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Please give us old and good Evernote back
JohnLongney replied to persiomenezes's topic in Evernote General Discussions
@persiomenezes hello to you, and yes, Evernote would do well to keep the Legacy version going. I tried the new Win Evernote app a year ago and decided I am not ever changing to their electron app and I also know why Evernote opted for it. My reason for refusing an electron app for note-taking/document storage/web-clipping is the sluggish nature of such apps because they were never meant to substitute full-blown desktop applications with complete local database storage. Evernote either never had the cash and/or competent programmers to redevelop the MacOS and Win desktop apps nor the mobile Android/iOS apps to finally have identical functions and user interfaces which was overdue. So Evernote decided to go the cheap and nasty way to suit themselves. I had the nerve to install the latest Android app on my Samsung S10+ phone today, actually went without a hitch. Snag is the horrific battery drain, and worst of all, not all notes auto-resized. A short visit to the Evernote YouTube channel (123,000 subscribers) was worthwhile. Mostly very short clips, sub-standard quality (audio&video), no way to win business customers outside of the Evernote hard-core aficionado bubble. @PinkElephant FYI, the Legacy version is rock-solid, never crashes, with spot-on synchro and web-clipping. Whoever was responsible for that version at Evernote deserves praise. Preview of a web-clipped note is linked to a PDF editor, in my case, Acrobat Pro which makes it an absolute dolly to edit and tidy up. AFAIC that horse has umpteen miles left under its hooves. Should a silly lieutenant decide to shoot it, I'll pull the trigger as well. 😇 -
@Pink Elephant occasionally I too fell foul of the "no content but perfect preview " note syndrome (Windows 10, Google Chrome, Evernote Legacy Build). FYI - Evernote never bothered to address this issue which certainly is not cured by restarting the application. What didn't get stored in the proper Windows app format simply can't be retrieved!
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@DTLow I can only suppose that you had no inkling of what was to come. But don't you, on reflection regret brushing aside the umpteen issues users complained about over time? Unless Evernote literally scrap what they proudly call the new Evernote here and now there is no hope. Whoever decided on revamping Evernote based on Electron had no idea. You just got to look around what kind of known applications are Electron based to appreciate the situation. Speak up now and make them come to their senses whilst there is still a chance.
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@PinkElephant the thing is that Google keeps track and notifies users whenever login to one of their services comes from a new device. Windows machines have unique fingerprints and so do Android devices. Microsoft logs and acts in the same fashion (OneDrive and OneNote) as Google. That's what data security is all about. So regardless from where and when an account is accessed Evernote should also fully monitor access by device (hardware print) and instanteously follow up with mail notifying a registered paid user about the unusual access to the account. One can very well assume that Evernote accounts were not searched by a single person or a group looking for passwords that might not have any real use to them or which could backfire if used. Bots searching for Crypto Mining seems a very plausible thing Too bad for the individuals affected and of course, they have the job of changing passwords and! depending on what other confidential data they stored. notifying banks, business partners, etc. *not-nice-at-all* says JohnL
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Outlook 'Save to Evernote' button very slow
JohnLongney replied to jimer2's topic in Evernote Integrations
Let me just say one thing - you do not understand how different Evernote staff seemingly work. Developers, programmers, call them what you will, do not need users to tell them about changes in the OS etc because they themselves are in the know. It is a normal part of their job life and vital to the smooth functioning of their own products. If Evernote had left their ivory tower habits long ago things would be a lot better. Or do you really expect page preview to be the equivalent to pdf export as it still is in the Win version of Evernote? As for myself I could not care less as to whether Outlook clipping to Evernote is responsive or not because of the usually less than pleasing output results and why report to Evernote something they should be able to experience on their own? If Mr Ian Small does his job well the overbearing excusing and definding mentality will no longer be needed. BTW, real doctors are not nearly so dumb or helpless when it comes to determining physical causes of pain. Doctors who rely solely on the patient's self-diagnosis, apart from stuff like simple colds and suchlike have no place in modern medicine. -
