Dave-in-Decatur

Just to report in, my Note 4 Edge updated to Android 6 Marshmallow the other day; and Evernote updated to v. 7.9.3. But there is still S-Pen access only in the title area, not the text area. I echo hhagell's *SIGH*. Presumably this issue arose (if it arose for Samsung at all) only after the configuring of Marshmallow was complete. (And it seems to be a good bit different in TouchWiz than in standard Android.) Maybe Nougat.... Maybe Ovaltine.... Maybe Peppermint.... (or whatever; I'm making those names up!).

1 hour ago, Matt W. said:

@thepond,

I understand where you are coming from on this on the reminders in Evernote and this is something we are looking into improving. Cronofy is designed as a go-between application that connects existing calendars and is not designed to make you have to use "another application" to accomplish a task. You enable it and it is something you don't have to mess with.

This is more or less a solution while we continue to improve Evernote.

I just signed up with Cronofy yesterday to try it out, connecting Evernote to my Google Calendar, and so far it's working well. One advantage is that GCal alarms can be snoozed (on my phone). Of course once Cronofy creates the GCal event corresponding to the Evernote reminder note, it would then be possible to make the Google event repeating, though I have no idea what this would to to the EN note--duplicate it endlessly?

On 6/10/2016 at 4:21 PM, danhash said:

Let's say that I have a list of 10 URLs in a note. Evernote will add the very first URL as the note URL, so I will remove the note URL. Now, if I paste an 11th URL, now that 11th URL is added as the note URL. You can clearly see that in this case, the note URL has no useful function, so I should be able to disable the functionality with automatically adds a new URL for pasted content. If you copy and paste a quote from a website, Evernote will also add the URL you copied the text from as the note URL, even if there was no URL in the text that was copied.

On 7/11/2016 at 9:23 PM, danhash said:

@emerick, pasting with Ctrl+Shift+V does not solve the problem. Also, multiple times recently I have noticed the Note URL being automatically populated randomly, without user interaction.

Even if all I do is copy text from a website (text without a URL) and paste it in the note, and I then remove the Note URL, then at a random time in the future, the Note URL populates back with the URL that I already hand-removed (the URL that was not present in the text that I copied).

It seems that in this case Evernote is going out of its way to forcibly add the Note URL back that I obviously do not want there.

@s2sailor, yes it matters if the Note URL is there, because it has literally nothing to do with the purpose of the note, and it continually gets added back despite my intentional attempts to remove it.

@Enertse, I did raise a support ticket, because this is clearly unwanted (and unwarranted) behavior, but I was told by Evernote Support that I had to submit my bug report here, and my ticket was closed.

Just want to say that I often create notes, for a variety of purposes, in ways similarly to what danhash describes. I don't mind having the URL field populated, but it's not particularly useful in those kinds of notes. It might be good to have something in Settings to keep it from ever happening; but then for me there would be times when I would want it to happen in Web Clipper notes. kvitekp's kludge is, well, kludgey. I'll try using Clear in the drop-down next to the Source URL field, and hope that it won't repopulate on its own.

Let me suggest posting this in the Android Product Feedback forum, where it can be voted on using the arrows at the top of its page, and maybe get a little more specific attention.

On 7/10/2016 at 10:29 PM, leo23co said:

Greetings.

I normally use evernote on my android phone.  It would be really useful to be able to insert the current date and timestamp by touching a button.  It would be a good feature to be able to select default format in evernote settings, and just insert date and/or time stamp by demand (hopefully not both at the same time, one button for each).  This feature should also be included in a new note using the widget (this interface for a new note is really poor, I use it to type a fast note but I usually need to write the current date or time stamp).

I hope you include this feature.

Regards.

Good idea. I've voted it up.

Sounds like a good idea. I'd also like to be able to "snooze" an alarm without resetting it completely.

On 6/19/2016 at 1:38 PM, MikeH said:

There does not seem to be a way to request features from Evernote directly anymore, and based on what I've read in the forums, it seems like posting to the forums is the way to make our requests heard.

Go to this thread in the Windows Feedback forum, and click on the arrow to vote it up. Lots of people like the idea, but only seven have taken the .5 second to vote on it. If that's not quite what you had in mind, there may be another proposal there; or you could start a thread.

