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I'll give that a fresh look at some point too. I tried Nimbus about the same time as you did, it would seem, and it was too rough for me. Can't hurt to look again though.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Which Scansnap do you have @PinkElephant? I've got an older S1300. Works GREAT, but I currently have to have middleware from Scansnap (Scansnap Manager) and that only seem to work with Legacy 6.25 (not V10). I've not tried real hard to configure the ScanSnap Manger to work with V10 to be honest. But on cursory glance, it would appear it only looks for "Evernote" and I suspect it is looking for the older Windows version of Evernote and would not see HTML5 version. Honestly I wonder if it's even possible to have HTML5 Evernote (v10) interface with scanner middleware. Maybe I'd have to tell scanner to just "Scan to Folder" (see below) and EN will one day be able to regularly poll a folder for new scans? Here's a question, though: under which current v10 menu would such a "poll this Windows folder for new scans" setting go? There isn't even a menu item called Settings, as far as I can see. Just noticed that. There's Preferences, but it has all of two settings right now: Spell Check and Save Data At Logout. Doesn't look like there are going to be many settings, as such, for this new Evernote we are getting to know.

Thanks for all that! I gave Joplin a fresh look last night and imported about 2,000 of my most active notes into it. Unfortunately, Joplin is too rudimentary for my workflows. I immediately started hitting some walls and it would just mess with my world too much right now. I probably generate 10 new notes a day on average and it start with the web clipper most of the time and then I have saved searches I use daily and the like. But it was fine to give it a quick test.

Interesting. I've not experience this personally. I did in the early days, but not in the last month or so. Maybe two hangs, total in that time period.

If you don't mind me asking, how many EN notes are you migrating and what sorts of major challenges, if any, have you had migrating over to Joplin? I don't currently have any plans to migrate away, but I'm curious just in case that changes.

Oh man! I am bummed to hear this, but not at all surprised. I disabled auto-updates on my Samsung Note 10+ quite a while back when I saw the utterly abysmal reviews for V10 on Google Play Store. I mean it was really ugly in there. Windows v10 app having left a mark on me initially, I didn't want to lose my right arm (read: functioning Android EN app which I rely on so heavily). So disabling auto-updates was my hack to keep moving forward and still use Windows V10 when it was ready enough. Been using Windows V10for several weeks now. Not looking back. However, I did have to do one thing in Legacy v6.25 today, which was print a note. Last time I tried printing a note it was a complete fail. Literally. Basically a blank page. That's my State of the EN Techno Union at this point, for whatever that's worth to someone out there.

Here's an idea for note-linking which would be very, very fast and would save a measurable amount of time and clicks. What do you ENers think of it? What if you could use some very specific characters (like Markdown or something like that) in a first note, place it around some text and that would tell EN to automagically create a new, second note with that marked text as the new note's title? Use case example: Let's say I would be writing a note with some tasks in it. It would be kind of high-level for the day's todo's: [ ] Get XYZ task done [ ] Create ABC Project and get it started But ABC Project would need to have more text and tasks than I would want to put in this first note. So what I would really need would be a new note to house the many tasks and subtasks in ABC Project. Create new, second note without leaving first note When I would type that second task, still from within my first, original note, I would do something like "...{{ABC Project}}..." The "{{ }}" would trigger EN to create that brand new note for me with the title "ABC Project" and would hyperlink it to the first note -- WITHOUT EVER LEAVING THE FIRST NOTE. So now I could click on "ABC Project" and jump right to that new note and would be able to start typing the project up. No extra clicks, no leaving the original note. Instead I would have completely bypassed the multi-click process of making a new note and then linking it back to my original note, etc. And when done, I could gracefully use the "Back" arrow to return to my original note. Magical! --- There is a feature like this in the text editor Obsidian and I just thought it was brilliant. Unfortunately that app doesn't work well as a task manager, or I would practically have jumped over to it just for that feature. The primary benefit for this is the the ability to maintain one's FLOW while writing and creating new linked notes.

Wow. This is a long, ongoing request for Markdown alright. I "second" that request (it's WAY past seconding!).

I still can with my Scansnap 1300, but it may be because I have v10 AND Legacy 6.25 on my PC. I'm not sure how EPSON's scanner software works. For Scansnap, the software has integration to Evernote. It seems that is all I need. So you might reinstall the Epson software and make sure it knows about your Evernote account, somehow. Hard to say exactly how without fiddling with it myself, but that's the first place I would look if I had the problem: the middleware between your physical scanner and your Evernote account. Hope that is helpful in any way. Good luck!

FYI, developers may not see your feedback. If you want them to, suggest you send this to them via the feadback feature in the app.

I just sent my feedback on this to the developers via the app. Hope you fine people will do the same!

