M. Black

Thanks for the workaround, @DTLow. I'm glad to try something, at least until we get the solution we'd like ...

Metadata for clipped articles is among the features I most need from EN. So I confess that I might tend toward ill thoughts of anyone explaining the difficulties, however correct or rational. But I can't be annoyed this time at @jefito for being the messenger of bad news because of the artful "Tangled Up In Blue" reference ...

Anyone else also want cleaner, more useful article clips? I'm still hoping.

Not for me, it doesn't. I use a Mac with Chrome and clipper ... And Twitter clips are a mess. Since I use them in research, I would love to have a good way of saving threaded Tweets + replies!

Doh! How did I forget this part of the problem?! I wrote about the potential for search embarrassment and completely forgot about default logon view humiliation! Without a password-protected/encrypted notebook that is omitted from snippets and search, here's what happens. I'm at work, wanting to show someone a file. When I open EN, the left pane has snippets from notes with professional and non-confidential titles such as, * "Really Dirty Jokes to Tell Brother" * "Easy Ways To Fire 50% of Staff THIS WEEK" * "Fine Liquor & Cheap Booze To Try ASAP" * "Quit & Become a Pro Butter Churner? Pros & Cons" * "Dear Dad, Your granddaughter is a genius! Here's her last 10th-grade essay, "The Moon Landing Was Faked & Dinosaurs Could Have Made It To The Moon ..." * "June 18, Reflections: Today I realized WHY I hate this job. It's because of my useless coworkers, loathsome boss, petulant clients ..." Thanks, @Jay Starkey. I'm actually going to add this point to my post above explaining my desperation, so that I'll have allllll my reasons in one place the next time someone asks why people are desperate for this feature.

Well, there seem to be several different feature requests here. There are various comments regarding security of our overall data and encryption, and cloud security, etc. I'm comfortable with the overall security of my Evernote data, even if that is a bit of ignorant bliss. I am "desperate" for something far more basic, something that seems to have appealed to many, many users over the many years I've been a Premium EN user: An ability to password protect a notebook consisting of all the notes I don't want anyone to read or see and don't want to pop up in EN searches. This isn't because I want to keep passwords safe (though that is as good a reason as any), since I use 1Password. I just want a simple ability to keep personal journal entries, certain web clippings, photos and the like, separate and secure with an additional layer of password protection. I'll give you a couple of case scenarios: I am a college professor. Students often literally read over my shoulder while I show them documents or web pages on my screen. I would like to easily switch to Evernote to show them saved files of examples or articles. However, I don't want journal snippets -- or web clippings of gifts I'm eyeing for my family, or recipes I've saved, or photos of my children's artwork or my brother's prized classic car -- showing up in that search. I've had the same usage concern with consulting clients, because I use EN to organize those materials, as well. Another case: Although I use a privacy screen on my devices, none is 100%. I do not want to have to worry about prying eyes next to me or behind me every time I perform a search on my Evernote in a public place. The note encryption is not sufficient, since it balks at my web clips and doesn't tolerate formatting or longer lengths. Last example: The potentially horrifying default logon view. The contents of Evernote's encrypted notes are excluded from search and have a box in place of the contents, which keep them out of snippet view. With an encrypted and password-protected notebook, I'd hope the titles, also, would be omitted from snippets and search. As it is, if I'm at work and decide to show someone an Evernote file, when I open EN, the left pane displays notes with such professional and non-confidential titles as, "Really Dirty Jokes to Tell Brother," "Easy Ways To Fire 50% of Staff THIS WEEK," "Quit To Become a Pro Butter Churner? Pros & Cons," and "June 18, Reflections: Today I realized WHY I hate this job. It's because of my useless coworkers, loathsome boss, petulant clients ..." (ADDED after original post. Thanks @Jay Starkey for the reminder of this predicament.) Of course, there are workarounds, most obviously, not having someone read over my shoulder. I can also try to pull things ahead of time, find other ways of working around nosey neighbors, etc. But I am an Evernote devotee. I use it for everything and I love its search functions and the ability to trip across related saved documents by searching a word or tag. There are times I like sharing my EN screen with individual students, clients or even a lecture hall. Other users share their EN with assistants or family and because of a need to share many things across many notebooks, find it impractical to give others only specific notebook access. Seems pretty easy to understand why they, too, would find it much easier to make one or more notebooks completely private only to them. I understand the notion of using different apps and software for different things. But what made Evernote my Holy Grail of information control was following advice I read years ago: Put EVERYTHING in it, so you have one place to look. I have plenty of exceptions, such as not using it for passwords. But it works best for me if I use it for almost all notes and document storage, personally generated and web saved. Therefore, I don't really want another system for my journal, random web clips, and pictures I've taken of my children's artwork -- even though I don't want any of those things popping up in a search or along my sidebar. Having a private notebook, or several private notebooks, would solve my concerns as well as those of countless other paying EN customers.

