AlbertR

The new tasks feature is an eye-catcher to new users. Most of existing users like and use tags together with reminders like we all know from BTW: Has anyone heared about plans to (dis-)continue with business plans?

Oups - if I would a member of Bending Spoon's board, I should search for ideas and technologies to carry me forward. EN offers both and a well known product that can be processed on. There are many users who where looking for alternatives - and found none. That proofes the good idea and the outstanding technology.

OK, one last try to keep me carrying on with Legacy - before getting calm on this 😉 Here's my script to startup Legacy: ' '. Register EN as handler for evernote:-URLs - then start EN-Legacy itself     image = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Evernote\Evernote Legacy\Evernote.exe"     key = "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\evernote\shell\open\command\"     value = """" & image & """ ""%1"""     Set sh = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")     sh.RegWrite key, value, "REG_SZ"     sh.Exec image

Ha - I found a solution to open evernote:-links in Legacy even if V10 is installed: You have to modify registry key HKCR\evernote\shell\open\command to point to Legacy's installation path "C:\Program Files (x86)\Evernote\Evernote Legacy\Evernote.exe" "%1" 🙂 But: Everytime V10 is started it changes this key back to its installation path 😞 ... Fixable (probably) with a little scripting ... Yes - if You use a startup script that first changes the registry and then starts Legacy, ... ... but still a nuisance. Yes - because you cannot use V10 in parallel as it changes the registry key every time by itself 😤 They want to force us onto V10 with all their might. 😢

Yes of course (it works - but is confusing 😉). But even if I close V10 and have Legacy open and running, an Evernote:-Link opens in V10 (which is restarted by windows) - so I cannot use Evernote:-Links to jump from outside to Legacy 😞 - that's my (OK - not biggest) problem...

I'm working >95% of my time with Legacy but have in mind they plan to really force me to use V10 anytime in future. So I try to work with V10 from time to time just to check whether it may fit to my needs. Up to now this is not the case. It's not a good idea (to me) to have different machines to check out V10 because it should work together with all other stuff.

O-Oh - I think during installation procedures of pre-V10, Legacy and V10 there have been some changes to softly force users to use V10... One example: In older versions a user was able to cut & paste text with internal URLs to foreign documents like Word or OneNote. By clicking on such URLs from outside (means: inside OneNote i.e.), the destination note opened in Evernote.exe (IIRC because the link started with "evernote:" that forced Windows to search for the propper handler programm - Evernote.exe). If you paste such an URL from Legacy to Legacy, the "evernote:" prefix is retained. If you click on it in Legacy, you will reach the destination note in Legacy 👍. This is done internally to Legacy whilst clicking on such an URL link. If you paste such an URL from Legacy to V10, the "evernote:"-prefix is changed to "https://www.evernote.com/..." . If you click on it in V10, you will reach the destination note in your browser - not in V10 and not in Legacy 👎. At least this (pasting "interally" URL to Windows' clipboard to enable other applications to retrieve it as "https:"-prefixed addresses) has been changed from pre-V10-EN to LEGACY. If you open a note containing an "evernote:"-link in V10 (even if a Legacy window is open in parallel), the destination note opens in V10 🤔. OK, this makes sense if V10 is installed and open. But there is no possibility force any program (including EN-V10) to open destination note in Legacy. I guess Legacy does not change registry settings for that if V10 has been installed anytime on a maschine... 😞

Hmm, Evernote itself calls 6.25.2.9198 "LEGACY" in its Help dialog. This is an apapted pre-V10 version wheres really older (not adaped) versions does not carry a "LEGACY" name. For me it is a scalpel that i.e. inserts current and other dates (related to now) in a pretty formed format and may other helpfull things 😉 . But you maybe right: It's somewhat exaggerated for simple use cases...

I don't know what "Legacy" on a MacBook means (as version #) as I'm a Windows user. But if I remember correct, some features of the last pre-V10-version have been changed in Legacy after V10 has been released. One of these features has been the format and handling of (internal) note links - according to what you described. This was done not only by changing functionality of Evernote.exe. Format and structure of the Windows clipboard and some registry settings were changed to allow other programs to paste EN's links appropriate to possibilies of the paste-destination programs. For example: a plain text editor (like Notepad) takes the URL portion of the link in paste operations. More intelligent programs that support HTML-formatted links take the NAME together with the URL behind to form a clickable link. On Windows we've no Keyboard Maesto from Microsoft - but may use a small program "AutoHotKey" to map keyboard shortcuts to special functionality. Maybe an AHK-crack is able to implements a workaround like @gazumped has described before 😉

THX - just verified how Windows (and I'm sure other OS, too) work with file names: If you change the name, the updated date is NOT changed If you change the folder, the update date is NOT changed @EN: It is a design fail of V10 to change updated time when changing tags, notebooks, note title. (even if @PinkElephant might not go with this 😉)

Tags are not part of notes. They are stored in an index database (like index data to accelerate search functions). So if you apply tags to notes or remove tags from notes or rename tags, nothing of the note content is changed. It is a design fail of V10 to change a notes's updated time on changing tags. And that's that.

