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I would be interested in seeing some type of status update as well, though it is uncommon for them to do so. I don't think I've seen EN commit to editor improvements "at the same time." I believe each OS has its own development team so these are being rolled out independently and I suspect that individual OS nuances make some editor changes more challenging than others so the feature rollout is different. I'm a Windows user and have definitely seen editor improvements on that platform though I look forward to future enhancements.

I agree and would like to understand this request better too. When the OS provides a way to lock (I'm thinking iOS, don't know about Android), why is it needed at the app level? I've seen this request in the Windows desktop forum and am just wondering what I'm missing. I was puzzled when it was introduced for iOS.

Well, it was "your" response to @David Reed that started the tangent. The other posts were just comments and clarifications based on that. If you want to police the forums and keep them on topic I would suggest that you first look internally.

Yes, I suspect @David Reed was just commenting based on his subjective reading of the forum over time. The point I was trying to make is that the voting mechanism can "not" be used as an indicator of the most requested feature since it is newly implemented and does not capture the years of customer input that occurred on this forum before the voting mechanism existed. I would agree that it can be used as "some" indication of current desire but even then, the voting system, as currently implemented, has problems as others have indicated.

In addition to GM's comments the voter mechanism (warts and all) is relatively new and doesn't capture or reflect the years of prior requests.

Well ... another explanation is that you are doing something wrong. I'm not a big user of shared notes or notebooks but when I've tried it has worked fine. There are many here that manage a second account that way, so sharing does work. If this is more than just a vent and you truly want some help, provide more details on specifically what you are doing and I'm sure someone will be glad to offer assistance.

After viewing the current season of House of Cards and OITNB ... meh ... I'm in agreement.

FWIW, in my experience of the industry, this isn't exactly how it works. It is the product managers and marketing team's role to determine the product direction, what is needed, what will sell ... etc. The engineering team (programmers, architects ..), are the implementers. Yes, they influence the product and help nudge it in a certain direction but it is their job to deliver the vision that is set. When done well you have a product that meets the company's objectives, customer needs and is profitable. When done poorly you get Work Chat and the product manager goes off looking for a new job.

That's for sure . I would start with the keyword "movie" and go from there . I don't have the discipline to pull that level of tagging off for the long term, but I do admire those that use very structured tagging methods. It is always interesting to me to see how others use the service.

@Shan McDonell Ok, moved. Click the counter in the title to vote up.

Not me but what platform are you on so this can be moved to the appropriate product feedback forum where other users can vote this up if desired?

and the slow down in performance that would occur. I echo this concern as well since there are already concerns with how Evernote will scale over time with increasing databases. Not remembering the exact words has happened to me as well and when I do eventually find the note I just add the first couple of keywords that I first tried to the title so that next time I'll find it quicker. I could probably avoid this even more with more careful tagging but it happens so seldom and finding the forgotten note never takes that long, that, at least for me, the keyword approach is the way to go.

@Dave-in-Decatur That is what I've noticed as well, beginning word partials seems to work AFAIK ok. I leave off the trailing asterisk, it doesn't seem to matter. I did some additional testing after posting the response above and interestingly if I search for some characters within a word without the asterisk it would sometimes work, but appears to be very inconsistent and incomplete.

Aside from missing this feature, searching in EN is actually pretty good and you should hopefully not have to export your notes to search them. Can you provide an example of this and maybe we can offer some suggestions or work arounds.

I have not found search for these longer notes to be much of an issue. A few times I have needed to use Ctrl F but I can usually scan the note pretty quick to find what I need. Notes do not need to be that long for this to be a useful feature. My main use case is for a development meeting that I run. I have one note per meeting that is projected to a group. It would be impractical, even with note links, to break this into smaller notes. Each note includes the history of the prior meetings and each entry is date coded. I would use this feature to collapse all sections of the note that do not pertain to the current meeting. It would allow us to better focus on what is most important that meeting. I would also use it in other notes to temporarily hide information that may not be of primary importance. Again, a way to focus on the main points. Workflowy is a great tool. I've used it as well but would still prefer to see the function built into Evernote. At least into the desktop clients. This post describes it better than I just did.

