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Hi.  No settings that I'm aware of - a first-time share should generate an email,  even if it is to a non-evernote address;  the recipient would be able to add it to his existing account if that were the case.  The only thing I can think of is that a 'wild' spam filter ate your email before it could be received.  If your son has another email address you could try again...

Hi.  Not yet - this is a job you need to do on a desktop...

Hmmn.  Have you started the chat with him via an email address that is not the same as the one on which his Evernote account is based?

There is a USB version which seems good,  and it integrates well with DropBox and existing folders and files - quite a few interesting features;  but if you want something bespoke,  and you have the time and the talent,  this (apparently) include both Android and Windows implementations...  http://www.lynda.com/course-tutorials/Building-Note-Taking-App-Android/377485-2.html

Hi.  It's already possible to encrypt and decrypt PDF files with a (usually paid-for) PDF editor,  annotate the content and re-encrypt back into an Evernote attachment.  Don't see the incentive for Evernote to allocate resources into reinventing that particular wheel.

If you sort the notes by created date,  things should -literally- fall into place... 

No,  but you're one swipe and a tap away...

@mcheng - good call on removing the original email,  but you may want to look at the forum settings too - along with a dozen or so others I 'follow' this forum and receive emails with the full text of original posts,  so have all of the email addresses available.  I'll (obviously) delete it,  but maybe a warning to new posters about including personal details would be a good idea?

I agree to a point - I think it's better to have a specific plan and stick to it rather than being jerked this way and that with calls from users to 'edit images' 'embed videos' 'calendars' 'to-do lists',  but sometimes,  you do wonder where Evernote gets its inspirations from...

Evernote very rarely comment on feature requests - possibly on the basis that if they spend their time justifying where things sit in their priority list,  or explaining why they don't have something there yet,  they'll have even less time to actually fix and develop things. 

I'm not annoyed,  just amused that anyone expected a free ride with no advertising.

Hello dear Notes lovers,

 

  I am sorry but I will never pay for a note taking program, ever, this model is broken in my opinion

I have been using Evernote for years but now I have a feeling that I will get harassed for money via annoying publicity since last patch, it slows me down and really annoys me that they play with that argument to try and get money from me for simple text hosting.

 

I will be looking for open source private cloud options, or change my way of taking notes via simple scripts.

Best regards,

"Simple text hosting" still costs money,  and since you're not even prepared to use a free tool if it tries to encourage you to pay for more features,  I wonder how many options you'll find.

Sorry I missed that you stated Win 7 in your first post.  If your colleague has permissions set to edit notes in that notebook,  ask her to add something -a word or two-  to a note in that notebook and then sync.  See whether you can see her comment,  and if that triggers the missing note to appear.  It's strange that only one person has one missing note...

Not the same OS I know but..

Hi! New forum user here, been using Evernote since last July.

 

On a PC and online, Windows 7.

 

Not sure if this thread is still being updated, but I thought I'd try it rather than starting another one.

 

The problem I'm having is similar to the ones being described here.

 

I update a shared note through my PC, I sync it and everything looks fine. When I return to the note the following day, all my updates have disappeared! This is happening very regularly and is causing me big probs with the Boss.

 

I've tried updating and synching online instead, but still the information has disappeared the following day. It doesn't seem to be happening to my colleagues.

 

Anything I can try so I can get this fixed?

 

Many thanks!

Hi.  You say this is a shared note - how many people have access to it,  and are they all using their own copy of on different workstations?  How many copies of the note do you have open when you're editing?  Just the web,  or just the PC?  Or both at the same time?

Basically this sounds like a sync error - your updated version of the note is getting overwritten by another -older- copy of the same note after you save your changes.  If you're a premium subscriber you may even find your updates in the note history,  or in a 'conflicting changes' notebook you didn't know you had.

Are you using a Windows system,  or Mac?

Maybe an app developer is reading our conversation, and is planning to offer a combination of CarbonFin and EverNote in one new app.

The outline approach might be a cognitive bias to those who work with tags daily, but outline is what has been used in table-of-contents for millennia. It's worth a chance as an opinion for the development of hierarchical order. A new productivity app is badly needed in data organization. C'mon Google are you listening?

Hmmn.  Have you used Gmail recently?

Ouch!  Sorry about that - can't help you with the problem,  but you should still be able to see your notes if you log in here in a desktop browser - https://www.evernote.com/Login.action

-Might keep you going while you sort out the other software...  good luck!

