question re V7 and V10 common databsse

[peterlemer 13]

Somehow these 2 databases were once common, now they're disconnected.

 

How can I get V7 to sync wioth v10 again?

 

pete

[agsteele 2,950]

v7 and v10 actually operate separate data on the device but both connect with the data held in the Cloud.

So what you need to do first of all is work out which application is failing to sync with the cloud.  This will only work if you are a subscriber and not on the Free plan.

If you are on the Free plan then I think you are stuck since Free plan users can only have two 'devices' connected to your account.  For these purposes each application counts as a device.

If you are a subscriber then you can access Evernote via the web client.  Make a simple but easily identified change in v7 and separately v10.  Check which one isn't sync-ing to the web client.

Once you have that information you will be in a position to fault find the sync for that client.

[peterlemer 13]

Thanks agsteele, I am stymied by the fact that my v7 app, seems to have updated to v10 😞 including my 2 more backups.

 

 

I need a v7 to reinstall, Any ideas?

 

pete

[agsteele 2,950]

There was an update message that some users feel was somewhat misleading and they thought they were getting an updated v7 but actually got v10. Since I have been using v10 for sometime I didn't see that message.

I don't recommend use of v7 any longer.  It seems that it has a very time limited existence. If you search these forums links to the old version are sometimes posted by others. If you need Legacy to keep you going until you find an alternative product then that could be a good way forward.  If, though, you intend to transition to v10 eventually then I would recommend that you make peace with the change and discover how to work with the new product.

It took me less than two weeks to forget how I previously did things in Legacy.

As for backups, if you feel the need then you can manually achieve this backing up each notebook. Or you can automate the process with a GitHub project called evernote-backup or a commercial product called Backupery.

[PinkElephant 8,118]

You can download v7.14 here:

https://cdn1.evernote.com/mac-smd/public/EvernoteLegacy_RELEASE_7.14.1_458325.zip

However I second @agsteele that the use of this version is not recommended at all. It uses an outdated syncing method which always syncs the whole note. This may cause syncing conflicts, as it has done since it was launched. V10 syncs instantly, and only the changes. Both don’t live well together.

[peterlemer 13]

4 hours ago, agsteele said:

There was an update message that some users feel was somewhat misleading and they thought they were getting an updated v7 but actually got v10. Since I have been using v10 for sometime I didn't see that message.

I don't recommend use of v7 any longer.  It seems that it has a very time limited existence. If you search these forums links to the old version are sometimes posted by others. If you need Legacy to keep you going until you find an alternative product then that could be a good way forward.  If, though, you intend to transition to v10 eventually then I would recommend that you make peace with the change and discover how to work with the new product.

It took me less than two weeks to forget how I previously did things in Legacy.

As for backups, if you feel the need then you can manually achieve this backing up each notebook. Or you can automate the process with a GitHub project called evernote-backup or a commercial product called Backupery.

Thanks, agsteele, I need v7 as it allows me to link local files.

I have installed legacy today, which allows me to reach locations on my hard and SSD drives

 

pete

[peterlemer 13]

3 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You can download v7.14 here:

https://cdn1.evernote.com/mac-smd/public/EvernoteLegacy_RELEASE_7.14.1_458325.zip

However I second @agsteele that the use of this version is not recommended at all. It uses an outdated syncing method which always syncs the whole note. This may cause syncing conflicts, as it has done since it was launched. V10 syncs instantly, and only the changes. Both don’t live well together.

Thanks Mr Elephant :-). have installed legacy today, which allows me to reach locations on my hard and SSD drives.

Is there any sign on your, or the panel's radars, that suggests we might be able to link to local files again? ( On Mac)

 

pete

[PinkElephant 8,118]

You can link local files, but you need to type part of the path yourself. Say you have this path to a file:

/Users/myusername/Desktop/myfilename.ext

In EN use the blue + menu to insert a link. Type a name into the Text field, and copy the path from the Finder into it. In front of the path add file:// and save the link.

file:///Users/myusername/Desktop/myfilename.ext

When you click on the Text (which shows in blue, indicating there is a link behind it) it will take you to the Finder and there to the file. With some file types it will open the corresponding app, and open the file in the app right away (for example pdf in Preview, Keynote presentation in Keynote etc.).

[VincentC 266]

I'm on Windows and I can link to local files without all the typing that Pink suggests.  Basically, in Windows,  I drag the file onto the Chrome Omnibar.  Then I copy and paste the link into Evernote using the add link, Control-K, function.  BTW, I didn't come up this with myself - with Google-foo, I found a post from 2012 posted by JMichaelTX (I think on these forums but maybe somewhere else) that described this tactic.  Tried it in Windows and, yay!, it worked.  

