Dave-in-Decatur

2 hours ago, AlanH said:

Yes, I've noticed the same thing. The only way I could get to the comparison was by going to my Account Info, clicking on "Manage Subscription", and then clicking on "manage" under the title Account Level. I can't find any other pricing on the public site.

Very helpful! I just did that and found the comparison below.

That's US$110/year for Professional, a 10% increase from my current US$100. Given inflationary pressures world wide, that doesn't seem unreasonable. For comparison, here is my recent billing history. The two payments in 2022 represent my $30 upgrade from Personal to Professional. Note the price stability (for a continuing subscription) over several years.

57 minutes ago, Constantine001 said:

The price increase is all over Twitter, and a couple of YouTube videos also discuss this (search for "Evernote price increase").

Ah yes, the gold standard for accurate information. 😀

On 3/5/2023 at 10:25 AM, alex.carlone said:

This problem is also occurring for me! I just installed Evernote to the Pixel 6, and I am getting the same issue. I am functionally prevented from creating new notes in Evernote for this reason. I had the Galaxy S9 and nothing like this was happening. The Pixel is a great phone, but this is possibly the most important app I have, and it's not functioning correctly. Please help!

Welcome to the forums. You probably will need to submit a support request. But out of curiosity, could you post a screenshot (with no vital information showing)? The OP sounded to me like something quite non-standard for the current Evernote mobile app's appearance.

Reported.

6 hours ago, Chrispolotic said:

On 12/27/2022 at 9:37 PM, rbbcpa said:

I didn’t feel the need to lead with the aforementioned detail because I didn’t realize a forum troll would pounce on my post, and spew nonsense with “authority”.  And, yes, Evernote’s rollout of their subscription model in March, and this month’s pricing increase on legacy plans completely disregards the loyalty of the very user base that vaulted Evernote to prominence.  Likewise, I predict this dismissive approach to customer service will mark the beginning of the end for Evernote.  That, coupled with the acquisition of Evernote by Bending Spoons (i.e., Evernote will be cannibalized and diluted by other Bending Spoons mobile apps) will create an opening to other innovators to fill this void.  At the end of the day, as an Evernote power-user, I cannot justify continuing to pay $65/yr. for an app that simply doesn’t provide equivalent utility to me.  

 It's always like this. Some of these people worship at the Altar of Evernote. If you even remotely criticize the app, they get offended. Don't get me wrong. Evernote is still the best app that I have found. BUT, times are changing. Evernote is hemorrhaging users. The competition is quickly catching up. If Bending Spoons doesn't turn it around quickly, it will go the way of the Dodo bird. 

Speaking as the person slandered as being a "forum troll," if you're also talking about me, please at least look at my posts to learn better. If "some people" is only a vague way of swatting off any continued positive opinions of Evernote, I accept that for what it's worth. As for "Evernote is hemorrhaging users" ... more unsupported opinion expressed as if it were fact. Please don't say "Look at all the posts here about people looking for alternatives." Anecdotes are not data.

@Anthony2023, I apologize in advance for my suspicious mind. But you sound like an AI-generated post from Notion's marketing dept. Hoping you're not (I suppose some people sometimes think my posts are evidence of Evernote's poor AI tools), but hard to see why someone would start a new thread with this in an Evernote support forum.

16 hours ago, AlanH said:

@Dave-in-Decatur, the links in other tools are as easy as typing "@This is a link" (Tana) or "[[This is a link]]" and the software will either give you a dropdown of related links or create a new note/page. In Evernote it is three step activity, right click on where you want the link, type the text and enter/paste the link, and if you want to link to another Evernote page, you have to click on "select note", and then enter text to see the matched notes. I may not be doing this the quickest way in Evernote, but I have tried to figure out faster ways so if they are there, I couldn't find the, suggesting the user interface is too complex.

If this differs from how you create links, I would love to know how you do it.

And AI? The difference between existing Evernote search and AI is the ability to find semantically and by context. Assuming it is a large-language-model, I would expect the AI to easily handle synonyms and misspellings - a simple example, I search for contract, I see returns for that, as well as agreement and other phrases that the tool infers, are a type of contract. You might be interested in this article that provides a useful introduction https://towardsdatascience.com/ai-search-algorithms-every-data-scientist-should-know-ed0968a43a7a

Thanks for this. I'm OK with keyboard shortcuts, less OK with learning new syntaxes. If I'm reading you right, you're saying that other tools allow you to type link-creation  syntax and create a not-yet-existing note along with a link to it, while Evernote requires a note to exist already before creating a link to it. For my thought-flow, I prefer the latter, and haven't yet found Evernote's process an impediment (especially now with Ctrl+Alt+K). At some point when linking to an existing note, you have to either choose from a list or type till the name of the desired note shows up. But these are very individual preferences, and it couldn't hurt to have further options. Since Ctrl+Alt+K and backlinks (which BTW was actually what I was talking about, and remains work that EN does, not me) are relatively new arrivals in EN, perhaps other progress is soon to arrive.

