martyscholes

I do recall that the slogan for Evernote was “Remember Everything.” Today on the “Why Evernote” portion of the web page it has a heading “Save Everything” and “Sync Everything.” It is possible that Evernote and I disagree on the definition of Everything. As PinkElephant noted, a higher tier is probably the answer and I could live with that. At the same time, I think I pay roughly the same to iCloud for 1 TB of storage and other services. I know that storage is not free yet the cost of storage has been steadily decreasing for decades now with no end in sight. 30 years ago it was expensive to store all of your books on disk. 20 years ago it was expensive to store all of your music on disk. 10 years ago it was expensive to store all of your movies on disk. There is no way that my 120 GB or so of notes represents anything more than a rounding error in any server storage calculation. Next year my notes will cost even less to store.

I just stumbled into this thread because this morning EN is limiting me to 20 MB instead of my usual 200 MB. I suspect this is a bug that will be fixed later, but it is annoying right now as I don’t want to have to circle back to fix notes that are too small. This discussion is interesting because there seem to be two narratives: I need more storage because I am doing X and 200 MB is too small. You should not be doing X. 200 MB is more than enough for anyone. I fall into the camp of “Don’t lecture me on what I should and should not be storing into Evernote.” You have your workflow and I have mine. My workflow is hobbled by 200 MB but I find ways to cope. If 200 MB is sufficient for your needs, I think that’s awesome. Don’t pretend that you know my needs.

Is the current database encrypted at rest (on the disk)? I cannot find anywhere that addresses this question. I use Evernote quite a bit for personal and professional reasons. Recently I was issued a corporate laptop and would love to install EN on it, but the company regularly scans the data on the laptop. If I put EN on the corporate laptop, I would want assurances that the corporate scanning would not ingest all of the private data I have stored in EN. Currently I use the web version, and that’s fine, but a local copy would be even better. Does Evernote encrypt the database at rest on a Mac?

I came here to request the same. It looks like this is being addressed. It would be helpful for me to have the images appear in some deterministic order in the note.

This is an update after the support request. I was told to download 10.1 and try it, so I did. I did not see any change. Instead, I switched all notebooks not to download, then one by one flipped them to download. The process took several days on the iPad and iPhone, but the iPad claims to have completed and the iPhone is almost done. I noticed that even though the 110 GB database is completely downloaded, the Settings app under General -> Storage claims that Evernote is using 1.18 GB. Clearly, monitoring this number is not indicative of download progress. I think that with many notebooks, it is difficult to monitor progress. Downloading one at a time let me see that it was actually making headway. It was still slow. I have 208 notebooks and 20,126 notes.

I have opened support request 3193679 to address this issue, asking for guidance on how to download offline notebooks. I will post the resolution to this thread.

I truly hope this is not the solution.

My offline downloads are going backwards. Previously, Evernote was consuming 4.8 GB of storage. Today, EN is consuming 3.0 GB of storage. All notebooks are offline, pretending to download. I have 383 GB of free space on my iPad, so free space clearly is not the problem.

That is a good point. It’s a shame that iOS EN cannot use my Mac as a cache and simply pull the notes from there. It is powered up on the local network.

I am starting to convince myself that this is both an issue with iOS and with Evernote server capacity. A year or so ago, I had an issue that required uninstalling Evernote on the iPad, reinstalling and then downloading. I had expressed concern to EN support that a download would take a while, some 75 GB of data. Support told me it would happen within a few hours. I left the iPad on and the app in the foreground and let it rip. Within three or four hours, it had downloaded everything, sustaining about 100 Mb/s of read rate. Based on that, my current 112 GB database should easily download over night, especially considering that my internet now supports 1 Gb/s of download speed and the wifi can sustain 300 Mb/s to any single client. Last night I set out my iPad connected to power with EN in the foreground. It ran for about 12 hours. At the start, iOS claimed EN was using about 3 GB of storage. This morning, iOS claims that EN is using 28 GB. I monitored network usage that showed the download rate varied from 0 to 260 Mb/s. Often the connection was idle and at other times it hovered around 10 Mb/s. From this, I am concluding two things. 1. iOS only really lets EN download effectively when the device is unlocked and EN is in the foreground. 2. EN servers are so overwhelmed right now that they cannot sustain the traffic necessary to provide quick downloads.

