Copying links into a note

[Razmataz 229]

Hello,

I am trying to work with V10, was on legacy up to now. I am finding a flabbergasting issue every day.

This time:

I am trying to copy a list of (http) links into a note. Each of them is on a separate line, separated by a CR and  LF. In legacy, I could just copy-paste them. The list appeared in the note, each on a new line and each as a link (clickable). That's how it should be.

In V10 if I CTRL-V paste them they appear on the same line. The two (if we have two) are separated by a space only and the whole thing is a single link (taken from the first entry).

Maddening.

If I CTRL-SHIFT-V paste them, then they are on separate lines but only the last one is a link (but a correct one). To make the others a proper link, I need to put the cursor at the end of each line and press return.

Have I gone mad or what do you do ?

Any help appreciated.

[PinkElephant 8,785]

Exotic use cases should be properly explained.

What sort of links ?

Which origin ?

Just to say „oh, they are links, and it used to work to copy them“ has no meaning. Only if it can be reproduced, we can understand what is meant.

Beside this there is no relevance in telling „XYZ doesn’t work any more“. V10 is no prolongation of legacy. It is a completely newly designed app. Copycating legacy was never intended.

If something that did work in legacy doesn’t work anymore, my only comment is „Shrug - then it doesn’t work“. There is no need it must, and it is nothing wrong if it doesn’t.

Only who got stuck with legacy will still be whinnying about milk spilled in transition.

[Dave-in-Decatur 4,006]

11 minutes ago, Razmataz said:

Hello,

I am trying to work with V10, was on legacy up to now. I am finding a flabbergasting issue every day.

This time:

I am trying to copy a list of (http) links into a note. Each of them is on a separate line, separated by a CR and  LF. In legacy, I could just copy-paste them. The list appeared in the note, each on a new line and each as a link (clickable). That's how it should be.

In V10 if I CTRL-V paste them they appear on the same line. The two (if we have two) are separated by a space only and the whole thing is a single link (taken from the first entry).

Maddening.

If I CTRL-SHIFT-V paste them, then they are on separate lines but only the last one is a link (but a correct one). To make the others a proper link, I need to put the curser at the end of each line and press return.

Have I gone mad or what do you do ?

Any help appreciated.

What's the source you're copying from? I just copied a list of 4 links from a Word document (consisting of 4 paragraphs, each one consisting of only a URL link). When I pasted (Ctrl+V) into Evernote, I got 4 paragraphs, each consisting of a formatted, working link. So it would help to know something about the formatting of the original.

[PinkElephant 8,785]

Exotic use case indeed …

Just copied 4 links to random websites to a Pages document. Then selected them, copy and paste into a note.

The result were 4 perfectly usable links in the note. Each one opened the designated website without any mistake.

It seems it is a crooked source that creates an issue here.

 

[Dave Green 261]

In the OP's case, they were NOT logically links but just plain text lines, while in the follow-ups, they were already links (declared by word or pages).  In one case, it is plain text cut & paste; in the other, it is Rich Text cut & paste.

I can duplicate the problem but have no suggestions for mitigating it.   It is not really a bug but a difference in approach.  There are times you would not want the conversion.

 

 

[AlbertR 704]

5 hours ago, Dave Green said:

I can duplicate the problem but have no suggestions for mitigating it.

Can be mitigated only by EN 😉. They should try to identify URL token after each word during paste operations. If found, it should be converted to a real <a href="token">token</a> construct.

But to calm down some others who are pitched with every naming of "Legacy": It did the job better - but not perfect. If the URL token is embedded within "()" or "<>" (as often seen in eMail addresses), the token is not recognized during paste operations 🙄. But it is OK to no more change Legacy - if EN10 will get the desired enhancement. 🙏

[PinkElephant 8,785]

If a plain text is inserted, it is in first place correct to treat it as text. We have had enough posts here claiming that inserted content was altered without users consent.

To make a link from a text, select and copy / clip it. Open the blue + menu, choose link. Insert the copy into the link field. Add any text into the text field. Confirm, done.

 

[AlbertR 704]

1 minute ago, PinkElephant said:

If a plain text is inserted, it is in first place correct to treat it as text. We have had enough posts here claiming that inserted content was altered without their consent.

OK - so let's make it an option 😉

[Razmataz 229]

12 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Exotic use cases should be properly explained.

What sort of links ?

Which origin ?

Just to say „oh, they are links, and it used to work to copy them“ has no meaning. Only if it can be reproduced, we can understand what is meant.

Beside this there is no relevance in telling „XYZ doesn’t work any more“. V10 is no prolongation of legacy. It is a completely newly designed app. Copycating legacy was never intended.

If something that did work in legacy doesn’t work anymore, my only comment is „Shrug - then it doesn’t work“. There is no need it must, and it is nothing wrong if it doesn’t.

Only who got stuck with legacy will still be whinnying about milk spilled in transition.

@PinkElephant this is a very unhelpful and rude post. You don't need to reply if cannot or don't want to help, you know.

Besides, not everything that doesn't work in V10 is an "exotic use case". But you'll never understand that,  I guess.

 

[Razmataz 229]

6 hours ago, Dave Green said:

In the OP's case, they were NOT logically links but just plain text lines, while in the follow-ups, they were already links (declared by word or pages).  In one case, it is plain text cut & paste; in the other, it is Rich Text cut & paste.

