Mike P

I'm afraid I can't add anything to the discussion of what happens to checkboxes created in legacy as it is a long time since I used legacy.

Going forward there are now two features, Check boxes and checklists.

Checklists are lists so can be dragged around into different orders, indented etc. There is also the option to strike through text when a checklist is completed. They can be added using the menu commands or the {open square braket}{close square bracket} shortcut as the beginning of a line. Hitting enter at the end of the line automatically creates the next checklist item.

Checkboxes are stand alone and can be added anywhere. You can use multiple checkboxes in a row. They are more like a character. However if you attempt to add a checkbox at the beginning of a line EN will automatically turn it into a checklist. The workaround is to add a character (eg a period) before the checkbox.

The filter/search for notes containing checklists/checkboxes is a bit hit and miss - search for a full discussion on the forum if that is important to you.

I tend to use checklists most as I like the crossing out and the ability to easily sort them into an order. I mainly use checkboxes if I want to use multiple checkboxes in a row.

I'm not really sure the / was intended to be used like that. If you slect text and hit any key the text is replaced by that key. This default Windows behaviour kicks in before the menu appears. If you are going to select some text and turn it into a code box I guess you will either have to use the insert menu or even better the keyboard shortcut (ctrl+shift+L)

12 hours ago, afelikian said:

After updating to Evernote version 10.82.2 on my Windows PC

Updated from what?  Another incarnation of V10 or legacy?

I agree with @gazumped that some more information would be useful but given that you are using the web version I would try deleting all the site data in your browser. In Chrome this is done by going to the Evernote web version and clicking the "View site information" icon to the left of the url  🢂 Cookies and site data 🢂 manage on device site data 🢂 and then delete the data using the trash can icons.

When you go to the site again and login, Evernote will have to download the "app" and data so it should solve any corruption issues.

I really love this new feature, accessible using the / command or from the insert menu. But why does it not resspect my preference (text) for the format of Evernote links set in settings?

Answering my own question, I expect it is because the "Title" view is dynamic - it changes if you change the title of the target note. But even if I set my preference to preview (which is dynamic) I get still title.

I guess I will just have to change it from "title" to "text" when I want the link to have other text on the same line (my main objection to the title view, together with the double click required to open the link)

One "interesting" feature is that the code block and inline text converts <= and >= into the correct mathematical symbol but leaves it untouched in the main body of the note. This is exactly the opposite of the behaviour I would expect.

My main use of EN code blocks is to store important snippets of code, and although it looks weird, it does always copy back to my IDE correctly.

Boolean search is now available for everybody so you can actually get the same result with 

created:20240325 NOT created:20240327

which is possibly easier for somebody not experienced in the advanced search syntax.

11 minutes ago, Paddy Paddy said:

I tried this, also did not work

Here's the search I tried. "No notes found"
When there clearly notes created in that range

created:20240325-created:20240327

It could be a typo but you need a space between the two terms

created:20240325 -created:20240327

You can also use the filter menu to filter using the same criteria

14 minutes ago, MCShults said:

It's perfectly logical that  one should be perfectly able to insert a template that is a table, or a checklist, or whatever, into an exsting note, and there is every reason why that would be useful.

We are in danger of arguing over semantics but I don't think this is technically a template. The Oxford English Dictionary defines a template as 

I agree that being able to store tables, checklists etc and then copy them into a note would be useful. Personally I have a reference note with some of those things in and I just copy and paste as necessary.

2 minutes ago, Ecstatica said:

I had seen that workaround already, maybe even posted by you, but for me it's just not good enough.

It's not supposed to be good enough! It's a another work around. It simply gives you another option until EN implement tags in templates or you decide to go elsewhere. As you have clearly described, going elsewhere also requires compromises - there is no perfect app.

Going back to the comma separated list of tags workaround.  If you put them in the first line of your template and have "start a note in the body" as your option, then the following key sequence (no mouse) adds them as tags (Windows shortcuts, mac may differ)

shift+End
Ctrl+X
F3
Ctrl+V
F2 (returns to title area)
Enter (goes to body of note)

I personally would automate this process using AutoHotKey.

12 minutes ago, Jeff Walters said:

Setting a template as the default Note template would be so simple and yet it has not been implemented, despite users requesting this for years.

A small step in the right direction would be allow any template (EN's or our own) to appear under suggested templates on a new note. I really don't know why EN has decided that only 9 of their almost 90 tempates and none of mine can be added. How do they know which are most important to me?

39 minutes ago, Razmataz said:

Yeah, @Mike P. But that's an instance of "let's make life as hard as possible for the users" strategy of the new EN.

We need now workarounds for just too many things.

And some "things" do not have even workarounds, they are plain not doable.

All I can do is point out other ways of doing things. EN templates have never had tags, so this particular issue is nothing to do with V10. I agree there are (for me) more workarounds in V10 than in legacy and I'm certainly making good use of AutoHotKey to give me extra functionaility some of which was available in legacy and some wasn't.

I'm actually much more concerned about the number of bugs than missing functionaility but that is a personal view based on my particular work flow.

15 hours ago, dack said:

On windows 10.80.3 and web interface I also see what Jason Moran is seeing and only see an option to "Add to Shortcuts". F2 does not do anything, and there are not three dot menu buttons next to the tag name. They seemed to have completely removed the interface for editing tags.

The web and desktop versions are different because you can't right click on the web as that gives you browser commands. There are also two places you can work with tags. This is what I am seeing (10.81.4 on windows, 10.81.6 on web).

