Dave-in-Decatur

Got that, and if it's possible to get past that warning/invitation to revoke access to the Web client, good. But wouldn't logging out of Android also get back within the 2-device limit and allow access from Windows and Web?

If anyone's interested, I just started a new thread on the acquisition, so that our anxiety and speculation may have a place to go and be themselves:

If you haven't yet clicked a green banner at the top of your forum page, here's the link: Following links from there, and checking Wikipedia, I learn that Bending Spoons is a very fast-moving, highly regarded company (they have a manifesto, so, yay, I guess). They developed Italy's COVID contact tracing app. Their focus is on mobile iOS apps, e.g., for video and photo editing. Please chime in with any data or experience you have concerning Bending Spoons. And this forum being this forum, go ahead with your anxious and maybe baseless fears too. Here are mine: A company focused on mobile apps for iOS makes me worry that Evernote for Android will never be gotten right, and Evernote for Windows may not develop beyond where it is now. Which is actually pretty good for me, but I know lots of people want to see lots of other stuff in it. One corporate and tech development culture is going to be swallowed up by another. Please respond with any known examples of this going well for the culture being swallowed. I'm not jumping ship till I see what happens. This is probably way, way better than Evernote being bought by Google or Microsoft. It will probably at last shift Evernote off its U.S.-centric approach to languages and keyboards. But I don't quite trust Ian Small's assurances that it will be full steam ahead with the current beta and near-beta developments Evernote has going. What new owner is not going to say, "Well, hmm, let's take a look at that"? Let the paranoia unroll!

It seems to me that the key here is "someone has shared on the blog." The link will be in the form that the other person has shared. If it is in the form "evernote.com/shard" it will open in the browser; only if it is in the form "evernote:///view" will it open in the app.

WRT "no warnings," here's the article comparing features of the different plans: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005157. You have to scroll down pretty far, but "Customize Home with multiple pinned note and scratch pad widgets" is marked for Professional and Teams plans only. Since scratch pads can always be converted to notes, it might good just on general principles to do that rather than keep them hanging around for months.

Regarding the failure of Evernote for Windows to load, did this happen after an update? There have been reports of an update (I think v. 10.48.4) failing to load. The most recent version, 10.48.5, should be available for download from the Evernote Website. At any rate, installing it couldn't do any harm, and might fix the issue. But you will still have to revoke access to one of the 3 "devices" (Windows, Android, Web). The simplest thing might be to log out of the Android app temporarily. If you can get the Windows app working, you can then go to your account page and revoke access to the Web client.

Can you say something about what you would consider truly evolutionary and not just cosmetic?

Perhaps one approach would be to check for updates at the beginning of each day. How gratifying to go for days and days knowing you are on the latest version! And then when there is an update, accept it, use the minutes required for the update to do some exercises (mental or physical), and then go on with the work. This way your work is not interrupted by the update. I look at updating as a mildly time-consuming necessity, sort of like brushing my teeth, if I only had to brush them once a week.

I was envisioning going offline and staying offline throughout the editing process, until the note was in the condition that you want it to be in, and only then going back online so that this form (and not all the provisionals and maybes and oopses during the process) would sync.

The support page is: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. I'm not sure if that covers this specific type of issue though.

Could you say more about what device this is happening on (Android, iPhone, Mac, Windows, Web....)? Generally speaking Evernote is now designed to sync everything automatically and more or less constantly. The only way to disable this would be to go offline. Once the note is finalized the way you want it, then go back online so it can sync.

The Evernote app's printing is, in general, not its best feature right now, I'd say. How is the computer connected to the printer: direct cable, wired network, or WiFi? Possibly there are disruptions in the connection. What happens if you convert to PDF and then open the PDF and print it? A time-wasting work-around, I realize, but does the whole note save to PDF or are pages missing?

And hence my willingness to be a late adopter WRT a problem that only happened once and was fixable.