Es müssten schon super-duper-wichtige Notizen sein, die jemanden zwingen, überhaupt an so etwas zu denken 😉 Mit einer Konvertierung in Text geht jedes Bild und jede Formatierung verloren. Außerdem kann EN auch in PDFs suchen... Falls du hier reingeschneit bist, weil du auch auf Nimbus reingefallen bist oder noch damit liebäugelst: Vergiss' es einfach und du sparst viel Zeit... Mach's wie @eric99 und @gazumped es gleich zu Beginn des Threads als direkte Antworten beschrieben haben.

Installed on Windows by direct download (because updating from inside EN often does not see a new version 😉) At first there is no settings icon visible. After opening the "Start-Ansicht" (Home view?) and doing some changes there, the settings icon appeared - even in my German version!

Tried it for some time - but tables are not as easy to handle like simple text with bullet lists (I'm a keyboard-fan 😉). And I've thousand of notes already formatted without tables and they will go mangled if touched in V10. 😞 ... and "I wish EN realised ..." ... to not forget their good old users...

In Legacy it was possible to mark any text, attachment, picture, ... and copy&paste it to any other note with no problem. Attachments and pictures may be located in any surrounding paragraphs like lists, tables and so on... In V10 many of these possibilies are lost - unusable to me 😤🥴😥🤔 Background: If You have notes with nicely formatted attachment/picture-combinations within lists, V10 trys to reformat it to a simplified format to make is manageable for it's poor editing functionality Example in Legacy: If You open it in V10, it comes like this: V10 does not allow attachments and pictures to be placed on one line 😞. But this is not only a display fail: V10 really modifies the note and inserts Newline-Characters just before the pictures. If You re-open it in Legacy (after a sync), the nice format is destroyed. Moreover: in V10 you cannot copy attachments from one note to another by simply Ctrl-C or Right-Click on the attachment. You have to mark the whole paragraph including the attachment (and mis-formatted picture) to Ctrl-C and paste it somewhere else. 😤 There are some other changes in editing functionality which might be tolerated. But changing text formats like shown before is a NO-GO! I want to keep Legacy forever!

@Cals: ... OneDrive, Windows Indexing, BoxCryptor, Directory Opus and finally WorkFlowy ... Great work - but seems complicated and somewhat hard to maintain if one of these tools will go to die anytime in future (like EN-Legacy). Hope I won't have to come back to your suggestion. 🙏

At the end we might use Legacy forever - but only locally if they stop syncing on server side 😞 😞

@PinkElephant said: "v10 is "always syncing" - maybe it clashes with the rearrangement of text while editing." YEP - a big problem not even in context of missing text collapsing features. If I would be a ProductOwner, I would elevate stability of well known functions to the highest priority. But immediately thereafter - text collapsing 😉

V10 needs much more of all: Processor speed, main Memory, Display area and User's time at the end.

U-uh - my favourite wish of "normal" enhancements are Boolean searches... Now we can have it 👍 but for additional money - we have to subscribe to Professional 😞 OK, I like their argument "pay if you want us to really help you in future for sure" - and I will upgrade -- but only if a real professional can work as fluidy and reliable as in the past! As long as EN-10 is crapping my time and resources, I'll stay with Legacy and my personal account. Boolean searches are state of the art in so many systems around the world. EN always has been proud about their search capabilities - to keep being the best should be matter of honor.

In Germany we know the ideom "Steter Tropfen höhlt den Stein" which might be known as "Little strokes fell big oaks." 😉 - Don't give up!

Yes - your data is stored on server site. As long as you did not use any new EN10-Features like Tasks (but there are not other new features IMHO), you can (and should) go back to EN-Legacy version. For Android there is no Legacy version available. But your data are on server site. You may work with you data on windows and view them on Android. You even can modify your Notes on Android but you will find it awsome slow - so I recommend only to try to view them there 😉

We should not have to search for workarounds. Syncing has be a background task that has to work silently and without any influence on interactive work. Interactive work has to be as fluidy as we know it from Legacy (the one and only workaround 😉)

Addendum: EN shows "Änderungen werden synchronisiert" ("syncing changes"), WLAN is free but never touched ==> What does my CPU do in the meanwhile (except heating my office)?

OK, I tried the following: Define an import folder Copy 204 PDF files to that folder ... have been imported to EN-10-16 within seconds ... all PDF-/files/ are available within the 204 /notes/: OK Tried to delete these 204 /notes/ ... by selecting as much as possible (50) then click Delete... ... and repeat from selecting ... This tooks some minutes for every set of 50 notes 😞. CPU is heavily loaded: So - You are right: selecting and deleting a group of notes is a nightmare. Can't imagine what is such difficult to do this. EN-Legacy does it immediately (as fast as I click). But this is not a new finding. Importing notes works great (but should offer a checkbox to immediately delete the files from import folder after import is done - as Legacy 😉). @EN-Support: My CPU did not calm down during the last 25 minutes. EN window tells me that all 204 notes have been moved to trash. ==> CPU is loaded because of sync activity in the background... - huh, so many open things to do 😞 - PLEASE get EN-10 runnning as smooth as Legacy - before offering new features (like Notes, Calendars, ...)