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If you follow the history of the thread, then I think you'll probably see that this is an intentional stance on the part of Evernote (look for posts by @engberg), rather than making a virtue out of necessity. My take is that they have tended to emulate GMail's structure more closely than anything else: GMail has some predefined folders, but not nested folders; these are like Evernote notebooks. GMail also has labels, which can be nested, but are more like tags (sadly, the GMail also documentation uses the term 'folders' to describe them, but they are not folder-like in that they can be applied to multiple emails). From everything I've seen from Evernote employee postings, here and elsewhere, they just don't seem to think that nested notebooks are necessary. That being said, there may be added resistance due to cost of implementation, but I really think that the architectural choices here are philosophical.

I think that this about sums up the situation: you broke Evernote with the 'lucky patcher app'. @gazumped is right; you need to uninstall Evernote, and stop your patcher app from trying to modify Evernote, and then reinstall Evernote.

First off, it seems that you don't actually understand the 'Guru' role; the label 'Guru' is only based on post count, and not anything to do with marketing Evernote. Beyond that, nobody's advice here is "Evernote isn't right for you", so far as I know; it's more like "if nested notebooks are a requirement for your use of Evernote, that it's probably not for you (since it doesn't meet your requirements). On the other hand, here are some alternative things you could try in Evernote that might work for you, etc., etc.". But hey, if you're implying that the proper reply is actually that Evernote is perfect for users who have requirements that Evernote doesn't meet, then you, as a fellow Evernote user, are certainly welcome to try it out...

The standard solution to this: don't use your work computer for personal stuff. It's not your computer. It's not private. If you want to use Evernote for work, then you should have a separate account for work (it can be a free account). I do this. If you have content in your personal Evernote account that you might need at work, and don't care if anyone sees it, put it in a separate notebook and share that to your work account. I do this with my software development notebook. If you have work content that you want to see on your home computer, share it to your personal account. I work at home on occasion, so I share several notebooks in this way. If you want to jot quick personal notes to yourself, it's probably better to use your phone for that. Your OS has a system that allows you to have separate accounts for other people, but still have common files. This scenario is what it's there for.

A notebook is like a box that you can put notes into. Tags are labels that you attach to notes that tell you what's in the note. You can find notes by browsing notebooks, or by browsing tags, or by search filters (where you can specify notebook, tags, text, and other metadata) to isolate the notes you're looking for. You can do it all with tags, if you want: a main tag for course, and subtags for topics. Add tags as necessary. You need to remember that tags are unique: they reside in exactly one place in the tag tree; you you may need to resort to naming tricks to make unique tags relating to a course, if you want to build a tag browse tree (one you can browse down to find specific notes). Or you can reuse tags to categorize your notes (much as we reuse words in different context) to search for the notes you're interested in. There are lots of ways to go about this; it's all pretty much up to you...

If there are updates, you'll see them in the release notes of your Evernote software., as usual. I wouldn't expect having language color coding any time soon; as you can see, there are more important things that they need to focus on like editor stability; plus, I'm guessing that improvement that are aimed towards more general utility (like tables, styles, etc.t) would be more important to them than improvements mainly aimed at software developers. Myself, if I want code highlighting (which is rare), I'll just use my IDE for that.

The Windows and Mac Evernote applications have two types of notebooks: normal and local. Local notebooks are never synced to the Evernote servers, so you want to be very careful about using local notebooks, because you need to do your own backups. Recommendation: don't use local notebooks unless you really need them and you really, really know what you're doing. By contrast, normal notebooks are always synced to the Evernote cloud, so your notes are safe. Beyond that, the Windows client has something called On Demand sync, as described above. where notes are not necessarily stored locally all the time, but can be downloaded automatically from the Evernote servers as you need them.

