Grant837

I believe this post, with many more votes, is the same, or rather, the key collection place... The description is not very clear, but the post under it seem to be the same topic?

1 hour ago, RobertJLee said:

Recently? Hows 10.59 performing for you?

Nothing more than minor glitches, which are not show stopper.  Frequent screen update when enter tasks, and occasional high cpu usage (problems been around on and off for ages).  I have 3k notes, and they open quickly. Once lost text, but that was before 10.59, and I was partially to blame (syncing while editing my self in two places)

Adding to the many replies discussing Obsidian:  I used it intensively for 3 months and returned to Evernote. (I earlier tried Notion for 3 months too)

Obsidian is more of a text based concept management tool.  It also requires a certain amount of 'nerdiness' since much of the functionality you might be used to in something like Evernote requires plugins, that you need to often configure just right to work.  Also, as pointed out, to sync most quickly and reliably, you need the paid Sync subscription, which is around 100dollars/Euros as I recollect.  Using any other free sync mention will lead to data loss if you go and use another device too quickly. 

Managing a calendar can be tedious, although you can  sync it with, for example, google calendar.  Using the plugin and keeping the calendar local, means you can not, for example, have an end to repeating events, nor can you change just one event in a repeating series.   And I had my entire calendar wiped out once... 

Task management standard is very basic.  A plugin offers more functionality, but overall not more than Evernote.   Organizing and finding back you tasks, requires either a rigid self-imposed listing of tasks in the right documents that you know how to find, or a plugin, to search and list tasks from anywhere. 

The ability to clip web and store it is very limited, or again, nerdy.

So, if you like spending your time playing with all the ways to can tune Obsidian to your way of working, and maintaining that, then Obsidian can be fun and useful.  I found it fun, but eventually, I had to get some real work done...

I never see these. Are you a paying customer, or using the free version?   What devices?

I could expect it might happen if you are using the free version... they are a business and prefer that users pay. 😉   But then they should not alienate you either.. It's a fine balance at times...

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

config.json

@Mike P where is this file?  I only can find the boron file...

On 7/25/2023 at 8:05 PM, janndk said:

Evernote has simply gotten too buggy

FYI, I used (not just tested) Obsidian for 3 months.  The core app is great, but is limited to functionality that supports entering your own text notes.  The moment you want to clip web information, really leverage PDF, or manage project tasks, you have to start adding in several plugins.   Individually, htese work, but often miss the features you are used to in dedicated apps.  And integration with each other is limited, and where it should work, you will run into bugs. Syncing across devices, especially when using plugins (eg reminders) does not work smoothly. 

You will not likely ever loose data - its stored locally as Markup text files (except tasks), but you will often lose your ability to access your data in the way you spent so many hours building...

(Notion is also cool, but be aware, your data is not stored locally, so the moment you are offline, you cannot use Notion in any serious way anymore)

Yes, this is a problem on Windows - its hard to understand when and why it happens.  Since upgrading to 10.58 its happens less often, but has not gone away... for me, it will even continue (and Evernote processes keep running) after I close the windows.  I have to exit via the menu to be able to really close all Evernote processes..  Sigh.

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

When your time comes there is nothing you can do about it!

Humm, I use Windows, and always see a dialog box, which I click on to update, but never paid attention to see if it was an option, or just a notification that it was going to (or did?) happen.  Its a bit scary then if I cannot block it, and if messes up search and tags... I have invested a lot of time on getting more use out of Tags...

(This kind of problem from Evernote has me much more worried than the price increase... )

I will stick with V10.58 after reading this post...

Interesting to note that when I check for updates, my V10.58 is stated as the latest version... so, maybe they know of the issue and stopped the rollout... or I just a way down on the update notice list....:-(  

@Mike P Interesting that it works somewhere, alas, the 'scroll method'  you always have to start at the top - if you try to cheat and click on one further down the list, then the pop-out list goes away and you can no longer interact with the tags. 

All: I will mention this to support as a minor bug.  I am renaming a number of tags, and a shortcut would have helped. 

Cheers

Hi,

Can anyone explain how to rename tags using the F2 key?

When I right-click on a tag, I see the option to rename the tag, and the keyboard shortcut 'F2' is next to it.  But when I press F2, instead, Evernote highlights the title of the first file in the list of files that has that tag, instead of opening up the Tag edit dialog box.

Thanks

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

I have found searching for special characters and emojis generally inconsistent across EN. I have examples for tags where different methods of search either ignore them or use them! The weirdest of all is the use of emojis in the title. See 

Wow, emojis to the rescue!  At least on the Windows platform, they are seen as text, so you can search on them in both Task Search and Notes Search. 

I know it requires some extra keystrokes to insert them, so it's not perfect, but it's good enough for my situation I hope.  Maybe AutoHotKey will help too...

If you combine the emoji with some text, you can search for the exact combination by putting the combination in Quotes when using Notes Search.  It's not necessary to use quotes when searching in Tasks Search.

You can also search for Notes containing Tasks with the emoji-text combination in the Notes Search: contains:taskNotCompleted AND 🪵Wood

Since I have a system from Obsidian where I used emojis to pre-fix all my tags (I have maybe 20 categories of task for Notes, of which I use 4 with Tasks, this may resolve my desire to find Tasks based on Tags instead of the Note they are contained it.  So I can now add single misc. tasks to my general Daily Note, give it some tags, and I can always find it back when I am working in some particular (GTD type) context or misc. topic. 

@Mike PWell, I'll be d*mned!  Evernote will not search on special characters when searching Notes, but does find them when searching Tasks! 