You are correct. The first six years I used EN I did exactly that: predicting which notebooks I would need when I lacked reliable and fast connectivity. It happened often enough that I was unable to predict what I would need and when I could connect that during my last hardware refresh, I opted to pay the extra $100 or so for additional storage and decided just to keep a local copy on the iPad and iPhone. From that moment forward, I never found myself needing a note that was not downloaded. That is, until I installed this version.

Agreed on Magic Keyboard support. I recall that the following functionality was present in the previous version but is now missing: Command N creates a new note in the current notebook in the old but not current version Drag and drop of photos in split screen no longer works. I used this daily but it now seems to do nothing

This summer I bought the Raven Original document scanner that provides sheetfed scans, OCR, and drops straight into Evernote with no computer in the middle. This has forever changed how I think of scanners, making all of my previous sheetfed scanners feel like artifacts from a bygone era. I have scanned thousands of pages this summer with it. Buy the Raven scanner and never look back.

I came here to say the same. I switched to the new version a week or so ago. I love the improved speed and am starting to get accustomed to the new interface, but am struggling with downloading the notebooks for iPad and iPhone. I have 19,980 notes, a dozen or stacks and several dozen notebooks. The current database size is 110+ GB. I am unsure when or if both devices will finish synchronizing.

The auto-refresh feature bit me today. I was searching for a note with a PDF (referencing it in an email), found and opened the PDF, found the information I needed in the PDF, then switched to the email to continue writing. When I returned (less than 20 seconds later) to Evernote, it was back to the top of the search results. I had to scroll down past several dozen notes, find what I previously found, re-open the PDF, then scroll down the PDF to where I previously was, which was somewhere around page 40. By the time I found the right information in the PDF, I had forgotten what information I needed, so I switched back to the email to reorient myself. Then I switched back to Evernote only to see that yet-again, I was at the top of my search results. If there is a better way to do this, let me know. Similarly, I regularly find myself needing to view several PDFs at once. The only workaround I found is to save them individually to the iPad and then delete them when I am done. That seems wasteful.

I have three devices that automatically sync my entire Evernote database. EN sync logic is very good, but depends on a solid internet connection for all devices, something that is not always available, especially when traveling. Right now I am traveling with such poor WiFi and LTE coverage that some notes are taking longer then a day to upload from one device, and then can take even longer to download to the other town 8devices. Ideally I could make any change on any device then all three devices would sync among themselves via Bluetooth or other local technology. Then, when any one device has good internet connectivity, such as taking my phone to a coffee shop, that device would sync with the cloud. When I then bring back the phone to be near the other two devices, they would automatically sync to the phone, even though those other two devices may not have good internet connectivity. If nothing else, this would reduce internet and Evernote network traffic from users with multiple devices.

I did not realize until now that there was a way to sort by title. All of these notes are titled with the date in sort order, e.g. 2019 09 21. That certainly fixes this issue for me, yet leaves me wondering why the iOS version of EN kept this capability out of the software.

In general, I agree, but I am fighting this right now. I have a set of notes that are sorted by created date, going back many years. Today I edited an entry from yesterday by adding an attachment that made the note too big. I immediately removed the attachment so that the note size is currently maybe 7 MB (containing five paragraphs of text and two photos), but the information says the note size is 406.3 MB and it refuses to sync. I tried duplicating the note, hoping the duplicate would be the correct size, but it also claims to be 406.3 MB and refuses to sync. I copied the contents to a new note and intended to change the create date of the new note to the old note’s creation date (yesterday), only to learn that I cannot change the new note’s creation date to yesterday when using the iPad. Now I am stuck waiting until I am back in the office on Monday so that I can edit the creation date with the MacBook. Right now this seems like a silly restriction.

I want to second this request. My use case is a little different. Right now when I am in a meeting and taking notes, on my desk I have a sticky pad. If something occurs to me about the meeting itself, I will jot it on a sticky note so that I see it. For example, while Mary is explaining the next quarter estimates (and I am taking notes), I might realize that once she is done I need to clarify with John who will follow up with the supplier tomorrow. There does not seem to be a graceful way to keep taking notes in EN while jotting down this random thought. When I write an actual sticky note on the desk, it is there staring at me and I will remember to ask. Ideally, EN would have a translucent sticky note in a corner that is visible even when EN is in full screen on the Mac, and have a hotkey to cycle between the sticky note and the note I am writing. When a random thought hits me, I could immediately switch to the sticky not, jot it down, then switch back to the EN note where the cursor is still in the right place.

