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  1. This is *****. I've been an Evernote user since it first came out, and I've been forwarding emails to Evernote for as long. Now that it's a paid feature, I've lost the ability to do a simple task that I've been doing for years. Thanks, Evernote. Way to treat your valued, long-time users. If you think I'm going to start paying to use a feature I've used for free for years, you're ignorant. My typical routine has been to buy Evernote premium for 2-3 months a year to upload some of my larger files, but I won't be subscribing to it permanently to get my workflow functionality back. I'll just find a different product and adjust my workflow to fit it.

     

    Can anyone recommend a good Evernote alternative that syncs with Mac/Web/iPhone? Preferably a company that cares about its users.

     

     

    Oh good grief.  This topic has already been discussed to death. It's doubtful you'll find sympathy from anyone here except for other users who don't want to pay $3.08 $2.08 per month for a feature they consider "valuable".

     

     

    People have become so accustomed to free software that they have developed a sense of entitlement. Why should they have to PAY for software???

    Developers do not often write software wholly because they are being philanthropic and feel inclined to gift the world with a wonderful, useful, FREE piece of software. They do it because they want an income in order to pay their rent, buy groceries and shoes for their children. Most software that has much value has some sort of limitation, unless you pay. Sometimes it's a trial version. Sometimes it's a version with ads. And sometimes, it's a free version with limited features.

    I do understand it's upsetting when a feature you have been using in one version requires you to upgrade to another version. But it happens ALL THE TIME. I have used ACDSee Photo Manager software for about 15 years. And every year or two, I have to pay for an upgrade b/c there are new features or else b/c the old version doesn't work under my new OS or...whatever.

    But it is the developer's right to revoke some free features. In fact, any good dev has an obligation to their paying customers (and employees) to do their best to stay profitable. Why? Because the paying users have found value in the software and most times will want to continue to use it and have invested their $$$ in the app by supporting it financially. And of course, the employees want to have a regular income. Most of us do not want to devote a lot of time & energy into our jobs and then not get paid.

    If the complainers will please note, no one (i repeat NO ONE) has stated you cannot or should not voice your opinion that you are upset by this decision. However, for those of you who show a sense of entitlement (draconian??? seriously???), I would simply say, if it's not worth a years worth of a paid version of Evernote to you, then it would appear that feature really wasn't that useful to you. If money is tight, there are creative ways such as asking family & friends to gift you with a subscription for birthdays, anniversaries or Christmas. Or referring friends in order to get points.

     

    I don't get why notes would then be abandoned. As in, one just gives up. There are many ways to get the content of emails into Evernote, not to mention copy-paste. I guess it's purely a case of semantics here. Was just curious.

    And yes, the thread title is laced with drama. It would seem to me if the lack of this one feature on the free version of Evernote is dramatic enough to cause one to abandon Evernote, then one would instead be willing to pay for it. But I'm not into drama... So it boils down to this...if it's worth a few bucks to you, then fine. If not, that's fine too. Good luck with finding an app that better suits your needs.

     

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  2. @ab1kenobee, thank you for the congratulations!

    Yes, I've become jaded wrt Evernote and realize this is just a part of life. But I'm not a negative person in general. I've been coding for the past 40 years. I've been very "computer bound" in the past 20 years due to work and doing more things on a computer (like most of us) such as bill paying, meal planning, grocery lists, photos, social networking, budgeting, etc. But I'm looking forward to being less computer bound, now that I am retired. And the time required to migrate back to Evernote (should I ever want to) is not something I envision wanting to do because I'm enjoying life beyond sitting in front of a computer. ;-)

    Thanks again!

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  3. I can't believe this has NOT already been posted in this thread!!!

    That may be an indication of how apathetic many of us have become wrt to Evernote.

    Good chance Chris is the kind of lead to breathe new life into Evernote... this could be exciting... we'll just have to wait and see!

    I'm not going to get my hopes up. I do keep haunting the board to kind of monitor what's going on at EN. I suspect for me, it is too little, too late. Because if they were to address my main point of contention (scalability on all platforms), it would take a major overhaul and at least a year or more. Since I am newly retired, I will be spending less time on my computer and less willing to migrate back to Evernote. When I started my first migration to Evernote (June 2009), I really thought that would be the last time I'd have to do this (after years migrating from various PDAs and their associated desktop apps to another).