Sidebar

Windows desktop

No three dots. Right click to access menu:

Web (Chrome browser)

No three dots so can't doing anything from here (other than click the tag to filter obviously)

Main tags pop out window

Windows desktop

Three dots when you hover over a tag or right clicking  give the same menu as above

Web (Chrome browser)

Three dots when you hover over a tag  gives the same menu as above

I would definitely like to be able to type a date (creation, reminder, task etc - they are all as bad) in any reasonable format and have EN parse it into a date. This is basic stuff which many apps have been able to do for years (no AI necessary!)

In the meantime, Sorting by date can be achieved by adding the date in iso 8601 format (YYYY-MM-DD) at the beginning of the title, but that won't help in searching for a date range. I might use a year tag, so that if I wanted to search for a range of a few years it wouldn't be too onerous to create the search. You could also have a month tag if required. Remember boolean search is now available for everybody so it's easier to create complex searches,  although the original search syntax works in most cases.

tag:1932 AND (tag:Feb OR tag:Mar OR tag:Apr)

You could also search for decades with 

tag:194*

However, to find all notes created in the 1940s 

intitle:194*

would also work if you went down the date in the title route. It's also possible that 

intitle:1932-02 OR intitle:1942-03 OR intitle:1942-04 

would also work (might ned a * after the date)

Not ideal, but its a possible way forward if you want to continue using EN and EN don't improve their date input system.

I agree with you. 

There are however plenty of ways of avoiding using templates at all. If you have a notebook of "template notes", which can contain tags, you can then just duplicate or copy  them. The only disadvantage is that you will probably want to manually change the creation date.

Another alternative is to export your template note as an enex file and choose not to save the creation date. I put that enex file on my desktop. Double clicking (Windows) the enex file then creates the note in my default folder with the current time as creation date. 

3 hours ago, MichalX said:

In new version I have to click to note menu, select information details, click the date and then list through the calendar - if change is in years it means tens of click by months for each document). No chance to simply input date.

It's not obvious but you can  click on the year (or month) to get a list. Not easy but easier than going back through each month

If you need to go back earlier than 2015, click on 2015 and then click on 2015 in the date field

4 minutes ago, Jon lowbank said:

But tags only appear sometimes underneath the search bar in the Add Filter section. 

True. If I  know the name of the tag and persevere with typing it does eventually come up in the "add filter" section of the main search.

I don't really see that the issue is a separate section for tags. A separate section containing only one tag is not going to be any help either!

9 minutes ago, Jon lowbank said:

would fix all these problems.

I don't think it would. We should be able to add a filter in whichever way we choose. That should then be automatically added to the search as well as to the filter. This is what is supposed to happen, as evidenced by the fact that if you do a forced reload the tag appears under the search bar as explained above.

11 hours ago, Tcellguy said:

A work around is to open the searched note in its own window and then the link seems to work (on macOS at least). For me the bug is limited to a search result or filtered note, but opening the note in its own window seems to fix it. 

If I understand what you are saying, then it doesn't work for me. As noted above the thing that does work is opening the target note in a new window by ctrl clicking the link.

The only time this works for me is if you also clear the search in the main window.

Another update. As noted above the trick to using search after filter is to ensure that the filter appears underneath the search bar. There is a trick that is working for me today (no saying it will work tomorrow!). If you do a force reload (ctrl+shift+R) the filter is added to the search and you can the search as normal. The only disdvantage of a reload is that it refreshes certain things you might not want refreshing. For me these are

• tag structure is collapsed
• Any filters on tasks are removed

1 hour ago, mendo3mendo said:

if you don't bring "sort by tag" back, i will be gone in a matter of days and will be cancelling my subscription.

Just other EN users here. If you want to communiucate directly to EN you will need to contact them directly. Also worth explaining why sorting by tags is important for your workflow and cannot be done in any other way.

17 hours ago, socks said:

Did this feature ever get created? I'd really like to be able to open my Tasks in a new window or in a sidebar separate from the notes view in the MacOS desktop app. I cannot keep the Tasks open while also navigating to other notebooks and taking notes. I'd like to have the Tasks docked on my desktop and visible to me all day. I love how Tasks consolidate all of my tasks across all my notebooks, but it's hidden unless I consciously decide to click on it to open it.

The nearest you can do at the moment is to have EN web open at the same time. Peel off the tab and shrink it horizontally so it just shows the tasks (and the collapsed side bar)

13 hours ago, jlazzthedon said:

Sometimes, not always, when I click an internal app link on Windows, it auto opens Chrome and tries to sign me in to web based Evernote.

If you edit the link, so that you can see the actual link, is it in internal link format (begins evernote:///) or a regualr weblink?

3 hours ago, Wilf Forrow said:

I haven't used templates, but could they help - eg store the header formats with a template?

It depends. I assume  EN expect you to update the header style. Then every time you use that header, within the note, you get the updated style. However when you turn this note into a template the header styles are reset back to default. The same happens if you copy or duplicate the note. 

So you would need to modify the header styles but not update them. They would then survive the templating process and if you wanted to you could then update the styles in the newly created note. Does this sound like madness? I agree, but my atempts to get EN to acknowledge that this is a problem have fallen on deaf ears.

53 minutes ago, ahl said:

Is it possible to filter list of notes by Tags?

Just one other thought. The filter in the tasks pop out searches in both the individual tasks and the containing note book names. So you could add your "tags" to the name of the notebook.

I really like the EN tasks philosophy of having tasks in the notes with all the accompanying info needed and having the ability to then pull out all those tasks into a more traditional task list. The ability to pull out the tasks from a subset of notes filtered by tag (or any other criteria) would be an awesome additional feature.

35 minutes ago, ahl said:

Is it possible to filter list of notes by Tags?

Not directly. You would need to use the filter menu (or the equivalent advanced search syntax) to find notes that contain tasks and contain a specific tag. You would then need to look in the individual notes for the tasks.

The equivalent search syntax for the search shown in the screen shot  is 

tag:$action contains:taskNotCompleted