Dave-in-Decatur

@trouwborst, my use is similar to yours, though I don't have nearly as many notes, partly because I don't use it as a filing cabinet. I consider my use of it to be "professional" (I'm a retired professor, still researching and writing), so I pay for the Professional plan--and enjoy its benefits, as @bmcl26 indicates, including the ability to access it on more than 2 devices. But what you expect to get out of it naturally determines what $$ you're willing to put into it.

12 hours ago, GrumpyMonkey said:

From the new owners, I’d like to see better reliability, better support for users who have a relatively large amount of data / number of notes, and better encryption. But, in the end, I’d need them to double down on a few of the core features. Not being able to select more than fifty notes at a time is a deal breaker (no price point is reasonable for me) and being limited by the hd storage on my computer is a major pain point (grudgingly pay). If the free tier for “abusers” like me disappeared without these two things, it’d be tough to hang on.

This is going to be a little unfair, since it will sound too personal and be like mind-reading, but to me this feels like searching for reasons not to pay. If they let us select unlimited notes (which they definitely should) and you become able to own a cheap, gigantic HD or SSD, does the scale then slide a little bit farther?

I understand that there are some who are simply not able to pay any subscription fee, and I sympathize with them. Perhaps Evernote should offer a student rate, or limited-income rate. Some people (my wife is one) were brought up in an atmosphere of "always go cheap"; some (like her) escape that, and some stay there, which is fine. But blaming the free lunch for not having enough gravy ... that I don't get.

13 hours ago, jefito said:

re: paying for free users

Not an issue with me. Evernote provides me with a service that works for me, at a cost that seems fair, and that I can afford, and I'm happy to do pay for it. That's pretty much what matters to me. If other folks are able to use the free version (I probably couldn't, at least easily), that's fine by me. Life's too short for me to be worrying about who's getting a better deal on my nickel, with respect to Evernote, or other parts of my world for that matter. I've much more important things to worry about -- in fact, I've never, ever thought of it in those terms before.

Maybe I'd rather be seen to be a sucker than a Scrooge...

I like this. The only time free users annoy me is when they come to the forums and complain that they're not getting enough for free.

There has been a report of performance improvement in the latest version of the Android app, so it may be worth a try to download that from Google Play if it's available to you (and you're not already on it):

Scripting is apparently disallowed by Electron, and in general any attempt to act on Evernote from the outside. E.g., I can save a link to a note on the Windows desktop, but clicking it opens the note in the full Evernote app, not in a separate window is in the legacy app.

55 minutes ago, SWSL said:

For me, EN is a utility service like Google Drive.  I want it to work and to keep working with the least friction and not be too expensive to include in my yearly budget along with all the other subscriptions. I'm off of LastPass paid (another utility) for that reason.    It's not something where new features make it better for me and to the degree they cost more or adds friction, new features are problematic.

This may be Evernote's biggest making-users-happy conflict: "new features can be problematic" vs. "why can't it do X?" I suppose that 75% of the threads on these forums are one or the other of those. And each side feels equally ... what? aggrieved? cheated? just annoyed? The addition of tasks is a classic example. "Tasks? Who needs tasks?" vs. "You call these tasks? Make them better!"

3 hours ago, jefito said:

For a long time, I've held that with many popular, mature (i.e. with lots of features) pieces of software -- take MS Word, for example -- have a central core comprising, say 20% of their functionality, that nearly everyone uses 80% of the time, but that the other 20% of the time is spent some small percentage of the remaining 80% of the functionality. That is, most people don't make use of the entire set of facilities, and there's little overlap of features used between different users, except for the common core of functionality. So if you get that central sweet spot right, you're probably going to do well for most people. Evernote pretty much hits that sweet spot for me, and for a lot of other folks as well, I'd guess.

I like this. I think it's a wise view of "mature" software. And it describes my perception of what happens with Evernote pretty well, as I observe people describing their uses of it in these forums. I'm quite content with what Evernote is, and interested in what it's becoming, but I don't expect it to do everything for me, especially not relatively "niche" things, and I'm sure I'll never use all of its features.

2 hours ago, Paul A. said:

For everyone planning to stick with Evernote (as am I, for now), I'm curious as to how you would response to price increases and curtailment of the "free" tier. As I've said upthread, I think that's the #1 near-term risk with this acquisition.

For me, it would depend on the amount of the increase. I pay for a Professional subscription now, and for me it's well worth it given my use of the service. Can't really speculate on what would feel like "too much."

This is unusual. It might be worth subscribing for just one month in order to contact support about it, and get access to Note History (though if the notes have truly disappeared, their history will have gone too. After the problem is solved you can drop back to the free level.

23 hours ago, cpjones44 said:

This annoyed me so much that I cancelled my Evernote subscription. Went back to OneNote.

And posted in two different forums about it. These are basically user-to-user forums; Evernote staff don't visit them to count the number of users they've pleased, displeased, or lost. If there were interaction with Evernote staff happening here, I could see the point of announcing one's departure from the service, one time anyway. As it is, though, it just looks like baiting people into saying anything at all in response, so you can insult them.