4 hours ago, Matt W. said:

Hello @Dave-in-Decatur,

You are correct in that the title uses a different editor than the actual body of the note. I am hopeful that Samsung will include the ability to support the chrome-based editor in an update to TouchWiz UI.

Thanks, Matt. I hope so too. I believe they have an incentive to do so--the S-Pen is a super device, a genuine game-changer IMO, and they will hopefully want to keep it functioning for as many people as possible. It's a reason to buy Samsung rather than another brand. OTOH ... people here think Evernote updates are a long time coming; it is as nothing compared to UI updates like this.

Just to report that I upgraded to Android v. 7.9.2 yesterday. I find that I still do have S-Pen access in the note title, but not in the body of the note. Strange that it works one place and not the other. I presume that's because a different editor is actually used in each place. It would be nice to get it back in the note body; but since it's so device-specific, and given the new Chrome-based editor, that seems unlikely.

On 7/2/2016 at 7:26 PM, gazumped said:

... the two device limit 1) doesn't include Evernote web,  so you could happily use phone / tablet and laptop (via a browser);  and 2) the two devices aren't fixed in stone - deleting access to one device and adding a different one takes a few keystrokes....

17 hours ago, csihilling said:

You can have 100 devices, it's just you can only use two at a time.

I'm not a Basic user, so I'm not affected by the 2-device limit. But I do have to say that this point--that the limit really means only using 2 logged-in devices at once--was not made at all clear in EN's original announcements, and isn't very clear even in the subsequent Devices FAQ. I can't blame Basic users for being pretty confused about it. I certainly read the original announcement as saying that they are limited to 2 devices forever, period.

If it is a matter of logging off one device and onto another, then really it's hard for me to see the 2-device limit as much of a burden, even for people skillful enough to use one device in each hand.  If 2 or more people are sharing a free account with 3 or 4 devices each ... well, honestly, even though it was allowed before, I can see how it couldn't last forever. It's like the Free Lunch Counter saying, "Sorry, but from now on you're limited to a plate and a glass; you and your crew will have to put the bowls, cups, and dessert plates down." You know, that Free Lunch Counter, the one we've all been to. 

Don't forget to click the vote button at the top of this page to help support this feature!

Ah, now I've got it! Sorry. I do see it in your latest post. I did another experiment, and I guess I can see some blurriness. But I have to say that, at least in the items I tested on my equipment, it's barely noticeable, and not enough to be a problem for me; even in your latest post the difference doesn't seem very great. But obviously it is a problem for you in what you're doing. It must have to do with the PDF rendering engine, or whatever, in the annotation window.

OK, if I understand correctly now, you're saying that the text in the PDF looks blurry in comparison with the text of the annotation itself. You don't mean that annotating the PDF causes its text to become blurry, correct? Well, I do see that, but surely that's a function of the original PDF, isn't it? I've attached another annotated PDF; I think some of the problem before was a function of taking a screenshot and then uploading it as an attachment. See how this PDF itself, rather than a screenshot looks. But it does seem to me that the answer is, if possible (which it may not be), to control the quality of the PDF in the first place.

PDF annotated 3.pdf

Thanks for posting the videos. That helps clarify (heh) the problem. Actually, it doesn't look to me like there is a problem; that's just the font and style that Evernote uses, for some incomprehensible reason, for annotations. I'm attaching a few samples, both PDF and JPG, from the annotation window and as annotated. They look just as blurry as yours. Objections to this font have been raised here, with good reason, IMHO: it looks unprofessional, unless your profession is kindergarten teacher, and takes up too much space.

I can certainly understand the desire for this type of searching. If it were just a matter of searching the local version of the notes database ("like a text editor"), it probably wouldn't be hard to implement. But with devices other than desktop or laptop computers, it might get more difficult. My understanding is that on smartphones, the database is not stored locally, so that searching has to be done on the Evernote servers. (Or perhaps on a locally-created index? Someone please correct my ignorance here!) I presume the "scalability reasons on the service" to which the search grammar article so cryptically refers have to do with this limitation.

I wasn't aware of this in Word, and it is a nice feature. Thanks for that, Linda! I use Nota Bene for my writing--it's more a research and writing tool than an "office" one--and it's very good at transposing paragraphs (and sentences, and words), and a good outliner too. But as for Evernote, I don't know that it was ever intended to be an outliner (let alone a good one!); and its editor is notoriously not its best feature. I find it works great for gathering information and short notes wherever I am, to be converted into actual writing (or even outlines) with other tools like Scrivener and Nota Bene. So far, no one-stop-shopping for writing and productivity tools!