    Onenote is not nearly as useful to me as Evernote (before EN became totally useless due to the scalability issue). But...Onenote WORKS and 60-70% useful is better than zero percent useful.

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  4. I am writing multiple ebooks and have a notebook for each one -- the problem is when I create a new note by dropping photos from iPhoto into evernote they first go into the general "notes" section.  Then when I move them into the appropriate notebook it seems to be moving a COPY of the note into the appropriate notebook but still leaving a copy in the "notes" section.  This is getting maddening because I can't tell which ones have been moved into their appropriate notebook and which ones haven't! Any ideas out there?

    Please read post #6.


  5. It used to be that Evernote had a little icon next to shared notebooks. Indeed, that is still shown in the Knowledge Base. So, why have I not got this. Is it a setting I have missed or is it lost in the complex nightmare that Evernote has become?

    For some reason unknown to me, about a year or two ago, Evernote removed the visual (and quite helpful) indicators that allowed users to quickly & easily identify shared, local & sync'd notebooks. Since I no longer use Evernote (for reasons I've already discussed often on this board), I don't know if this useful feature has been reintroduced. WRT the documentation being out of date, that's been an ongoing issue since day one.

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  6. Can someone please explain to me why even if I am logged into the Evernote website, that it brings me to the *website front page* rather than my own page? This is so. incredibly. annoying. Why put barriers in front of customers? So frustrating.

    Not sure what you mean by " website front page" or your "own" page. Like Gaz, when I log in, I'm taken to a list of my notebooks (left panel) and my notes.


  7. I need to make strict choices on what I can and can't afford.

    Most all of us (including me) do. And as I've said before, I understand it's disappointing to users when something free is taken away. But the overriding sense of entitlement that many free users have, that they've somehow been duped or screwed over because this feature is no longer free is not only astounding, but truly sad.

    As I also said I would be quite happy to pay a modest "one-off" fee for the functionalities I want in Evernote

    That's a bit like me offering someone $10,000 for their brand new Jaguar. Apparently Evernote thinks a one time fee is not enough to sustain ongoing changes to keep up with continually new technology & new devices as well as maintaining the accumulated (and limited only by what one is willing to pay for monthly upload) storage used by their users. Evernote's (the service) business model has *never* been a one time fee for software. It has *always* been a monthly/yearly subscription fee for additional services/features and all the software is free.

    I have never complained when a company brings out new features on free software

    Of course not.
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  8. So how do you handle this than? Let's say you have an email that states something like this....

    Thank you for your time today. (blah blah blah)....

    As discussed, can you please send me over that manual on how your product works.

    Much thanks,

    Customer

    So now you want to put this inside of Evernote. That's no problem with the forward email feature. It's now a note so you can easily add a todo to it, again, sweetness. Finally it comes time to complete the task and all you need to do is reply to the email with the document attached. How do you do this from Evernote?

    This is kind of a lame example because it would have just been easier to have replied right away with the attachment and called it a day :) Still, it was the best I could think of fast and kind of gets the point across. I'm a fan of Evernote and a paid customer so please don't think this thread is about me complaining. I'm trying to learn best practices here and get MORE into Evernote. It's an excellent product, but this one area has always gotten me stuck and I was just hoping for some advice :)

    As I said, the only way to share Evernotes is to share the note (or notebook) or email the note, since Evernote is not an email client. Sometimes the simplest answer is the best way...I would simply use your email client, reply, add attachment, send.


  9. I really want to push all my email into Evernote. Right now the thing stopping me the most is being able to reply to an email that is stored inside of Evernote. So if I push an email into Evernote and my goal is to get back to the person via email, how do I do that inside of Evernote? Also, if the email (now note) needs to be sent to someone else is the only option to share that note with a person? I really just need to forward the email off to someone. I'm sure this is addressed some way and I'm just not getting it. Could I please get some advice on this? Thank you very much!

    What you're wanting is for Evernote to be a mail client (IE - reply) & AFAIK, this is not possible. You can share or email Evernotes to others.