Best place to point this out is in the app:

I feel like Evernote is gaslighting me right now. Everything was going pretty well for the last few days using 10.5 for several days in a row as my daily driver (was on legacy 6.25 prior while EN caught the new version up, mostly in its performance speed). I have a note I use called my "Super Focused Battle Plan" which I keep as my Pinned home note. It contains tasks for each day. Anything I don't complete, I drag up to the top of the page where I've made a header for the next day (see below). I love the new draggable tasks. It makes this very smooth. So last night, I was wrapping up for the day and I cleaned up this main note, dragging incompletes to a Friday entry for today, as per usual. Satisfied I was ready for another day, I turned in around 11pm last night. Today, I go to open my pinned "Super Focused..." note and after a few minutes, I realize, I'm back to Wednesday's data. "Odd...thought I made a plan for today..." I think to myself. As I start creating today's plan, it all comes back to me, though, and I find myself vividly remembering having already done all this last night. Worse, I can't remember some of the tasks I had lined up so perfectly. Argh! Anyone else losing updates to specific notes like this? I haven't lost any whole notes yet. Just this partial data loss issue, but it's driving me a bit nuts wondering what could have happened. It's like my wife moved the furniture while telling me it was like that all along... (hence my "gaslighting" comment).

Works for me. I'm going to go with that as the explanation. Thanks!

I was about to say it's missing again (after I had re-installed it again yesterday). But it is on my PC and I managed to get it to run. But it's odd because Windows Start doesn't have an icon for it. I was only able to run it by using Windows and typing Evernote. 🤔

I had v10.x installed. Latest update (released yesterday) asked for permission to update. I let it proceed. Afterwards, no more EN shortcut anywhere on my PC. Just the Legacy app. Guess I have to reinstall. So weird. That's never happened in about 4 decades of Windows use.

Ok understood. I don't have the exact same concerns/complaints, but I definitely understand you have yours and they should be communicated. Best way to get that back to the developers is use the Submit Feedback feature here (also present at very bottom-left of screen) in v 10.x: #4 - Tags have improved lately from what I've seen. Used to be the F3 (windows) "add tag" shortcut key didn't work at all in certain situations. Now they are rocking pretty well for me. I must have sent in feedback at least 2-3x on that (every time I would try it and be frustrated by it as I moved back over to Legacy to keep working. In a couple week's I'd test it again. Just tried it this weekend and it seems good to go. So they are fixing these things but they do need the feedback to judge where the hotspots continue to be. For #5, I had very same complaint there and was not able to us the app at all in the beginning. But they performance has GREATLY improved. I can now use it on the side while still having Legacy handy for the more occasional moments that v10 lags. Personally I find this to be workable for now while they continue to enhance performance. For an app of EN's broad functional scope, I expect performance to ebb and flow as they find the right balance between the new features and what they nee do do after implementing new features. E.g., if they release, let's say, 5 new features, I would expect to maybe see it adversely affect performance at first. Then they'll put their attention on resolving the new perf. issues and then go release some new features, etc. They are releasing "new" (catching up the new app) features at a pretty impressive rate compared to most software release schedules). So my vote is to give EN a wide berth as they come racing into the finish line, if that finish line is "an app that is pretty much what we all need to be functional in our own worlds". #'s 6-7: I've not heard of those requests before, nor do I personally have a need for them. But I'd submit Feedback using above method so that you at least know you've gotten it over to the developers. They are no doubt triaging a TON of requests (millions of users who all have access to Submit Feedback). So it might just be a ways down the roadmap. We all have our priorities. EN has the almost impossible job of managing them all. I've been there at a puny scale compared to theirs and it's a completely unenviable and, frankly, thankless position to be in. Re: "but what emerges is a company that does not aim to create a product that is truly effective in its use, does not solve users' problems and does not ask them for their opinions and feedback, otherwise many of these characteristics would have already been additions!" We may have to agree to disagree here. Having said that, we can all look for and move to alternatives at any time, as I'm sure you know. I've been unable to find such, as I mentioned in my previous response, so I've decided to sublimate my initial emotional reactions into hopefully useful feedback contributions. Now that some time has passed, I can say that I see them working hard to rapidly release new features since this all started. Frankly I've never seen developers of an app of this scope get the number of releases "per square month", if you will, at the rate EN has been kicking them out. Those actions speak loudest to me, and I was a HUGELY disappointed user when this all started. I'm coming around based on the visible activity I can see they are engaged in to catch this up. Was the first v10 all handled perfectly in the initial planning? No, I don't feel it was. But that is in the past. We have to stay in the present moment in our judgments, in my opinion, and "keep moving forward..." Or move on. That's ok too. Definitely agree with what others have posted about this being a user-support forum. EN employees may or may not peek in here, but assume they don't for managing your own frustration levels and move feedback you wish to direct to EN over to the above Submit Feedback feature. Or, if an existing (already released) feature is not working as designed, then use Support and create a ticket so you can get that working the way it was designed to work. It's still true that the "squeaky wheel gets the grease", but if you really want results and to see your contributions matter, you sometimes have to send the right "squeak" to the right place. 😉

@Blackjazz Thank you for posting this!!! I was finally able to get 10.x installed on my main desktop after weeks of putting it off because I didn't have time to mess with it. Just found your post after posting my own issues on this. You just saved my Sunday. 😃

Ok, this seems to have fixed it. Delete AppData folder. Found these instructions from another thread. Worked for me. Now I can install 10.x. Next I'll try 6.25 as soon as 10.x is done updating and everything.