It is possible to search for partial words, but only if you know the start of the word. From the article https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php:

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A wildcard is only permitted at the end of the term, not at the beginning or middle for scalability reasons on the service.

So if I type in "creat*" as a search term, it will find "create," "created," "creates," "creating," "creator," "creative," "creature," etc. But if I type in "*reat" it won't find anything. In fact, when I start typing, it searches for words beginning with all the characters I've typed as I type them. Putting * at the beginning of the search term is the same as putting nothing; i.e., "*rea" and "rea" will both find "real," "reality," "read," etc., but will not find "create," "treat," "breathe," etc.

This issue was reported, possibly already in connection with an earlier update. Evernote says they are aware of it. https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/96018-writing-from-right-to-left-in-hebrew-or-arabic/

2 hours ago, martin.everett said:

Hi guys,

Had a couple of negative experiences recently with the Evernote Android app (v7.9.1 on Android 6.0) - basically some of the edits I have made to my notes are not being saved.  Nothing too serious, but it is making me reconsider whether I should keep using Evernote or not.  Is there some way of making sure the notes have been synced up?  I did notice this for the first time yesterday, spent a couple of hours editing another note today, hitting save every 5-10 minutes.  Hit the tick to close the notebook and literally none of the edits had been saved.  Is there something I'm missing?

As DTLow said, a little clarification is needed: are the edits to the notes being lost altogether (and in that sense not saved)? Or do they appear in the Android app, but are not being synced to the Evernote servers (and thus not appearing in the Web, Windows, iOS, etc., versions of Evernote)? By "hitting save every 5-10 minutes," I presume you mean the Save option in the menu at top right of the editing screen?

As noted by Matt W. in another thread, v. 7.9 is an update still in the process of being rolled out, and only a relatively few users have it. If there's a problem with it, getting the exact issue clarified will help sort things out.

OK, I went ahead and tried uninstalling and reinstalling (as reported here, and only after someone else said that it worked!). And indeed I now no longer have S-pen direct input in the note text editor area; but I do have strikethrough, superscript, and subscript. And I do have all my notes intact.

No, I installed it when I installed all my apps when I got the phone last year.

What do you think about trying this: uninstalling Evernote from the phone, then reinstalling it from the Play Store? That should install the latest version clean. I presume the newly installed EN on the phone would then sync all my notes, and I'd be all set up without loss of data. I also presume that uninstalling it from the phone would not have any effect on notes--i.e., they wouldn't all seem to be deleted, and get synced to the EN servers as deleted. Would that be worth a try?

EDIT: I'll be away for a few days and probably not checking this forum; so, Matt, if you respond to this it may be next week till I take it up.

Yes, the handwriting works fine. I've tried closing EN and restarting it, and restarting the phone (twice), with the same result. Obviously the S-pen issue is only an issue for people with Samsung devices that use it. I actually don't use it that much in EN. I would probably take the strikethrough, subscript, and superscript functions over it. To paraphrase Will Smith in Men in Black, this is about an 8 or so on my Weird-****-O-Meter.

Very curious. I'm using 7.8.2 (see first screenshot). But I don't have strikethrough, subscript, or superscript (see second screenshot). And, for good measure, I do have S-pen direct input in the note text editor area (the blue-circled T in the third screenshot).

Hmm. I just went ahead and updated to v. 7.8.2. According to the Google Play listing, this update should include "Many enhancements to the editing experience.... Support for strikethrough, subscript, and superscript text styles." Some of the other items mentioned on Play (Ability to mark up images and PDFs; Select multiple notes at once) are working. But I don't see any evidence of strikethrough, subscript, and superscript; and OTOH I can still use my S-pen for direct input. This is on a Samsung Note 4 Edge, with Android OS as indicated in my signature. Did I only get half an update or something?

This is a shame. Would it be possible to indicate what advantages are gained by using the embedded version of Chrome in the new editor?

I haven't done this update yet, and may wait a bit now. I did just try using the Samsung keyboard as my input keyboard, and selecting handwriting from the options, to see whether it would be a viable alternative to direct S-pen input. Ugh. Slow (one word at a time) and very inaccurate.