  10. Come on EN, grow a pair and just tell users how it actually is: "Sorry, but the email facility is now going to cost a few dollars." 

    That's exactly what they did. Maybe the complainers should grow a pair and be willing to pay a few bucks for a service they use (apparently) enough to complain about when it's no longer free.

    It's funny how the complainers keep coming up with various reasons why they don't want to pay. The bottom line is that those who truly value the service will fork over a few bucks. And those who want something for nothing will continue to find reasons why they don't want to pay for it...all the time thinking their threat to leave Evernote will cause EN to shudder at the loss of non-paying customers... Well good luck with that.

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  11. There's a whole lot of "I would pay for Evernote but..." posts by those protesting the move of this feature from free. Which sounds an awful lot like "I want what I want but don't want to pay a few bucks for it."

    As Nancy (Evernote employee) posted above, there have been many increases to the free service as well as features moved from paid to free.

    The complainers always seem to have a reason why they think they shouldn't have to pay for something that they use often.

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  12. So I was forced to switch to Evernote after Springpad went under and since I only use notes to inventorize products (and Evernote DOESN'T have the scan feature I very much liked from Springpad) I use the basic/free package.

    I did search prior to posting and didn't find anything recent concerning this topic.

    I found this topic but the second poster claims it isn't true: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/62133-edit-title-missing-in-clipper-means-double-the-data-use-per-note/

    Well...it is true....and I took screenshots to prove it.

    Every time I edit an old note be it the title, image, etc it uses my monthly data allowance.

    I don't understand why this is the case because in most instances I am actually making the images smaller to facilitate faster note loading on my phone.

    Am I missing something?

    Why is my data being used when in fact it should be subtracting or at least stay the same.

    Evernote's limit is not how much storage you are using. Instead, it's an UPLOAD limit. And yes, if you change a note, even making the note smaller, you will use more bandwidth uploading the modified note. Total storage space is unlimited.


  13. Greedy cash grab by highly profitable company, combined with specious, disingenuous

    excuse that it's really what's best for our customers = create notebooks in GoodReader,

    transfer notes into Good Reader and delete Evernote. I'll bet I'm not the only one for whom

    this is the final straw. Goodbye

    GoodReader is a much better app. Does much more and NO IAPs or sneaky lets keep deleting features to get people to pay to have notebooks. Check it out, you won't be sorry. Don't get me wrong, Evernote, the product is great. Evernote the company, not so much.

    Yes!!! The audacity of a company actually wanting to get paid for their work!!!

    https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/85992-the-mail-conundrum-pay-or-abandon-your-notes/

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  14. What do you mean "MORE" dollars...??? Like Csihilling pointed out, how about ANY dollars???

    I'm happy to pay for software, but there has never been a compelling reason for me to upgrade.

    Until now. So apparently you are NOT happy to pay. Which is fine because clearly, if this "valuable" feature is not worth the $2.08 per month it would cost, then it's really not all that valuable to you.

    And yes, there was no need to start yet another thread on the topic.

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  15. BNF has chosen that title herself

    No I did not. That's how it was after the moderator changes were implemented. And even with the new moderator changes implemented, I am, well, still a moderator after all. So what?

    So, a poster with the self proclaimed title of Moderator is spamming the forums upsetting users who are already a little disgruntled and pointing them towards a competing product.

     

    Very clever secret OneNote employee, very clever.

    I'm not pointing users to anything. They are threatening to leave and Onenote has been mentioned by angry free users many, many times in recent threads. So my suggestion is very clear. Quite simply, if you're annoyed b/c you now have to pay for something that was free and this "valuable" service is not valuable enough for you to drop a few bucks a month on, then simply switch to something that better suits your needs. And I stand by my statement...losing non-paying customers really is no big deal.

    And sorry to disappoint, but as clever as you think you are, I do not work for MS.

    People have become so accustomed to free software that they have developed a sense of entitlement.  Why should they have to PAY for software???

     

    Developers do not often write software wholly because they are being philanthropic and feel inclined to gift the world with a wonderful, useful, FREE piece of software.  They do it because they want an income in order to pay their rent, buy groceries and shoes for their children.  Most software that has much value has some sort of limitation, unless you pay.  Sometimes it's a trial version.  Sometimes it's a version with ads.  And sometimes, it's a free version with limited features. 