I appreciate this solution, since I had the same problem. For those struggling with this issue who didn't check here, wouldn't it make sense to have the "convert to PDF" button do this on its own?

BUMP Still desperate for this feature? Any word?

Hello? @evernote? Will someone let us know about this one? It is a hugely important feature for a lot of people and their workflow.

I, too, would love this feature. In the meantime, here's my workaround: I add a reminder to the note, using the alarm clock button at the top of the note I want to pin. From the Evernote page about that function: "Reminders appear in a to-do list pinned at the top of your note list where they can be sorted, marked as complete, and more. You can opt to receive email alerts on the day timed reminders are due. Once you've completed a task associated with a reminder, check it off in the reminders list. Checking off a reminder does not delete the original note." Hope that helps! MB

Whoops. Ignore previous post in this space. Just realized that @jefito meant he moved this whole discussion elsewhere ...

Sure, @DTLow: Back in the old days of about a year ago or more, you could hit "print" and a very pretty version popped up so that you could print -- or clip -- a very nice version of the page. When that's an option, it works perfectly for clipping. Now, however, many sites offer a print option that forces a printer dialog pop-up. The clunky workaround I've found in those cases is to "print" as a saved PDF, then upload that PDF to Evernote. As I said, it's clunky, but often the best-looking option for saving an article that includes publication name, date, author, etc. I sure wish Evernote offered a clipping option that included all those things without the extra steps. Hope that helps. MB

(repost of my comment posted here, in hopes of finding others who are interested in this issue) I very much need the same things mentioned by the OP. This issue most often comes up when I clip from news sites. What I need: A clipped article, complete with publication name, headline, date and author's name -- preferably without the side columns of additional articles, random ads at the bottom, etc. I need this in order to share those articles, often combined into a packet of articles. Publications that offer "print versions" of individual articles solve the issue for me. I can clip a perfect-looking article, with all the needed elements, for saving and sharing. The issue is that not all publications do this. Therefore, using Evernote, my choices are: 1.) Clip as an "article," which keeps the date and the authors, but strips out the publication name. To @DTLow, I understand that I could add in the information myself, but that is cumbersome when clipping numerous items. Also, this leaves me unable to keep the font/style/etc. of the publication name, which makes the clipped article look better for printing, sharing, etc. 2.) Clip as a "simplified article," which strips out the date and the authors in addition to leaving out the publication name. In short, "simplified article" ought to include all the basics of identification: Publication name, headline, date and author's name, as well as the article itself.

I very much need the same things mentioned by the OP. This issue most often comes up when I clip from news sites. What I need: A clipped article, complete with publication name, headline, date and author's name -- preferably without the side columns of additional articles, random ads at the bottom, etc. I need this in order to share those articles, often combined into a packet of articles. Publications that offer "print versions" of individual articles solve the issue for me. I can clip a perfect-looking article, with all the needed elements, for saving and sharing. The issue is that not all publications do this. Therefore, using Evernote, my choices are: 1.) Clip as an "article," which keeps the date and the authors, but strips out the publication name. To @DTLow, I understand that I could add in the information myself, but that is cumbersome when clipping numerous items. Also, this leaves me unable to keep the font/style/etc. of the publication name, which makes the clipped article look better for printing, sharing, etc. 2.) Clip as a "simplified article," which strips out the date and the authors in addition to leaving out the publication name. In short, "simplified article" ought to include all the basics of identification: Publication name, headline, date and author's name, as well as the article itself. ex. 1 - "ARTICLE" -- Captures authors' names and dates, along with sidebar links and other extraneous information; does not capture "The New York Times" from the top of the page, which only shows up if you choose "full page." ex. 2 - "SIMPLIFIED ARTICLE" - Does not capture publication name, date or author's name.

I also would love this feature. And don't get me started on my desire to have specific notebooks with encryption for all inside that notebook. I completely understand OP's problem. He doesn't want to encrypt all other client info, but doesn't want it popping up. I also frequently have people looking over my shoulder at Evernote contents that I have pulled up for them. Tags don't solve the problem, because if I do a search -- which is very, very often -- items with other tags will show up. And I might need to find something that isn't tagged with X client's name, because it is associated with another project and doesn't carry that tag. @Dan F -- Love this solution for some issues, like the specific one you mention. But wouldn't help me in the day to day, since there is stuff I do want regular access to -- including some of those times when someone is reading on with me -- but don't want to pop up when I perform a search. Hiding a picture in iPhoto is a perfect analogy. The only workaround that helps me is encrypting those notes that I don't want to pop up. OP could encrypt all client files, and unencrypt the ones associated with the "Jones" tag when OP has meetings set with Jones. That keeps those contents out of the search list. (Not sure if this is only Premium enabled.) BUT, it's less than 100% ideal for me because that makes all those notes unsearchable and I would like to be able to search them when I choose to do so ... which brings me back to wanting a notebook in which everything is encrypted. In my dream world, that notebook can be included in a global search, or searched by itself, with the same encryption PW.