Hope it works for you.

 

 

[PinkElephant 8,118]

Thanks for the tip, sounds good.

Some people - like me - won’t touch a Google product like Chrome, for obvious reasons. I haven’t found a better way directly than adding the file-string to the path.

[peterlemer 13]

13 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You can link local files, but you need to type part of the path yourself. Say you have this path to a file:

/Users/myusername/Desktop/myfilename.ext

In EN use the blue + menu to insert a link. Type a name into the Text field, and copy the path from the Finder into it. In front of the path add file:// and save the link.

file:///Users/myusername/Desktop/myfilename.ext

When you click on the Text (which shows in blue, indicating there is a link behind it) it will take you to the Finder and there to the file. With some file types it will open the corresponding app, and open the file in the app right away (for example pdf in Preview, Keynote presentation in Keynote etc.).

I treid this again, having tried it before and failed now, as then.

It's a folder with this filepath: /Volumes/T7_Projects/COMPOSITION/New Song Default Folder/IVORY :Destination3MEDITATION3/Meditation 3/Charts

In previous EN this procedure ( with which I am very familiar) would take me to the folder in Finder.

 

This is what V10 gives me:

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by peterlemer
second thoughts :-)

[peterlemer 13]

8 hours ago, VincentC said:

I'm on Windows and I can link to local files without all the typing that Pink suggests.  Basically, in Windows,  I drag the file onto the Chrome Omnibar.  Then I copy and paste the link into Evernote using the add link, Control-K, function.  BTW, I didn't come up this with myself - with Google-foo, I found a post from 2012 posted by JMichaelTX (I think on these forums but maybe somewhere else) that described this tactic.  Tried it in Windows and, yay!, it worked.  

Hope it works for you.

 

 

Hi Vincent, thanks for response.

I tried your procedure on Firefox, Mac, and sadly it didn;t work.

In any case, I need to access 50+ files and folders all over my directory and doing thos process requires one at a time, I guess

 

pete

[Boot17 1,452]

15 hours ago, peterlemer said:

Is there any sign on your, or the panel's radars, that suggests we might be able to link to local files again? ( On Mac)

We already can. And it was pointed out before: 

Something is not working on your end of it.

 

[Boot17 1,452]

1 hour ago, peterlemer said:

This is what V10 gives me:

What does your link look like? It looks like you are putting in a link to the folder/directory path instead of the path to the specific file inside that folder/directory.

[peterlemer 13]

1 hour ago, Boot17 said:

What does your link look like? It looks like you are putting in a link to the folder/directory path instead of the path to the specific file inside that folder/directory.

Yes, I am putting the link to the containing folder for the project, which includse DAW files, audio files, charts etc.

In my example the folder is here: /Volumes/T7_Projects/COMPOSITION/New Song Default Folder/IVORY :Destination3MEDITATION3/Meditation 3/Charts

 

 Where the folder 'charts' contains pdf instrumental parts.

[PinkElephant 8,118]

The links are made for files and their associated apps. I am not aware they are made to open folders as well.

The EN concept is a note works the same way as a folder. It is a Container able to hold all sort of content, plus links to files.

[peterlemer 13]

4 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

The links are made for files and their associated apps. I am not aware they are made to open folders as well.

The EN concept is a note works the same way as a folder. It is a Container able to hold all sort of content, plus links to files.

The previous EN took me straight to any folder I wanted. The trick being /file://the filepath/

 

pete

[agsteele 2,950]

How would this be as a workaround... If I've misunderstood the requirement then my apologies.

This is for a Windows system...

Create a shortcut on your computer desktop for the folder/directory you want to access from within Evernote.

Drag and drop that shortcut into a destination note inside your Evernote account.  You can then open the file explorer window for that directory with a double click on the shortcut link inside Evernote.

Finally delete the shortcut on the desktop unless you want to keep it there for other reasons.

[peterlemer 13]

2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

The links are made for files and their associated apps. I am not aware they are made to open folders as well.

The EN concept is a note works the same way as a folder. It is a Container able to hold all sort of content, plus links to files.

I tried to open a file, not a folder, and I got this:

[peterlemer 13]

2 hours ago, agsteele said:

How would this be as a workaround... If I've misunderstood the requirement then my apologies.

This is for a Windows system...