I would have never dreamed they would have an inconsistency like this..... 😉

Thank you very much for this, really!

On 5/7/2023 at 6:23 PM, Mike P said:

I use $ as a prefix for all my "task tags" which works well. I also use emojis for things like priority

I have hotstrings for red, amber and green circles in AutoHotKey to make it even easier. 

..r = 🔴

..a = 🟠

..g = 🟢

Hi @Mike P  I am intrigued by your Task tagging, as I have not been able to solve this issue for my way of working.   I would like to give my tasks an individual context, that is not note-dependent.  Then I would like to be able to search based on these 'context markers'.  The problem is you can not put Evernote Tags in a Task, and you cannot search for special characters (or emojis) as far as I know. 

You mention you use $ as a prefix for your Task Tags, plus you use emojis.  Are you able to search on these somehow?   Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

On 6/23/2023 at 10:45 PM, s2sailor said:

one task each in its own note

Yes, that is a workaround I might consider..

But, it just registered on me that, I can also enter a 'manual'  tag (eg it will not turn up in a 'tag:'  search in the description. I prefext different types of tags with a symbol (eg :personname, or @actiontype) so the main description is still visually separate.  This two is a work around, but it will do for now..

(I will go back to Notion in a flash if they ever implement local/offline storage - it does everything I want, but no way am I going to trust all my information to one cloud storage!)

Since you think we are arguing, I am not sure how to respond... maybe later...

Next to the great addition of Backlinks, I think an important part of the solution to the question is creating a Table of Contents from all the notes selected.  This was in the legacy version a simple select, right-click, create ToC option (which you have to maintain thereafter), but in V10 you need to select them, then right-click and use the ' create app links to selected notes'  and then paste all those links where you want them, usually in a separate ToC document.

Here is a good video on this topic: 

On 6/14/2023 at 11:59 PM, PinkElephant said:

Why do we need yet another thread about this topic. There is a nice and long one already, probably among the 10 most voted feature request in the forum.

 

Because this is another unique aspect of the same problem, and very much worth its own focus. 

What you link to is about an outlining feature, which is also a very very useful feature, but it's not about being able to uniquely link to each item in the outline (let alone be able to search based on such an outline).

This is a functionality that is available in other competing products, like Obsidian, and is very popular and used by those users, and would add great value and customer appreciation for the Evernote product.

2 hours ago, s2sailor said:

You can link to and add tags to the notes that are containers for the tasks.

Yes, but not to the Task...  for example, if I am using a daily notes note, to collect tasks as they come to mind (or  a similar approach to GTD), then that note  is a random collection of things as they come in (outside of structured meetings, or other focus work time) and the note title is irrelevant, and adding tags to the note for each random new task dilutes the effectiveness of the approach you suggest (and dilutes the effective use of tags in collecting relevant information)

3 hours ago, Mike P said:

I'm not sure exactly what that means, could you explain further. You can do the following searches (and there are equivalent options in the filter menu):

contains:task
contains:taskCompleted
contains:taskNotCompleted

 

Yes, these exist, but they are general ' buckets' , and there is no way to narrow down the selection, in particular, using text in the Task description, or DueDate,  etc.

This issue highlights two of the real functional short-comings of Evernote, that I hope the new owners will recognize:

1. The poor integration of Tasks into the total information database and functionality (eg there is no Task modifier in the overall search, You can not link to or from tasks, you can not add tags to tasks, etc.

2. You can not search and identify and show (eg via a sidebar list you can click on to take you to the content) the location of any results from content modifiers and note formatting (eg: todo's, Tasks, dates, contains items, header titles, table content, etc).

For any who are interested, I have solved this by leveraging the link to google calendar.

I create an all-day event called Daily Note, and have it repeated every day.  Then on the Evernote Homepage, I have the calendar widget, and I can click on the ' Add Note'  to create a note for that day.

PS: The only feature I miss really, is the ability to have that note for that event created in a notebook of my choice.  Right now I have to move it myself.  Minor issue, but that kind of automation is what we need from AI! (well, it was actually always possible to create this kind of feature, so its more just a missing functionality that I am hoping the excitement around AI will offer a solution for 😉

I would like to create a note each day, where I can create my own list of what I want to do that day.  Not everything will be a proper Task, some will be check boxes, some lines will just be text.  Key for me is I can put it in the order I want, and even move things around as my day progresses. 

Thus, I am looking for a way to choose and display proper Tasks, which are kept in another note, in this daily note.

Is anything like this possible?

Failing that, how do others create a simple, flexible single view of what they really should be doing 'Today', with a place to also make notes, etc.   Right now, the Homepage is too chaotic (not easy on my eyes - or mind) to give me the feeling of focus that I need.

Thanks!

On 6/17/2023 at 12:01 PM, Grant837 said:

I would like to find notes with tags that contain a certain set of characters but do not necessary start with these characters (or necessarily end with these characters). 

Is this possible?  Right now I can only find a way to search for tags starting with a set of characters.

Thanks!

The best solution I found what to use Ctrl-Alt-5, which opens the Tag search box, and there you can ' type ahead search '  on part of a tag, even if in the middle.  You cannot, of course, combine that with other search criteria.

This is a workable solution for me for now.

Thanks all for your thoughts on this topic.

On 6/17/2023 at 1:19 PM, Mike P said:

As far as I can see, in common with general text searches, wild card characters can only be used at the end of the tag name.

You are right!  I was focused on the list of 'suggested'  files, etc that comes up as you type... which will show results that use the middle of words...

I wonder why that is possible, but then when you say ' search '  that that list is not included in the results... odd...