Hi.  You have a user name and password to access Evernote,  and if someone else might look at your laptop you should lock and protect it with the OS password whenever you step away from the keyboard.  Either logging out or locking the PC will protect your data as far as possible,  though the database stored on your local hard drive is not encrypted and is stored in a standard format so even without logging into Evernote someone with moderate tech knowledge could browse your note content.  It's possible to use third-party software to encrypt part of your hard disk such as Saferoom - http://www.getsaferoom.com/ - which is Evernote-compatible - to avoid that.

Hi - Evernote haven't (AFAIK) published anything in detail on how or why they chose stacks,  notebooks,  titles and tags over a hierarchical system.  They chose the current setup,  and show no great inclination to change,  so the choices are: work within the limits of what we have,  or use a different package.  Google searches will get you lots of information,  both inside and outside the forums,  on how to use the features you have.

Random comments now on your various other points...

There isn't an 'anti-hierarchy' stance at Evernote, they just appear not to wish to change something which seems to work for most folks.  They're a business after all - why undertake a potentially expensive re-tooling exercise if you don't have to?

Archived items (if you want to keep a record but don't want search confusion) can be exported to files or additional free accounts.

New projects may require their own notebook for a while,  as new notes are added.  As the project develops those notes may be tagged "marketing" or "technical" or some such.  To recategorise a group of notes in that notebook,  just select the notes and add to or change the tagging.  No deletion required.

In my account with nearly 20,000 notes,  most of them are in one notebook and many are untagged,  because I can find them with a search.  I'd suggest you try Evernote for a while,  to get used to the practicalities of working in this way.  To add new material,  just clip.  To categorise,  add titles and tags.  If you really have to (new projects / shared notes / Local Notebooks),  add a new notebook..

And on your last point,  see above - Evernote 'could' do lots of things to make their product more attractive.  But how much would it cost,  how many extra paying users might that generate,  and over what sort of period might they expect payback and profit?

Hi. 

Since the first item you quote by Engberg was dated 2008,  it appears that Evernote is in no hurry to adopt a hierarchical structure.  There has been a lot of discussion about this in the past,  but the situation boils down to:  Evernote get to choose what they do.  They have chosen (so far) not to do this.  Whether that's for practical,  technical or idealogical reasons,  no-one knows.  Unless they already have been working on a change though,  even if they decide to embrace this new philosophy,  it won't happen soon.

In the meantime,  it is perfectly feasible to run a large note system without either notebooks or (many) tags.  If that doesn't suit your use case,  there are other note-taking apps out there that may do better.

For some purposes I agree a folder structure is a good way to filter information.  For others I prefer outlines or mindmaps.  Alongside Evernote,  which is still my main information store,  I use Treepad for folders,  Workflowy for outlines and MIndjet / Freeplane for mindmaps. 

Hi.  No action to widen access to other document editors that I'm aware of,  though Skitch and Evernote have both had a lot of updates - you may find the internal annotate process is enough if you get the latest version of the app...

Not sure I'd agree that it's that easy to get 10 people to sign up for a free year,  but the free level looks OK for quick lists..

Evernote can only go so far to protect you - your OS will help too;  Ctrl+Z or Cmd+Z should undo a careless keystroke,  if you have a backup for your database you could retrieve that,  or if you're a premium user you'll have Note History.  As here,  if you lost a web page you can - usually- just go back and re-clip it using the URL in the note.  Editing a page though always carries the risk that you'll make unwanted changes by mistake.  If your data is important,  you could always use a copy of the original note...

This is a much-requested feature,  and it seems reasonable that with everyone having more than one email address these days - at least work plus personal - that an account should allow for additional addresses.  For various reasons to do with multiple website management I have several addresses,  though I don't change my account address around.  I do have secondary Evernote accounts in a couple of cases,  and have shared notebooks from there to my main account when necessary.

Evernote may or may not have this on the route-map - they're not (as usual) saying - but meantime your options are:

• change the account address (pretty easy via your online My Account page).
• get a fresh account with the new address and share notebooks with your main account.
• forward emails received by the new address to your main account address (obviously not going to work for shared-in notes).
• forward some or all emails received by the new address directly to Evernote via the @evernote account address

We might need to know more about what process is imagined here.  Surely a 'classic' link points directly to the disk space that a note occupies.  Which doesn't exist on a mobile device. 

If you copy a link to a note on a mobile device,  you (presumably) get one of the new links which goes to the server copy of the note,  and will download that copy to the device.  If the note has been specified as 'offline searchable',  maybe you get the local link too - I don't do that sort of linking,  and haven't checked. 

It is possible to copy note link / add shortcut to home page from an (Android) mobile,  so presumably also from iOS.  Is there a special reason that needs to be a 'classic' link?