Clearly a lot of people would like to see this improvement, and find Evernote less useful without it. I get that part. I myself have little use for and no interest in having collapsible lists. I'm confident that I'm not alone, and I hope that others will get that. What I don't get is the implication that Evernote's developers are either incompetent or uninterested in what users need. Evernote is very different from what it was in 2011. A number of things were implemented in the change to v. 10, although that rollout was incredibly clumsily and prematurely handled IMHO. Since the rollout, many things initially missing in or wrong with v. 10 have been added or fixed. Maybe the answer is (a) it looks simple when it works right, but it's not that easy to get it to work right in Evernote's specific development environment, which has to work on Android phones, etc., as well as Windows desktops; or (b) despite this long and loud thread, this improvement is not important enough to enough existing and potential users to get top priority; or (c) sync issues, which have even more numerous and louder threads on these forums, are a critical problem to which large resources are being devoted, and other things will have to wait; or (d) none of us really knows what's going on in Evernote's development plans, and while frustrating, this is actually normal. If Evernote gets collapsible lists going at some point, yay, I'll maybe even find a use for them, and hundreds or thousands of users will truly benefit. If Evernote doesn't get cross-platform sync and note duplication issues fixed PDQ, then they really may be in trouble. But for reference, search the forums for "Evernote is dying" or the like and sort the results by date.

Is this the Web client (that's what this forum is about)? Can you give any more details?

What version of the Web client are you using? That looks like a much older Evernote toolbar. Here is the current one (v. 10.48.4):

I checked for updates, but at that point 10.47 was still the latest available for me. This was such an unusual experience for me that I'm hoping it's a one-off.

Using Opera, I find (and have always found) that using the Web clipper (or clicking the Save PDF to Evernote button at bottom right) creates a note with the proper title, but no content at all.

Others may have reported similar problems before, but I haven't located those threads. Today I created a new note in the Android app (old version, v. 8), starting with a couple of images. I added some text, then edited it in the Windows app (v. 10.47). When I returned to it in the Windows app this evening the two images were both gone, though they appeared in the thumbnail. I found the note, with images intact, in Note History, then exported it from there and re-imported as a new note. The images were and remain intact in this note. Even in the original note (since moved to Trash) the images show up in the Web client and the Android app. In the Windows app, there are only blue-outline placeholders for them, much too small for the size of the images. Just reporting it in case others have such an experience.

It might be worthwhile going back and reading all the posts here about Evernote adding a Tasks function when obviously no one needed that. (That's what they said, not what I'm saying.) What is minimal for some is superfluous to others. The navigation ideas have been suggested here so often that Evernote must be aware of them. Read-only viewing would be a big plus. But otherwise, I think the text editing in Evernote is quite good. Math, symbols, and code blocks are not a feature of my life. I don't need Evernote to do everything; I prefer it to do a limited set of things well, and I'll use other software for other purposes, e.g., finance management. This, in fact, is a debate I've seen years ago on these forums: should we expect to use Evernote for everything, simplifying our tool kit, or should we accept the need for a diverse tool kit composed of programs that do specific things well?

I have been seeing this more frequently lately also. I assume that it is a Cronofy problem, since that seems to be the bad gateway, and it might be good to raise it with their support. I've found them to be responsive in the past.

Hi, and welcome to the forums. I do see the export option on that menu. What version of Evernote are you using? Export can be found in 2 other places: on the File menu; and by right-clicking a note in the Notes List. (If multiple notes are selected in the notes list, they can all be exported at once, up to a maximum of 50). Do you see Export on either of those menus?

Welcome to the forums, @fkpwolf. Just to be clear, these are basically user-to-user forums; you are not addressing Evernote staff or developers directly here. The problem is certainly significant, but to let Evernote know of your concerns directly, you need to create a support ticket: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. I believe you can do so as a "Guest" if you do not have a paid subscription.

Glad that helped!

Also only a fellow user, but wanting to be clear on what happened. You were working on a note in the Evernote desktop app on a laptop while offline on a plane. The note was being saved to the EN database on the laptop. The next day you went online and the note was not there. I presume you hadn't looked for it in the time between. Was this a Mac or Windows laptop? Have you checked for the note in the trash (I know, duh), or in the Evernote Web app (this is actually the forum for that client)? Even if the note never got synced after you worked on it online, it should still have been present in the local DB and then synced when you went online. If that definitively did not happen, then do open a support ticket. And do let us know here if there's any progress--as @agsteele said, this is not an everyday occurrence (in my experience), and other users would want to know what happened.