Others, including me, agree. FWIW you can vote on the feature request here.

Thanks for posting this. I never share notes so I tried this expecting no hits and found three notes. No idea how or why they were shared and I agree that the step to first enable public link and then disable is completely unintuitive.

Bugs are personal. For some they are show stoppers and others just a slight nuisance, and others still might not experience the problem at all or easily work around it to the point where it is a non-issue. Development has to sort through this as well as they try to understand a bug's impact and prioritize fix effort. To circle back to the topic there have been three times in my years of usage where I considered leaving EN. Twice was performance related and once due to the editor. Somewhere back in the v3 days performance was (at least for me) horrid. 10's of seconds to get a search result. Rumors of a v4 rewrite kept me hanging on and the wait was worth it. Search delay was back to an acceptable level. As my database grew through v4 and v5 I started getting increasingly bothersome slow downs. A laptop upgrade to an i7 barely helped. I rolled the dice and replaced the HDD with an SSD, knowing that even if EN didn't improve, my overall system performance would at least be better, That change proved to be a tremendous overall system and EN performance improvement. Search is instantaneous again. I have another system still with an HDD and v6 has improved that to (for me) to an acceptable level. The editor issue was bullet related. At one time it was truly bad. Extra bullets, missing bullets, weirdly indented bullets, you name it and sometimes no amount of tweaking would fix it. For a while I used a different editor for bullet notes and then copied those to EN. They made (very) slow improvements but the switch to the new editor fixed most of the problems I was seeing and now with v6 I am not experiencing any editor or other problems whatsoever. From my point-of-view, for how I use EN, it is working flawlessly, so let's bring on the new features .

Software with any degree of complexity has bugs. The challenge for any company is to figure the best way to log and prioritize defects and then decide how to use their limited resources on fixing which ones and, or adding new features, if they feel it necessary for business success. As an example, should resources be focused on fixing some nuisance problem that affects only a few users, or should they instead be focused on developing some new premium feature, such as zero knowledge encryption, that has the potential of adding new paying customers to the service? How they focus their efforts will be a balancing act that Evernote management will decide. As others have mentioned, an external tracking or voting system won't help. Companies that get it right will succeed and those that don't will fade away.

Some will never be fixed. That is the nature of software design. The hope is that the majority of ones causing uses grief do get fixed. I wasn't commenting on the effectiveness of EN's internal process just that I think the public tracking list suggestion would not make a difference. It is up to EN to focus time, energy and resources on fixing defects. If they do, the process shouldn't matter much and we'll see improvement. Spending energy in public debate over the status, priority or details of the fixes could actually slow them down. I agree that they had their eye off the ball for a while but with the rollout of the new editor and v6 for Windows, IMO they do appear to be doing better, but from the comments that others have posted, they are not there yet.

I find the auto-populate feature useful but I can see how it's of little use if there are links within a note, but if you are pasting links into a note does it matter what shows in the URL field? The field seems redundant to me at that point. Just trying to understand your use case.

I can't imagine any company ever doing this. I'm sure internally they have some type of tracking and prioritization mechanism but nothing positive would be gained by making this available external to the company. It would just result in endless and worthless debate over why bug #14 is not #1 or why Jim does not appear to be closing defects at the same rate as Mary.

Thanks.

FUT?

For the longest time I gnashed my teeth over the lack of recurring reminders and even used Todoist for quite a while. I did not like having my todos separate from Evernote so came back and gave reminders another try. For my use, I do not need to record the completed date of a recurring reminder so when I complete a reminder I just reset the date for the next time it is due. To help me remember this is a recurring reminder I put a note in the body like "repeats weekly" or "repeats monthly" and with the new tag color coding I have a recurring tag set to green so I have a color reminder as well. I also have an urgent tag set to red that I add to important reminders. I have saved searches for Work Today, Work Tomorrow and Work Next Week that will give me those views and the color coding helps to quickly locate the urgent ones and those that repeat. With these changes, reminders are now working very well for my use. I no longer miss the lack of a recurring function.