I work in Windows and Android, not Mac, so my experience may be different, but I've never had my work stopped by an Evernote update prompt, which I may see 3 or 4 times a month, and can deal with at my convenience. Even Mac users who respond here often say the same. Those who are finding the experience bothersome may have workflow specifics that get interrupted, and then it's certainly better to seek something else. But why slam the door and then stick your head back in to say, "Hey, I slammed the door!"?

On 11/20/2022 at 10:46 AM, Vad said:

... Can my Evernote be hacked? Because I notice weird things: first of all, in the right top corner there's a weird link, I never placed it there, and it's not among my contents that's in the note's body. It's either a commercial add placed by Evernote, or someone else placed it there. 

What can that be?

 

 

 

Just to come back around to this issue, Evernote will try to identify a URL for material that is in a note, generally either the source of a note that has been clipped from the Web, or an email mailbox from which the content has been forwarded to this Evernote note, or a URL that is mentioned in the note somewhere. It's definitely not an ad, and extremely unlikely (to the point of nearly impossible) that someone has hacked your account to insert this URL. I have sometimes been fairly puzzled by the source of URLs connected to my notes, but after a bit of thinking I can figure out why it's there. You can always delete it. (It will be located differently in the newer version 10.)

There are several issues here. First, why is the Windows desktop app no longer recommended? Who is no longer recommending it?

The Tools > Options > General > Open Database Folder instruction applies to the older "Legacy" desktop program (v. 6), not to the current v. 10.

In v. 10, the database is stored in multiple folders and files under C:\{your_user_name}\AppData\Roaming\Evernote. You can get a rough idea by getting the size of all subfolders there.

Oh yeah.

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MAN BITES DOG!

Yesterday about noon a man in Oregon went into a sandwich shop and bought a frankfurter. According to his Facebook page, it was pretty good. The Pitchfork Tines has not been able to independently confirm this report.

 

Thanks. Very interesting. My (very limited) understanding of spell-checking in Evernote 10 is that it uses an operating system resource. So does this happen in other apps that use Windows' built-in spell checking? I could hazard a guess that it has something to do with the Electron framework that sits between Evernote and the OS. But I've never had this happen to me, so I really have no clue.

5 hours ago, gazumped said:

Pointless to speculate though - we'll only know when there's a formal announcement.  Meantime there'll be lots of panic headlines from journos

Dude, there's panic headlines in this thread. Well, I started this with the intention of letting people share their concerns, thoughtful, panicky, and both at once.

That does sound annoying. I've never experienced it myself. Frankly, I've never seen it reported in the forums before either. Since you can't reliably reproduce it, and it doesn't seem to happen to very many people, it may be that the "we're working on it" queue has got quite a few more items ahead of this one than behind it.

But in case others here want to investigate it, what version of Evernote is this, and on what kind of device and operating system?

Glad we were able to ... help? Give you something to think about until it magically fixed itself? But definitely glad it's working.

Thanks for the perspective, @jefito.

This sounds like a job for support: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. You should be able to create a ticket for an account issue without signing in.

@_01fredrik, there's really no point adding multiple copies of the same post to different, old threads. I mean, if duplication is a problem for notes, it's a problem for posts too, eh?

6 hours ago, gazumped said:

We users have suggested thousands of features and tweaks that Evernote may be working on in order,  but so many suggestions,  so little time...

In order ... maybe that's why it's taking them so long to get to my obviously brilliant and necessary suggestion ... they are going through them in alphabetical order, and I suggested Zoom interconnectivity. 

Be really careful that you've got the right email address when you log in. I know, I know.... But this sounds like an attempt to sign in with the wrong email, which makes Evernote think it's a new account.

20 hours ago, RustyC said:

I want to be hopeful, but this really reads like significant shareholders and investors think they can’t do much more with EN and the only way to get a “big payday” is to sell. We’ll probably never know what EN was sold for, but it’s likely cheap enough that it indicates Bending Spoons was really just after some of the underlying technology with no intention of carrying EN forward. 

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And this forum being this forum, go ahead with your anxious and maybe baseless fears too. Here are mine:

3 hours ago, uked34 said:

The title is the date, does that do anything for me?

It should be possible to sort the notes by title. Look for a 3-dot menu at top right. If your notes are titled something like 2022-11-16, 2022-11-17, etc. sorting them by title should preserve the sequence. See this Help article on sorting: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313628.

I'm not quite sure why @gazumped has gazumped off into device limits, but I think the title sort would be the key to this.

15 hours ago, dbvirago said:

I hate to think this means they are starting over again.

There really wasn't any hint of that in the announcement. It seems to me that a company wouldn't buy another company if they thought they'd have to rebuild everything right away. Unless, of course, they like doing that sort of thing....

5 hours ago, RobertJLee said:

Where will data be stored?

That's a really good question. I've never had any doubts about Evernote's privacy and security. But storing the data under stricter European conditions could only be good.