Outlook 'Save to Evernote' button very slow
JohnLongney replied to jimer2's topic in Evernote Integrations
Me, too, can say that Outlook 365 (version 16.0.11231.20122), Win 10 1809 Build 17763.292) and Evernote currently 6.18 do not work well together. Beyond the lag the most worrying aspect to me is the rotten quality of notes through direct transfer from Outlook. @gazumped Outlook 365/2016 is part of the current Microsoft office suite, the standard office package used all over the globe. If Evernote have not got the means to pay for the annual subscription fee they should not even offer the add-on. Win 10 is the current OS and the only Win OS that Evernote needs to optimize for. Win 7 is in its final year of support and with hardware equipment well above Evernote and Win Office specs such lags have nothing to do with machines that are well maintained. Of course, third-party add-ons are at a disadvantage so to speak. The developers do need to keep upbreast with changes.. Nothing new in that trade. Why should users point to deficits that any developer could determine with minimum effort? A typical case, very recent was that one of the Evernote staff members was astounded to learn that an Evernote shortcut collided with a Win 10 shortcut. Whose fault? Mistakes do happen but the nerve to think Microsoft stole from Evernote is quite something. Not for one moment do I really believe that Outlook clipping carries much weight with Evernote. -
latest Microsoft support info re keyboard shortcuts (sorry, cannot override .DE localization) status as per 2018-12-31. No, Microsoft did not hijack what Evernote thought was theirs, simply because the OS takes priority. Always. Perhaps it would be a good idea if Evernote finally got to grips with Windows.
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Just checked in Win 10 Microsoft Store. Same price, usual daft store practice of buy before you see what you get. As such, not one single review.
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@DTLow I am experienced Windows PC user and I am beginning to feel sorry for you. If the internal engine of a note taking application is so poor that it cannot handle quality editing and output then it's time to replace it. Full stop. You can cite any old alternatives to Evernote's editor but unless you get the picture what users tend to expect by now you will be one of the coffin nails that seals Evernote's fate. What was novel and outstanding 10 plus years ago just is not good enough anymore. Evernote failed to meet European data protection legislation. As an experienced computer professional, you will no doubt be aware of the revenue Evernote is missing due to that. BTW, all I have seemingly failed to communicate to you is that your personal satisfaction with Evernote's Mac versions is simply not representative. The ratio of Mac to Win users (globally speaking) is approx. 1 :10. It is up to Mr. Ian Small to assess the situation and decide what service Evernote can offer next year and beyond. *I truly value the Evernote webclipper in conjunction with Chrome and Firefox on Windows. Evernote on Android is just pathetic because of inadequate stylus support.
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@DTLow Did you ever consider that your assessment of what users should expect from Evernote's editor left a ripe proportion of users with a feeling of frustration, if not to say profound annoyance? The "Remember Everything" service is no longer unique to Evernote. Search engines made advances by leaps and bounds. Of course, there is always the factor "you get what you pay for". However, 3 years ago there was a substanstial increase in subscription fees. Revamping the site and the logo instead of tackling core functions must have turned scores of premium users right livid. No doubt, Evernote went into a downward spiral and retiring Mr. O'Neill was inevitable. His setting the target at achieving positive cash figures for the financial year was deplorable. Considering staff cuts at all levels it just meant "sorry, cash is so low, we are working with a tight budget, we are not credit-worthy any more. If we cannot consolidate our financial status now, we are either up for sale or gone with the wind". I too share the genuine hope that Ian Small is the right man who can sort out priorities. The policy of leaving customers in the dark failed beyond repair. Personally I feel If Evernote cannot consolidate MacOS and WinOS versions pretty darn quick it will be mission failed.
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Indeed, a note taking app deserves a quality editor. Users kept begging for improvements and quite a number of users got fed up by the apparent indifference and left. The 220 million plus/minus eager subscribers were doing what? Leading you astrey in believing that they were all happy lovers, eager to part with hard cash? Evernote is so low down in ranking that nobody bothers to report the change in leadership.