. My recommendation would be to stick with a text editor for code (depending on what you are doing), because Evernote doesn't handle Tabs well (if you use those) and it isn't exactly plain text, so you might run into issues. A text editor ensures that everything goes smoothly for you. That said, Evernote can be a great place to store code snippets (as .txt attachments).

You should use a true password manager for this type of info. Well again its all about convenience and who do you trust. Lastpass was hacked 2 years back. Evernote makes it easy to store information and find them. Even though i dont condone people to store things like password out in the open, but evernote certainly has the ability to store sensitive information. The encryption feature is also great but sadly its on "Per note" basis and not on entire account or notebook. A simple passcode lock will certainly add an extra layer of security on the existing secured and awesome Evernote. Hi. I don't think LastPass was ever certain if they got hacked or what was taken, right? My understanding is that whatever happened, if the evildoers got a tiny amount of encrypted data (usernames and passwords), it hasn't apparently resulted in anyone's account actually getting hacked. Evernote does a lot of great things, but when it comes to encryption and passwords, I think LastPass is going to come out ahead in any comparison. That's because they do it for a living. For example, Evernote doesn't offer strong encryption of data (64-bit). As for the password protected account on the Mac, I think it is really just for show, because anyone with physical access to your computer could just open Spotlight and comb through your stuff. Every Mac has far better protection (separate user accounts and filevault) than Evernote could possibly design into an app. That's just my opinion, though. I didn't follow up on that news. But all i am pointing out is, even the most secured services may be hacked by sophisticated attacks (be it lastpass, evernote or gmail). A group of people may track down the data centre of Evernote and walk out with their servers that contains user information. But Is it a likely scenario? No. But A user leaving his computer unlocked for 5 mins and a co-worker/friend snooping into the Evernote is a more likely scenario...and also a scenario that can be easily stopped by adding a basic passcode. 64-128 bit encryption is great, and I am sure eventually evernote will do more R&D on those areas to prevent unauthorised access. They have well over 200million in funding to date and also looking to go IPO in 2015. So I am sure all those money will eventually go somewhere to make the product more secured for sophisticated external hacks. Good points. Regarding your scenario, to put my advice another way -- secure your device and Evernote will be secure. If I were in your scenario, I could do far more to protect myself now than Evernote could do with all of their money and R+D. I think Evernote would agree (http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/1716-make-encryption-global/?p=18623). How? I have a hot corner (see your preferences) set so that just swiping into the corner of the screen shuts the screen off. It takes less than a second and the entire computer is locked. Even if it were stolen, the drive is encrypted (filevault), so it is pretty unlikely anything (not just Evernote) would be compromised. If someone wants to use your computer, just tap your name in the upper right hand corner, select the guest account (see your preferences) and you are secured. The hot corner is a great idea. I think I am going to do that too. I agree with all the encryption and user switching. I use both. But my point still remains -- When my evernote app is closed, and I am away from my computer for 2 mins (without a screen lock) -- Someone can come and sit on my chair, Find evernote in applications ...open it and note down my information...close evernote and leave. A passcode creates an addition layer of security so that when the application opens -- my notes are not straight away visible. Think about it...If you leave your computer unattended for even 2 mins today, and your screensaver/lock doesnt kick in (or you forget), I can go and open your evernote and see whats in there. Regardless of all your encryption and security setup, you cant stop me Depending on what you have stored there you would either care or not care. For my case - i think its absolutely necessary. So I am rooting for a Passcode lock. A "simple passcode lock" does pretty much nothing except keep out the casual user. IE, a guest in your home who has access to your computer. It won't keep out a hacker. Exactly. It won't keep out hackers and it doesn't need to. I am talking about those "Casual users" who can come to my computer today and read my stuff. With a Passcode lock, they can't access my evernote. Well, I always lock my computer, so the two minute unattended computer just doesn't happen. Why? It only takes a flick of my finger (hot corner > screensaver). If Evernote did provide password protection, you'd have to remember to lock your app with a passcode as well, so I don't see the difference. In fact, you can log out now and achieve the exact same result. Evernote would be developing something that gives you less security than you have now along with more hassle (how are they going to improve on a flick of the finger that locks up everything in my computer within a nearly impenetrable file vault?). I'm afraid I don't see the appeal. BUT, that's cool. I don't make the decisions around here. I'm just another user like yourself. Evernote staff read these forums, so they'll see your request.