Search that handles typos would certainly be great. Synonyms ... maybe, but I wouldn't want to have to deal with a lot of false positives, or with misunderstood technical terms. It will be interesting to see if BenSpo starts introducing AI functions. Thanks!

6 hours ago, Momofthrees said:

Here is a real example:

Note A: (no back links)  Has the following text:  All the links point to Note B:

[x]1820 census (Drury and Elizabeth married in 1811) 1820 Bennett, Drury

~ Drury Bennett is head of household in Williamson County, TN There are a male and female over the age of 45 in this household. Most likely Drury's parents.(It is possible the father was also Drury Bennett, but I don't believe he is the one buying and selling land, because no record is found of Drury Sr. willing or deeding land to Drury Bennett.-Most likely his parents did not own any land at all)

~Elizabeth Bennett was a free white female 26-45 in the household of Drury Bennett, Williamson County, TN.  (They were in their 30s, and children's ages fit with known children)

....

Note B: (has two backlinks: one to Note A and another to Note C.  Note C looks exactly like Note A and also has no backlinks.

It sounds to me like this is working exactly as it should: You link from Note A and from Note C to Note B. What you see in Notes A and C are those links to B. What you see in Note B (in a little blob at the top right) are the backlinks indicating that Notes A and C link to Note B. The purpose is to let you get directly from B back to any notes that have links to it, without having to manually create any links in B to A and C.

I am glad I do not have to think about this very often or at great length. I would be babbling in no time.

16 hours ago, RobertJLee said:

Evernote is a tool. It does a job. It could be improved and if they want to ramp up the costs significantly then many ( myself included) will be off to alternatives unless I start seeing things like easy bidirectional linking, manual sorting and AI- I have google alerts set up monitoring alternatives so have some ideas as to where I would go.

I DO think they should do away with the moronic FREE package. Yes make it free for a say a month with say max 50 notes then you pay. They must spend a fortune providing the service and "support" to free users.

Agreed on the free month, then pay. I probably used it free for a month or less, and very quickly saw that I was getting benefits well worth paying for. If you can do just fine with what you get for "free" (only paying with your personal information) elsewhere, or bundled with a massive office-tools subscription, you're good. If you see something in Evernote that really makes things work better for you, then subscribe. Skip a cup of coffee every week to make up for it.

I agree with @PinkElephant that I don't see how creating a backlink could be any easier, since I literally do nothing in order to make it happen.

Not sure what the allure of AI is in this context--more magical searching? I'd be glad if anyone can fill me in.

I just checked and it still shows my Professional account renewing in May at the same price as last year, US$100. Maybe I get another year before the price rise hits, since I just upgraded from Premium to Pro last year???

Just to be clear, these forums are user-to-user. You may need to contact Evernote support: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. I'm sure your situation is not unique--you are reminding me that I need to compile some information for my daughters! Sincere condolences for what you are experiencing.

Mmph. Evernote Professional is worth $100/year for me (at least I think it will be once I start using some more of its features). But one of the first things I noticed when Bending Spoons bought Evernote was the very high prices of some of BS's existing apps. I don't know what percentage of Evernote's users are in the USA--I expect it's significant--but if price increases of that magnitude really start happening across the board, BS is going to find out how much lower price tolerance Americans may have than Europeans. Does the nation that invented Walmart and absolutely believes that low price is the only factor in most buying decisions seem likely to support a stainless steel utility at platinum prices?

See also this new thread:

51 minutes ago, asore said:

And "Experts," your "you don't like it, too bad" attitude and a company ignoring their long-term users is exactly what sends core users looking for new alternatives. I've been a proselytizer for Evernote for over a decade. This thread is the first time in all of those years that I am taking the time to start exploring alternatives.

Don't know if I'm one of those "experts" you mean but I suspect that whoever they are, they too are long-term core users. What I'm tired of is people who don't like the way something works now and insist that Evernote must change it back because they and they alone are Evernote's core/essential/power/long-term users. It would be great to have an option in the settings for this, I'm sure. But then we would get the complaints about bloated settings and something accidentally getting set the wrong way....

Hello, and welcome to the forums. These are primarily user-to-user forums, with only occasional input from Evernote staff. (They are also very public, so it is better for reasons of security not to post one's email address.)

