martyscholes

Agreed. It is like night and day.

I can share my personal frustration. Far too often, I am mid-thought when writing when I realize I need to see something in a note in a notebook already open on another monitor. I will click on the note to give it focus so I can scroll through the note. When I do not see a response, I click again (sometimes necessary when switching monitors). Usually, Evernote will later register both clicks then spawn a fullscreen window of the note, taking several seconds to render and being completely unresponsive until it finishes rendering. By then I have forgotten what I was trying to do in the first place. I will press CMD-W to get rid of the window I never wanted, go back to the document I was writing, re-orient myself, then go back to Evernote. I find it frustrating.

Everything PinkElephant said, plus be very careful that the new environment can handle the load if you have a larger database. I attempted a switch to Apple Notes last year, summarized here: https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/113738-note-size-limit-increase/?do=findComment&comment=627412

That's a fair question. For me, it is too slow under certain circumstances, enough that it disrupts my flow and thought processes. I upgraded this MacBook Pro partly to improve the speed of Evernote. It is better on M1 Pro but not better enough, in my opinion.

Mac EN hosts a local copy of the database. A fresh install induces a complete download that can take many days to complete. Consider letting it stay powered up and connected continuously, including overnight, until the sync completes.

We agree that this feature will not bubble to the top of EN’s priority list for a while, if ever. The workaround you propose certainly works for greenfield (new) notes and notebooks. As HSM notes, the workaround does not work well for brownfield (existing) notes and notebooks. In the end, this missing feature is one more reason that iPad EN cannot replace desktop EN yet.

I also see this as a critical feature. I use the create date to refer to the date the content was created and sort accordingly. That works well for the desktop version. Others seem to use create date to refer to the date the note was created in Evernote, regardless of the date of the content in that note. This works well when the note content is entered into Evernote at the same time the content is created. Evernote iOS assumes that all content is entered into Evernote at the time of creation. When the note is entered into Evernote on a date other than when the content is created (for whatever reason), then this assumption falls apart. I have zero interest in tracking when the content was entered into Evernote. I have much more internet in tracking when the content was created, whether or not it was entered into Evernote on that date.

Apple switches architectures every 15 years or so. Perhaps EN decided to skip ARM and instead prepare for the next architecture switch in 2035?

Tonight I retired a 2018 Intel i5 MacBook Pro, replacing it with a 2021 M1 Pro MacBook Pro. A large driver for the purchase was the hope of improved EN performance. I should have checked here before I made the plunge, but now I am here. The EN database is downloading and likely will continue downloading for the next several days. It is disappointing to learn that EN still is not native to the new MacBook architecture. By new I mean more than a year old.

I know this has been discussed before, but after fully downloading my database a few months ago, I noticed it has come out of sync — see photo. I let it run for a bit in the foreground, but it was only managing some 145 kb/s — see photo. Is this normal? Is it OK? I know some people have some responses prepared, so let me save some bandwidth by addressing those preemptively. See below expected responses and my response to those responses. The storage is full Nope. See attached photo clearly showing 500+ GB available. You have a slow connection Nope. See attached speed test I just ran. You have a slow iPad Nope. See attached photo identifying this as an M1 iPad Pro. You shouldn’t download your notebooks (it is a waste; no one needs to do that; you have better uses for your storage; etc.) Maybe or maybe not, but this is a philosophical discussion that probably has nothing at all to do with download speed. Does anyone know what causes slow download speed?

In case it helps the next person, I spent a week experimenting with importing Evernote (EN) notes to Apple Notes (AN) then aborted that effort last night after talking to Apple support. AN has several serious flaws to keep in mind when considering a migration: AN will silently drop attachments and features it does not support This is terrifying AN will not let you know if / when it finishes synchronizing I let one set of imports settle over the weekend but my five Notes instances (iCloud, personal MacBook Pro, work MacBook Pro, iPhone, iPad) never agreed on note counts and content This is also terrifying AN is terribly sluggish when loaded After loading 20 GB of the 160 GB database, AN was borderline unusable AN logs (from Notes app and cloudd process) never did quiesce after days of synchronizing, continuing to report errors and warnings This is also terrifying AN has zero facility for redating notes Occasionally I change the creation date of Notes in EN and this is a critical capability for me AN has no meaningful way to export notes This makes the migration to AN a one-way trip with no escape hatch In the end, my fear of AN lack of integrity trumped my reasons for migrating to AN. BIG REASONS TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM EN EN has note size limits that I regularly bump up against This is still an issue but perhaps may change soon I am reluctant to install EN on my work laptop because I do not want my personal information swept by a corporate backup or monitoring process If EN had encryption at rest then this would not apply SMALL REASONS TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM EN Premium EN costs $ Still true, but in the grand scheme of things this is just a few dollars per month EN is getting sluggish-ish But AN is worse at scale For me, the big reasons to migrate are not big enough to overcome the fear of notes losing integrity in AN. Cheers, Marty

Agreed. This is yet another reason for EN to implement encryption at rest.

I would actually prefer that EN said, “Our magic is in the note app, not the storage” then allow me to choose whatever backend storage I prefer, e.g. iCloud. I would pay the same or even more for the software, despite having storage costs on top of the software costs.