Same issue here. I had Legacy (6.25) installed and that had been working fine. But I've been unable to install any 10.x versions on my main PC and I get same error. So today I uninstalled all Evernote instances (6.25 and what apparently was the newer version even through it wouldn't start) and now I have neither and can't install the newer version (10.x). I'd like to get that resolved before I install Legacy again. Feel like registry edit is needed but I wouldn't know where to start and am not going to attempt anything there without specific Evernote instruction. I guess I'll try a support ticket.

Hi @MentalCompiler There are other long-term premium level users who are experiencing frustrations along the lines of what you are going through. I'm definitely one of them. 10 year user and > 20,000 notes in the app. Folks like us have been using the previous software versions long enough to have deeply engrained workflows which depend on the software functioning the way it has. Any change to the fundamental way the software was built was probably going to cause a lot of trouble for folks like us, no matter what they did. Unfortunately for us, the codebase for Evernote (and there was more than one) was on a path of self-destruction. It was becoming unmanageable (multiple flavors per operation systems like Windows, Mac, android, etc. and each with their own unique features which had to be maintained). A total revamp was inevitable, whether we like it or not. It had to be rebuilt from the ground up, which is exactly what they are doing. I have been in software development and tech for several decades now and I have no doubt that this had to be done or risk implosion one day. One thing you may want to consider in your thinking about all this is that folks like us are actually a minority in the big Evernote picture. Most people are just using EN for basic note taking. Very few are as dependent upon it in the way you and I would be. Speaking for myself, EN's "legacy" feature set is embedded in my world in much the same way the plumbing and electrical pipes of my house are embedded in my home. To just come tear it all out and install some new-fangled plumbing and wires would make my house almost unusable until the work was done. But again, we are the few, not the many. EN has studied and segmented their user base and they do recognize and appreciate our existence, but they also have to code for the majority while releasing features that help us too. It's a non-trivial task to say the least. We can express our frustrations in every way possible, and I myself have already done so here in these forums, but it doesn't change the urgency of the problem and the scope of the solution. Could it have been managed better: definitely (example: could have done way more testing before releasing first new version). Are they quickly releasing updates to make good on their promise: seems that way to me so far. Meanwhile, I myself did some extensive searches taking a new look at possible replacements. For what it's worth, none measured up for my personal needs. It's a tall order since Evernote is the center of my work & personal worlds and manage all my thoughts and tasks and everything in between. It's truly my "one ring to rule them all..." if "all" is everything about my life. I could fashion something out of two or three different systems, but I wasn't happy with any of them, if I'm being completely honest about it. (I guess that speaks somewhat to the popularity of Evernote over the years.) For someone who doesn't have that depth of use when it comes to EN, maybe there are many alternative candidates. One thing that helped increase my understanding of this whole area (after I get my initial frustrations out of the way) was to watch a series of the Behind The Scenes discussions with Ian Small (CEO of EN) where, through several videos over time, he goes into their reasoning for basically redesigning the app from the ground up, what their intentions are for making good on the promise of a better app and where they are in getting to that new and improved place as quickly as possible. I've also installed the Legacy app on my Windows devices and turned off the auto-update feature on my mobile (so I keep the legacy app for a while longer--it's not getting good reviews yet for Android). On my laptop (which is not my main workstation), I have the latest version as well and keep updating it when notified of a new update by the app. This lets me tinker with the latest releases and see how they are without causing me a lot of anguish by being forced to use the new app (since I'm still happily using the "legacy" 6.25 version). You can run both Legacy 6.25 and the latest at same time to if you only have one device to work with. Having the latest version (10.x) also let's me contribute to the development effort by providing feedback to the development team via the new app. It's not perfect, but I find it to be the most productive approach for one and all. So far I have not been able to think of a better way to approach it at this point. Software is messier business than people realize. Something like 80% of all software projects fail completely in the end. The note-taking app landscape is as strewn with the evidence of this as any other digital playing field. You might find another app that's close enough feature-wise, but will they survive long enough to become profitable (which is kind of necessary for me because I'm using the s/w to run my whole life)? Or will you one day find out they had to shutter their operations because they didn't have enough traction? It's a big factor in my opinion. Evernote knows they have a lot to lose if they ***** this up. Millions of users at stake, not just our minority group. I feel I have to recognize that in estimating the odds of their success. I have no idea how this is going to turn out. But I'm willing to keep betting on the EN horse for now, especially since they are making it easy for me to do so by providing version 6.25 so I can keep working unmolested while they do what the have to do. I could go months this way without disrupting my business and personal life. That buys them time too. Not sure if this helps you at all. Just wanted to let you know you're not alone and some possibly constructive suggestions for continuing to move forward with least disruption while you decide what's best for you in the long run. In short, I empathize completely and this is how I'm looking at it all. Cheers.

I'm forcing myself to manually update all my apps until this gets resolved. I'm somewhat terrified to receive the latest Evernote update (I'm on v 8.13) because of this horror show. It's pretty much 1 star reviews all the way down the list here in the Play Store since the "upgrade" to version 10 of the Android Evernote app. It's like the app is trying to commit user-review suicide.

Found it. Go to Google Play on your phone, Settings and then turn off Auto Update.