Regarding the fonts, my understanding is that the reason for the limited fonts in Evernote v. 10 is so that notes will display uniformly on all platforms (Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, Web). This means not taking advantage of the full range of fonts available on Windows and Mac. But obviously that is a great disadvantage for people in non-English environments. You may well need to find more suitable software for your purposes.

I wonder if this could be keyboard related. I use Smart Keyboard Pro (for its multiple languages), and I can't reproduce the problem. Samsung S22 with Android 13.

FYI, this is the Android support forum, not iOS. The problems may be similar, but could perhaps have different underlying causes.

This is the forum for the Android app. You've posted the same issue elsewhere also -- multiple postings only leads to confusion.

Welcome to the forums. These are user-to-user forums, and are not staffed by Evernote. So basically you are publishing these email addresses to the world at large. Please delete that information, for your own security, and contact Evernote support: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.

I have that same phone and have not been having the problem. (I use a non-Android-stock keyboard, FWIW.) There was a recent system update--I wonder if that is involved somehow. I installed that update and haven't had any problems. But interactions among Evernote, its Electron wrapper, Samsung One UI, and Android leave a lot of room for weird errors. This may require a support ticket, for which they will want your logs, and that may be hard to deliver without a functioning app.

I agree that the multiple assignments for Ctrl+Q is ridiculous, esp. since it makes no particular sense to assign it to text justification. The duplication is why I changed the "Switch" function to Ctrl+S, which was unique and available. Of course, this does require a disturbing amount of reasonable flexibility on my part, not something I am necessarily well provided with....

Can you give more details about the exact sequence of events? It might be possible to get some clarity that way.

19 hours ago, SK_123 said:

But my main problem is as of now, the mobile client is become terrible

Is this an Android, or iPhone? I've seen lots of complaints here about performance on Androids. I recently bricked my old Android (literally--dropped it on a brick porch and destroyed the screen) and had to update to a current Samsung model. I have not had any issues of sync failing (though occasionally lagging a little) or note duplication, so I count myself fortunate.

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But I have started to get used to the new 10.x features tasks, calendars, widget box etc. So, 10.x has been designed well, and looks good.

That is my experience too.

20 hours ago, AngryEvernotePremiumUser said:

On 2/25/2023 at 4:45 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

the limited number of people with two accounts

Let me clarify once again: This thread is not about evernote users that may have two evernote accounts but rather users who need the ability to view another evernote account in parallel to their own.

For example, I have my private evernote account but want to view the evernote account of my company at the same time, an account other employees have access too as well.

I think this is a very easy to understand use case, yet you constantly ridicule it by wrongfully asserting I was talking about Evernote users who have two Evernote premium accounts which I don't.

Ah HA! Now you are quoting me out of context, and misquoting me as well. I said (and even this is not the full context):

On 2/25/2023 at 4:45 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

the limited number of people with two accounts who need to view both at once and drag notes between them

That is exactly what you're talking about, is it not? And I have never said a word about "premium" accounts.

20 hours ago, AngryEvernotePremiumUser said:

Either way, lets say 95% can enjoy an ad free app because 5% are paying for it, yet the developers have grossly ignored many user requests and basically thrown power users under the bus with v10

Agree on the math, not on the bus toss. I use an Evernote Professional account heavily, though obviously in a way very different from you, since I don't need to work with two accounts. Since Evernote kind of invites different users with different needs to devise different but equally intense ways of using it, "power user" perhaps becomes a little hard to define. I feel that I get good value from my subscription fee, and while I can't say I totally don't mind subsidizing the free users, I do feel that EN does now offer quite a bit more to paying users than to free ones. (The free users come into the forums all the time and gripe about how little they get for nothing.)

On 2/25/2023 at 7:47 AM, AngryEvernotePremiumUser said:

With Evernote 10, the main window only shows me 8 notes in the middle column, whereas with Evernote v6 I was able to see 14 notes (same view settings in both apps)

So the new design is wasting a lot of screen estate (amoung other things...) and the addition of new features like the Home screen isn't helping here either

I tend to agree with you on this. And it's not just Evernote. A lot of current UI design is apparently based on large, chunky objects and lots of white space. Think Windows 8 before you figured out how to get past the Start screen to the desktop. My healthcare provider has just a horrible example of it. In Evernote, I'm not hugely bothered by it, but you're right that using, say, the Snippets display I see far fewer notes at once than I do using Snippets in v. 6.25. And the Thumbnails display from 6.25, which allows multiple columns of notes in the list, is not (yet) available at all in v. 10. For the way I work it's not a big problem in Evernote--I do use the Home page a lot as a starting point, and since recent notes display horizontally there, I can see a fair number. But I can imagine it being annoying.

My bad, I did fail to notice it marked solved. We seem to be talking past each other on other matters, so I'm stopping now.