Create a shortcut on your computer desktop for the folder/directory you want to access from within Evernote.

Drag and drop that shortcut into a destination note inside your Evernote account.  You can then open the file explorer window for that directory with a double click on the shortcut link inside Evernote.

Finally delete the shortcut on the desktop unless you want to keep it there for other reasons.

That's lovely, agsteele, I played with it on my Mac and even dragged the file, let alone the alias, and they opened .

However, It also opened all the other files in the Finder folder and...

I don;t want to open a file, I want to open a folder in the FInder, not in EN, and browse the contents.

Thanks for this good trick, I'll try to include it as I go forward

 

cheers

 

pete

[Dave Green 210]

Folders work for me again in10.60.4 and I think the buggy 59.5 on the Mac.  I do covert any spaces in path to %20 although it has been suggested that it is not required. 

[peterlemer 13]

34 minutes ago, Dave Green said:

Folders work for me again in10.60.4 and I think the buggy 59.5 on the Mac.  I do covert any spaces in path to %20 although it has been suggested that it is not required. 

Thanks David. Not sure what you mean about 10.60. I get " Evernote 10.58.8 is currently the newest version available."

My interest is raised 🙂

(later) Ahhhh, the app Store tells a different story. Now installing 10.60

pete

[PinkElephant 8,118]

2 hours ago, peterlemer said:

I tried to open a file, not a folder, and I got this:

….

If you have not granted EN all the necessary permissions in MacOS, it is NOT the fault of EN if links are not working.

Probably the „Full disk access“ is not allowed in MacOS settings, security & privacy.

BTW you are running an outdated version of MacOS.

[peterlemer 13]

I have to own up to misleading the panel by using the wrong terms/concepts.

 

However thanks to everyone who responded, which has helped me make some distinctions.

What I am /really/ looking for is the familiar ( to me, at least) 'Reveal in Finder'

This is what I've meant by 'open' which was/is incorrect.  I dont't want files to open in EN, I want to go to the folder on my drive to access other material associated with a particuler audio.

 

Again, apologies. I hope this makes my need clearer.

 

pete

[Boot17 1,452]

This works for me:

file:///the filepath/

Make sure you have three forward slashes after "file:" and one forward slash at the very end of the path.

[PinkElephant 8,118]

Just gave it a try: With a folder path in the link section, it opens the folder in the finder.

file:///Users/myuser/Documents/Folder/Subfolder

With this link the subfolder is opened in a new Finder window. This works with or without a slash at the end.

@peterlemer Nice discovery by this question, I never tried before. Thanks for bringing this up.

[peterlemer 13]

@PinkElephant@Boot17

Thanks again.

 

I've put this in the link section:`

file:////Users/petelemer2/Pictures/Saved Pictures/

And EN returns ( see attachment)

1. I don;t want to 'open' anything. I want to see the folder in Finder.

2. How do I adjust the permissions anyway?

 

pete

 

[agsteele 2,950]

That is an operating system message. It will something to set within the OS. Hopefully a Mac expert will be along soon to advise.

[Boot17 1,452]

 

1 hour ago, peterlemer said:

1. I don;t want to 'open' anything. I want to see the folder in Finder.

But you do want to open 'Saved Pictures' in Finder. 

1 hour ago, peterlemer said:

2. How do I adjust the permissions anyway?

Try here: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/control-access-to-files-and-folders-on-mac-mchld5a35146

I also notice you are using the App Store version of Evernote with this comment:

On 8/9/2023 at 2:08 PM, peterlemer said:

Ahhhh, the app Store tells a different story. Now installing 10.60

The app store version of Evernote is sandboxed (meaning the OS locks down its abilities more to use resources external to the app itself -- things like accessing external documents).

So you could also try deleting the App Store version and downloading Evernote directly from https://evernote.com/download if the steps above in that Apple support link don't help you.

 

 

[agsteele 2,950]

Ooh yes ... The app store versions create significant challenges interacting with the OS.

[peterlemer 13]

@Boot17 Evernote is fully 'Permissed' ( IYKWIM) 🙂

and has been all along...

 

[peterlemer 13]

1 hour ago, Boot17 said:

The app store version of Evernote is sandboxed (meaning the OS locks down its abilities more to use resources external to the app itself -- things like accessing external documents).

So you could also try deleting the App Store version and downloading Evernote directly from https://evernote.com/download if the steps above in that Apple support link don't help you.

 

 

OMG! THAT WORKS!

Thank, you Sir!

Pete.