I want to second this feature. I have a set of web page scrapes for an online book from my university that I am reading. I accidentally made a change to a note. While I think that I pressed CMD-Z enough times to undo all changes, the note is showing a different version in the history. There seems to be no way to verify that I preserved the original note. I installed Xcode and the tools to run opendiff against the two versions, and it showed me the attached screen. The changes continue for several pages. Are the notes truly different? I really don't know.

Martin, that's good input. My setup is Firefox under Solaris but I am unfamiliar with the underlying voodoo. All I know is that once the web EN client starting showing PDFs, the X server process started consuming lots of CPU and the whole desktop slowed to a crawl. If you know of a fix or can tell me where to download and install something to make things better, I would appreciate it. martyscholes, if i've good understood, you are speaking about the embedded PDF rendering in notes with PDF attached. On linux, with chromium i don't experience this performance issue. With firefox i got a 25% on two CPU threads (dual core + hyper threading, then 25% on a core) P.S: Sooner or later, a native client will come. Evernote can't ignore linux while others are not. Until EN continue ignoring Linux, i will use it only for testing. I have given up on a native EN client, but what kept me going was the web client, which is now broken. For what it's worth, Firefox doesn't seem to be the problem. The X server, Xnewt in my case, is being hammered every time the EN web client tries to render a PDF. Maybe it's Mozilla, maybe not. All I know is it started with the web upgrade a few months ago and there seems to be no way to make it stop. At all. Not being able to stop this behavior seems myopic, but there are smart people at EN, so there must be a sane reason for it. Thanks for the feedback. That seems a touch extreme. I never could find the build instructions for FF under Solaris.

Martin, that's good input. My setup is Firefox under Solaris but I am unfamiliar with the underlying voodoo. All I know is that once the web EN client starting showing PDFs, the X server process started consuming lots of CPU and the whole desktop slowed to a crawl. If you know of a fix or can tell me where to download and install something to make things better, I would appreciate it.

with web version you can't use evernote without a internet connection, you can't export notes you can't import notes etc. etc. If the web version is all you need, you don't need evernote I would also add that the new PDF rendering engine in the web client taxes the X server to the point where the whole desktop experience is degraded. Given that this feature cannot be disabled, I have asked that a bug be filed against it. I also use EN extensively in virtual machines and also use it extensively in my primary operating system. If there is not an EN client for my OS, then the web client needs to be well-behaved.

Marco, I want EN on Linux too, mostly because I want EN on Solaris (my primary desktop) and the jump from a typical Linux distribution to Solaris is a small leap. The problem with a Linux port is that Linux is so fragmented. I mean, what is Linux? At its core, Linux is a kernel. But when you and I talk about Linux, it is so much more. What is the GUI? Most are X, but what about Android (which runs the Linux kernel). Technically, there is an Android port and therefore we already have a Linux port, but I doubt that's what you are referring to. Which session manager / desktop environment should they support? Gnome? KDE? All of the smaller variants out there? What about window managers and widgets? If EN targets the hardcore Linux folks then they need to include those who simply run twm. What about the old-school Motif and Athena guys? Should they ignore the OPEN LOOK people too? Linux has been ported to a bunch of CPUs and architectures. Should they include a MIPS version as well as x86? What about SPARC and the Alpha folks? Itanium? ARM sales are starting to dwarf x86, should they include that too? Besides hardware, what libraries should they assume exist on the target machine? What services? What dependencies should they assume are present? If you are thinking, "Let the package manager handle the dependencies" then we need to consider which package manager should be targeted. Redhat's RPM? Debian's system? Any of the myriad of others? Should they include it in the upstream repositories or target individual distributions? What would you tell the Gentoo folks who like to roll their own? What about Mint which itself has several sub-distributions? Going that far, should they then exclude all of the FreeBSD people as well? That opens up a whole other can of worms. In all of this, I still don't know which distribution you run, or if you rolled your own. The point is that there is no simple and straightforward solution to "make a Linux port." If I am wrong on any of the above, let me know. Thanks, Marty

For the next person trying to solve this problem, it seems this is indeed a nuance of Web Clipper. I installed a small httpd server on a virtual machine, copied over the files and they clipped just fine on the local machine's browser. In short, Web Clipper refuses to clip local files. If you want to clip them, copy them to another machine and access the other machine with your web browser.