This issue is near and dear to my heart. Because of this and other limitations, as an experiment, I am trying to move my entire database to Apple Notes. It is not going very well. I would be willing to pay more, perhaps even double, to overcome this and other limits. I have heard this approach before. I want my notes to be a fully contained archive without external dependencies. Those items on which the note depends may or many not exist when I want to read the note. Evernote’s concept is perfect for storing this type of data.

We are clearly not communicating well. EN does tell users what to do, but those instructions depend on certain iOS security features not being used. When those iOS security features are used (as in my case), the EN instructions do not work. iOS has a feature to accommodate this situation. I suggested that the EN app take advantage of those features. Nowhere do I suggest that this happen without user acknowledgement or that anyone should be surprised.

Agreed. The rules specifically allow for keeping the app in the foreground. When sync is complete, the EN app could set this back to false. This should be false by default, only enabled when the user requests offline download. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiapplication/1623070-isidletimerdisabled Support describes what has to be done but that solution assumes the presence of certain capabilities that might be absent.

I have learned a little more. First, any app can disable the screen lock with the following configuration item. It seems that this is the method used by video players, maps, and stopwatches to keep the screen lit. UIApplication.shared.isIdleTimerDisabled = true Second, by using Guided Access, the iPad can be locked to running a single app with an override for screen timeout. I am currently running Evernote in the foreground using this approach. In my opinion, if EN needs screen auto lock to be disabled, the EN app should provide that capability.

When I joined my current company and installed Outlook, the Never option was removed from auto lock settings. I think this is some security thing, since my iPad now insists that I change the PIN regularly too. I am unclear how to get around this limitation.

Thanks for the suggestions. I struggle with the answer that this is an iOS limitation and not an EN limitation, since somehow Outlook seems to work in the background as do Notes and Reminders. Even when in the foreground, the EN app downloads at a glacial rate. I am currently seeing a 0.5 mbps download rate on a 1200 mbps connection. I cannot set my auto lock time to never, but I can have the tablet open in front of me while working on the Mac. Maybe I can just let it grind away when I am not using it today and it will hopefully catch up.

I know this has been an issue before but it is still a problem with a new M1 iPad Pro. I am now in day five of using the new tablet and Evernote still has not downloaded offline notebooks. This is running iPadOS 14.6 and Evernote 10.11. Attached is an example of the download status for a few notebooks showing that downloads have a long way to go. The responses in the past to offline download problems include: You do not have enough storage Incorrect: see second attachment of the current state of iPad storage; there is plenty of free space Leave the iPad on all night with Evernote in the foreground I have a limitation whereby I can only leave the screen on for up to five minutes; see the third attachment for my screen locking options. You don’t need offline notebooks Maybe, but that is an option and it seems to be not working Has anyone figured out how to get the offline downloads to complete? Many thanks, Marty

I have used Evernote for about a decade and love it but have found myself using Evernote primarily on an iPad Pro and my work laptop via Evernote Web. My personal machine has desktop Evernote and is generally powered down all week but then powered up on the weekend for schoolwork. As a result, I rarely use the desktop client throughout the work week. Sometimes I will find that I need to do something and cannot figure out the solution, such as a rename a scanned document file name sent to Evernote from a Raven scanner. I could not figure out how to rename it with the web app nor the iPad app. I opened a support ticket asking for guidance. The answer was, “Use the desktop app.” I have had several questions that were answered in a similar way. I am wondering if I am the only Evernote user that rarely uses the desktop app. Does anyone else here use Evernote regularly without resorting to the desktop app? Is it possible to survive without desktop Evernote?

I think we agree that some boundaries should exist around what and how much is stored in Evernote. We probably disagree on where those boundaries should be.

Support kindly reminded me that I had a 200 MB limit. I notified that I was seeing the error on an 80.1 MB note while trying to enter text. Support then asked for a screen recording showing the error, which I supplied. I discovered that I was able to finish editing the note by editing it on the iPhone, which was a tremendous pain, but at least it is done. It will be interesting to see what Support says.

Starting this morning Evernote on iPad is unusable. While I was writing a note, a pop up told me that I had reached the limit for my plan. I have uploaded 480 MB of 10 GB, so that is hard to believe. I opened support request 3293950 because it was not allowing me to attach files to a note. I tried to work through it, suffering from regular pop ups every few seconds as I typed. Then I learned that my typing was not saved into the note. Evernote is now effectively unusable. I opened support request 3293961. I need to trust a note taking tool. This has seriously eroded my trust in Evernote’s availability.

Woohoo! I came here looking for help with filenames being truncated when files are shared via the share sheet in 10.6. I noticed there is an update to 10.7 so I installed it and tested sharing a file. The filenames no longer appear to be truncated. Thank you. Now, if I could just figure out how to update a file name. Let me give you an example of why that is helpful: With an iOS app, open a document (such as a credit card statement) that I want to put into Evernote. The app names the March 2021 statement PDF with a name similar to 249b3802-91c8-11eb-a8b3-0242ac130003.pdf I want to put that in Evernote, but the name is useless both for the note and the file (in case I need to download the file later). If I share the file into Evernote, I can certainly fix the title, but not the filename. Thanks again for fixing the filename truncation, Marty