     

    I do understand it's upsetting when a feature you have been using in one version requires you to upgrade to another version.  But it happens ALL THE TIME.  I have used ACDSee Photo Manager software for about 15 years.  And every year or two, I have to pay for an upgrade b/c there are new features or else b/c the old version doesn't work under my new OS or...whatever. 

     

    But it is the developer's right to revoke some free features.  In fact, any good dev has an obligation to their paying customers (and employees) to do their best to stay profitable.  Why?  Because the paying users have found value in the software and most times will want to continue to use it and have invested their $$$ in the app by supporting it financially.  And of course, the employees want to have a regular income.  Most of us do not want to devote a lot of time & energy into our jobs and then not get paid. 

     

    If the complainers will please note, no one (i repeat NO ONE) has stated you cannot or should not voice your opinion that you are upset by this decision.  However, for those of you who show a sense of entitlement (draconian???  seriously???), I would simply say, if it's not worth a years worth of a paid version of Evernote to you, then it would appear that feature really wasn't that useful to you.  If money is tight, there are creative ways such as asking family & friends to gift you with a subscription for birthdays, anniversaries or Christmas.  Or referring friends in order to get points. 

     

    I don't get why notes would then be abandoned. As in, one just gives up. There are many ways to get the content of emails into Evernote, not to mention copy-paste. I guess it's purely a case of semantics here. Was just curious.

    And yes, the thread title is laced with drama.  It would seem to me if the lack of this one feature on the free version of Evernote is dramatic enough to cause one to abandon Evernote, then one would instead be willing to pay for it.  But I'm not into drama...  So it boils down to this...if it's worth a few bucks to you, then fine.  If not, that's fine too.  Good luck with finding an app that better suits your needs.
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  16. It would seem their previous "business model" was not all that successful, if they are needing to be more aggressive about getting paying customers.  Lots of people have threatened to move to Onenote...if the ads are so bothersome but you're not willing to pay for EN, then I say go for it.

     

    As someone who paid for Evernote for several years and has since moved away from it (to Onenote), I would say it's annoying as heck to see so many free users complaining about having to pay for the service b/c of ___  (fill in the blank with your grievance).  Do you honestly think any company is going to lose sleep over losing non-paying customers...???


  17. Everyone is aware of the differences between free and premium - and many people buy premium that want/need these features.

     

    To annoy people with popups until the buy is obnoxious and a poor business model.

     

     

     

     

    It would seem their previous "business model" was not all that successful, if they are needing to be more aggressive about getting paying customers.  Lots of people have threatened to move to Onenote...if the ads are so bothersome but you're not willing to pay for EN, then I say go for it.

     

    As someone who paid for Evernote for several years and has since moved away from it (to Onenote), I would say it's annoying as heck to see so many free users complaining about having to pay for the service b/c of ___  (fill in the blank with your grievance).  Do you honestly think any company is going to lose sleep over losing non-paying customers...???

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  18. how about I don't want to sign up for your stupid cloud service. I don't want to download your friggin app. 

     

    I just want my notes that were LOCALLY STORED on MY DEVICE. I don't want your *****. 

     

    how can i get the notes off my HTC one without having to share EVERYTHING with your stupid app? 

     

    why do you need access to: 

    contacts

    calendar

    photos/gallery

    microphone

    messages 

    emails

    EVERY DOG DAMNED THING about a person? 

     

    you people are whats wrong with the internet. Go away with your intrusive, pervasive, sh1tty application.

    Since he doesn't want the toaster, can I have it??? Mine's on the fritz.

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  19. The numbers look promising so far, Evernote COO Linda Kozlowzki told Mashable. The company claims it may double its annual revenues over the next two years because of the new pricing options.

     

    Well, we'll see about that. I'm an Evernote user for 5 years now. Two of them as premium user. That's over now. I'm switching to OneNote.

    Not being able to access my notes without being online is an absolute deal breaker for me. The nag screen isn't helping, too.

    It's always helpful to mention what client(s) you're using. Mac and Windows desktop users have been able to access their notes when not online for years. Mobile clients for premium accounts have been able to access notebooks they've designated for offline use for years.

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