I can duplicate the problem but have no suggestions for mitigating it.   It is not really a bug but a difference in approach.  There are times you would not want the conversion.

 

 

Thank you Dave for making it more precise and clear. I should have made it more clear that I mean plain text (which just happen to be links in its syntax).

The problem seems to be that there was extra logic in the legacy version (because something seems to have thought about it) and it behaved as I (but certainly not @PinkElephant would expect it).

It seems that various editors and word processors treat this case differently.

In Word: (note the 3rd line)

Notepad++ and in Wordpad:

https://evernote.com/de-de

https://edition.cnn.com/

https://www.bbc.com/

Here in the edit box of the browser:

https://discussion.evernote.com/
https://evernote.com/de-de
https://edition.cnn.com/

In Evernote legacy (charge, @PinkElephant😞

https://evernote.com/de-de
https://edition.cnn.com/
https://www.bbc.com/

In Evernote V10:

https://evernote.com/de-de https://edition.cnn.com/ https://www.bbc.com/

 

If I may, I would rate the last one as the least helpful. This is just another case where what I want is doable in V10, it just needs a dozen or so more steps. I guess the behavior will never be changed, since @PinkElephant has declared it 'exotic' and EN development will not fix issues about which just a few % of users complain. 

 

Thank you for the discussion.

[Razmataz 229]

51 minutes ago, AlbertR said:

But to calm down some others who are pitched with every naming of "Legacy": It did the job better - but not perfect. If the URL token is embedded within "()" or "<>" (as often seen in eMail addresses), the token is not recognized during paste operations 🙄. But it is OK to no more change Legacy - if EN10 will get the desired enhancement. 🙏

Totally, Albert, thank you.

[Razmataz 229]

1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

If a plain text is inserted, it is in first place correct to treat it as text. We have had enough posts here claiming that inserted content was altered without users consent.

 

Well, it is *not* being treated as text. If it was, it would be 3 separate plain text lines without embedded links.

But it is not. It is a single line with an incorrect embedded link.

https://evernote.com/de-de https://edition.cnn.com/ https://www.bbc.com/

[ChristianJB 105]

54 minutes ago, Razmataz said:

Well, it is *not* being treated as text. If it was, it would be 3 separate plain text lines without embedded links.

If I copy this list from Notepad++, I get the following result in EN.

[Razmataz 229]

Christian,

that's the same for me. However, if you press ENTER after having copied, the last line will turn into a live link.

That one could call OK, it is pasted as text and should stay text. Upon pressing ENTER the last line is turned into a hotlink, because the syntax is recognized. I understand that. Its not logical to me (maybe to others), I think it is better if all 3 lines are turned into hotlinks (as in legacy or in Notepad++ or in Wordpad or in the browser in this edit box that I am writing into right now). Apparently some find this behavior natural (including me).

Paste the three lines from EN back to notepad++ to see what I mean. They become hotlinks. All of them.

Anyway, I was asking what the logic is for 

https://evernote.com/de-de https://edition.cnn.com/ https://www.bbc.com/

in EN with the wrong link embedded?

A half-a-workaround seem to be to paste with CTRL-SHIFT-V, then the lines are pasted as pure text. Upon pressing ENTER the last line (and only that) is turned into a hotlink. Some say here that I could just do that for the two other lines, too, it "just takes a few seconds".

Well, it doesn't if you have 12 of them or so (because you want to record the visited websites as result of your (re)search).

Another productivity kill, I submit. It is certainly for me. And it is in a long line of similar "features" in V10.

I'll report it to EN/BS, but have no hope that it will ever get fixed. It will fall under the 1% rule.

Thank you.

 

[ChristianJB 105]

11 minutes ago, Razmataz said:

Anyway, I was asking what the logic is for 

https://evernote.com/de-de https://edition.cnn.com/ https://www.bbc.com/

in EN with the wrong link embedded?

How do you get this wrong embedded link, I can't reproduce it?

[Dave-in-Decatur 4,006]

I appreciate the clarification about the source being plain text. I just took a list of URLs from Windows 10 Notepad, which I think is pretty much plain text, with each URL on its own line. I copied that and pasted it into Evernote 10. The lines were properly separated, which seemed not to happen for @Razmataz, but as he and others noted, the text was not converted to proper links without typing either a line break or a space after it. The lack of line breaks is a puzzle.

[Razmataz 229]

Update: since I need this feature or behavior or whatever, I hunted and found a short Autohotkey script on the net and modified it to the hotkey 

CAPSLOCK and V (akin to CNTRL-V)

pressed at the same time. I use the CAPSLOCK key for Autohotkey as the prefix key extensively. You can use your choice.

 

#SingleInstance Force
CapsLock & v::
Loop, parse, clipboard, `n, `r
{
    SendRaw, %A_LoopField%
    Send {Enter}
}
return

It reads the clipboard, parses it into lines, prints these in sequence but also adds a ENTER after each line. That suffices for EN V10 to do what the legacehas always done just fine: prints the links line-by-line and turns them into hotlink.

Cumbersome, but it does what I need.

 Send {Enter 2}

Sends ENTER twice (2x) so that the links are neatly separated by an empty line, thus are easier to click on.