That web page works for me. Clipped successfully. Win 10, Chrome version 61.0.3163.100 (Official Build) (64-bit). Web clipper version 6.12.3

Because historically, they have chosen tags as the main organizational feature for Evernote. See answers by ex- Evernote employee engberg earlier in this topic. Tags are not a workaround in and of themselves. In addition, you can build hierarchies of tags to simulate nested notebooks, but it's not a perfect fit. Even so, some people find this useful; many do not. Yes. No. Maybe. I know that it would be a large architectural change for them, which isn't unprecedented, but if they don't want to do it, then difficulty isn't really the showstopper. If nested notebooks / folders whatever is a critical feature for you, then Evernote may not be your product...

That would be a terrible user interface choice. Say that you have a tag that lives on only one note; maybe it's "Todo", and you use it to figure out the your current task. You finish the task that corresponds to the note, wanting to start another todo task, so you remove the "Todo" tag, and... oops!! It got deleted, so you can't apply it unless you create it all over again. Moreover, with that policy in place, you cannot set up a tag schema in advance; you always need to apply a tag to a note first. Beyond that, since tags are organized hierarchically, it's entirely likely that a tag might be used for organization purposes in the tag tree without ever being assigned to any note. In general, Evernote does not automatically remove things unless you do request it explicitly. The only exception that I can think of is with Evernote stacks, which do disappear when you remove the last notebook from them. But stacks are special in Evernote, as they only exist if there's a notebook that references them. See the Evernote API ref, Notebook section. The relevant quote is: And also the Notebook section of the API: http://dev.evernote.com/doc/reference/Types.html#Struct_Notebook. There is no Stack object in Evernote; they only exist as a string field in a Notebook. Tags, on the other hand, do exist as objects in the API (http://dev.evernote.com/doc/reference/Types.html#Struct_Tag), and there's no stricture that they actually be applied to a note. That being said, it would be useful to have a convenient operation that showed how many notes a tag is assigned to. The Tags pane in the Windows client will show you note counts for your tags, but you still have to scan it by eye. Edit: one thing you can do in the Windows client is to hold the Ctrl key down when you click on the Help menu item. This exposes a number of additional menu items, usually used for support purposes. One of them is "Delete unused account tags". This should do what you are looking for, but I'd caution you to back up your Evernote database first, in whatever way you do it normally. I haven't tried this, so I don't know what to expect.

The other thing that you can do is root for them to improve the web client, which actually exists today (as opposed to an official Evernote client for Linux), but seems like it needs some attention.

As far as I know, these aren't in the Windows client. These are in the Windows client, all as options you can enable or disable. Tools / Options / Note / Note editing options. There is no support for headings, per se, because there's no support for headings in Evernote at this time. It's a frequently requested feature (even more than Markdown, and deservedly so, in my opinion). I never said 'too slowly'; sure, there are features I'd like to see, but Evernote works well for me now, hence my stance:

Thanks. Missed (or forgot) that one. OK, from the blog post: "Basic markdown will be a reality." Basic markdown != actual Markdown. As I said above, they've added some Markdown-ish shortcuts to the Windows client (and maybe the Mac client), but that's a long way from the real thing, and that quote doesn't promise actual Markdown. That being said, the common editor project is still a work in progress, but the work is pretty slow at present.

Reference for this? I found this thread: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/89115-feature-request-what-is-markdown-and-why-evernote-needs-it/, but saw no evidence that Evernote was committing to a full-on Markdown experience.

And it's been requested elsewhere, so you should use search to find that, and add your vote to it. We try to keep separate requests, well, separate. Evernote staff don't often comment on feature requests; sometimes they do, and sometimes not. In this topic, it's a not. There's a lot of us, and not so many of them, so that's somewhat understandable. As it is, in the Windows client, they've taken some small steps to add Markdown-ish shortcuts for some features (bullet lists, tables, etc.), but it's far from full Markdown, and the original 'Markdown' text is not retained. Oh, and 'everyone' is not pushing for it. To be sure, this is a pretty popular request, but it doesn't include everyone, by far.

This would be nice, but it's not Markdown. Actually, that's a common-sense take on the situation. Basically, the stance is "Evernote doesn't supply it now, and while it's fine to request it, there's no guarantee that they will add it. Therefore, if it's critical to your workflow (and third-party additions like Marxico -- see https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/61145-marxico-the-missing-markdown-editor-for-evernote/ -- don't cut it) then you should look elsewhere".

Working fine for me. Opened a web page in Chrome on Android on my phone. Went thought the Share / Send to Evernote dance. While the Evernote icon wast spinning, tapped on it to ensure that I was saving the full article (I was), and let it finish. Opened up Evernote on the same device, let it sync, and the article was there. Took about 30 seconds for the whole sequence, end to end. Running the 7.14 beta 1 build, if that's any use.

Don't confuse them with facts, D-i-D...

A web search on "evernote use tags to simulate folders" turned up a number of topics https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/22415-how-i-use-tags-to-replicate-nested-folders/ https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/25383-archived-organize-notes-in-folders/ https://michaelhyatt.com/evernote-tags.html The list goes on... A few things to remember: While you can generally have a folder with the same name as a folder in a different part of the tree, you cannot do that with tags in Evernote. Tag names exist in exactly one location in the tag tree. This is a big difference, and probably a drawback to using tags as a folder structure. While a file generally exists in only one folder in a file system, a note can "belong" to multiple tags. This a good thing, but it's also a difference with folders. If you drag a note to a different notebook, it moves the note to that notebook. If you drag a note to a different tag, it just adds the tag to the existing tags in the note, rather than replacing the existing tags with the new tag.

An obvious workaround is to edit your tables in one of the desktop Evernote clients (Windows or Mac); that will sync to your Android device. If it's critical for you to be able to do this on Android, well, it's not supported yet. Since Evernote typically doesn't give out release dates for upcoming features, nor indeed, which features are actually planned for implementation, it's up to you to determine how critical that feature really is for you vs. what features Evernote has that are useful to you.

This is already an existing request: You should head there and add your vote.

That works, too, if you have a relatively small number of notes that you want to pin. I almost always use snippet view and have a fair number of reminder notes, some dated and some not, and I like the sorting / filtering ability that carries over into reminder notes, so that's why I use that. Good suggestion.

This is not "feature creep", a fun term to toss around, but not all that meaningful (much like the overused "feature bloat"). This is not Unix-based "tie a bunch of separate command-line tools together to build synergy" development. It's development of a general purpose integrated, distributed note keeping application. Table support was extremely rudimentary at the start, and Evernote users have been asking for improved table support for a long time; there's obvious demand for that. Some people use tables a lot, and they're useful in note templates; I use them daily in my Evernote workflow for work, less so for my personal workflow. Your mileage obviously varies. And that's the problem / blessing with general purpose applications (think MS Word, for example): everyone uses the core 10-30%, but out beyond that, different people use different parts of the program a lot, and others, very little. If you don't add or improve some features, then you don't attract new users, because you don't solve their problems. But they haven't overdone it either (though there have been some missteps, e.g. WorkChat). In my view, Evernote has actually tended to maintain a pretty good focus on keeping actual extraneous features out of their application (I think that their strategy is generally to promote integration into other, more specialized, applications via their API; I can't speak to how well that's worked out. Aside from a brief flirtation with IFTTT and Zapier, I just use Evernote straight up). They haven't tried to become a serious todo list application, calendaring program, mind-mapper, Slack competitor, etc. etc.. It's still pretty minimal overall, a good general purpose note keeping program, and one that I use daily at work and at home, and has been for over 8 years in my case. Note that I am not suggesting that they ignore this, by the way. There's obviously a fair amount of dissatisfaction with the situation. But calling useful, user-requested improvements to Evernote "feature creep" is misunderstanding the term, and how software is reasonably developed. It's not all about you, or about me, for that matter. The core features remain; reasonable improvements in usability and functionality over time are expected.

OK, fair enough. Thanks.

Please don't paste the same post into multiple topics. It really avails nothing in the forums.