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  1. Hello everyone,

     

    I want to know if the vers. 2.2.2 of Evernote on my old PowerBook G4 (vers. 10.5.8) works fine and where can I

    downdload it.

    I inform you that I have the new premium version on my pc work (win), tablet (android) and Iphone;

    the three devices are synchronized to each other.

     

    Thank you in advance.

    Given that this version was a beta release nearly four years ago, you will probably need to get this (now) very old version someplace like FileHippo.


  2. I think this is because we know that ladies aren't very good with 'puters and need help from men to even complete simple tasks like their shopping lists, isn't that right BnF?

     

    (Runs for the hills)

     

    (But not that fast because we all know that ladies really can't run properly)

    Actually, they had to use so many men so that men would not feel intimidated & to emphasize that Evernote is so simple that even men can use it! :ph34r:

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  3. Hi guys,

     

    It's just a small thing but it irritates me that the splash page for evernote features almost all guys (5 guys to one woman) and isn't really representative of the user community. I'm glad there is one single woman but the ratio of 5:1 seems absurd; in terms of marketing this seems to strike the wrong chord... I'd feel the same way if the cards were reversed. Please get it together and present us with interesting-looking people of both sexes. 

     

    thanks,

    Amber

    Oh good grief. Just when I think I've seen it all...

    (Surely, this is a troll...???)

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  4. free member.   I dont get the export option when I right click notes or notebooks....solution or answer somebody?

    IIRC, you can only export from the desktop clients, not the web client. It would seem you are using the web client, if exporting is not an option.

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  5. Burgers and Fries wrote:

     

    I try to keep backups for at least a year. If it's been so long that you no longer have that backup then I would suggest one of two things. Either it really wasn't that important (b/c you didn't notice it missing for so long) 

     

    I had in those lost notebooks notes from a meeting concerning the buyout of my old company that has now figured into a lawsuit.  That is just one example.  Who are you to tell users that their notes aren't important because they didn't notice it missing for so long?  Ideally, I would never need to look up the notes from that meeting ever again, but the point is you don't know when you will need information of that nature.

     

    I presume you are not an employee of Evernote?  Because the idea of an Evernote employee telling a user his notes aren't important because he doesn't use them often enough would be beyond the pale.

    Oh good grief. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why does something always have to be someone else's fault?

    Please note I said:

     

    The instances I cited are not the only reasons for needing a backup. Yes, it's bad if a software upgrade destroys data. But...that's why one makes backups.

    But yes...if you haven't needed information for a year, there's a good chance you won't need it.  OTOH, as I also said:

     

    Then you should be able to recover your local notebooks from your backups. I try to keep backups for at least a year. If it's been so long that you no longer have that backup then I would suggest one of two things. Either it really wasn't that important (b/c you didn't notice it missing for so long) or else follow the not having all your eggs in one basket theory, which is another thing I do. Anything that's really important for me to remember is stored in at least two places. Stuff happens & software & hardware fail each & every day. In today's digital age, it's easy to make digital copies or have things stored in multiple apps as a CYA approach.

    Any data that is very important should not be stored in only one app.  Backups of (very) important data should be kept for longer than a year, if it contains data you think you may not need two years from now.  IE, medical information from 10 years ago, insurance policies, etc.  There are documents that will probably never be deleted from my computer because I do want to retain them for a long time. I sure as heck don't put the only copies into a software app. JMO & YMMV.  But as I also said...

     

    I have lost much data over the decades. But I've often said each time I've lost data, my backup routine gets better.

    And finally...

     

    1) Conta to what you just wrote, I DO do regular backups and I have those backups.

    Then you should be able to recover your local notebooks from your backups.

    Good luck.


  6. Evernote is oriented around a collection of notebooks, so obviously when I clip something from the web, it should ask what notebook I want to put the clipping in, right? Yet I see no such prompt or option. There is an oddly phraased option to always put clips into "current or default noteook," whatever that might mean, but that's not at all helpful. Is there some way to get it to prompte me to designate the notebook for each clip? The alternative seems suboptimal and downright absurd, I.e., to remember to move the clips out of the arbitrary notebooks they've been stuck into and put them in the right ones.

     

    Thanks very much.

     

    Sonoma Mann

     

    Every Evernote account has a default notebook, which is where notes that do not have a designated notebook go (IE if you email something into your EN account).  When you are using an EN client, you can select a notebook to work in.  IE, if you're clipping a lot of notes about a particular topic, this way you don't have to specify a notebook each time.  Just go to that notebook in the client & clip away.  Most users (including me) would hate to have to specify a notebook for each clipping, which is why there are these options.  Hardly absurd.  Many people use their default notebook as an inbox & then clear their inbox at a later date. 


  7. I am using Beta, but when I click the use old version link, it looks an awful lot like the premium version. Thoughts?

     

     

    Not sure what you're asking here.  Premium & beta are two entirely different things. 

     

    The software (on all clients) is pretty much the same for free & premium accounts.  The difference between free & premium is in the service, not the software.  IE larger uploads per month, larger note size, offline notebooks for mobile devices, etc.

     

    https://evernote.com/premium/?heading1&no-tabs=true&hide-menu&utm_expid=6007595-112.54hSNfJYQ2adLiVASME-Pw.1&gclid=CjwKEAjwotmoBRCc6LWd2ZnkuBYSJACyt2quR5K5AV8uOQpJkiDZ9izhQVTDo9FTsv4NQwJ_qzRPiBoCRunw_wcB&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Faclk%3Fsa%3Dl%26ai%3DC1jzwaDgXVZC7F5HQsQeE8IHwBeHL68sFsav0-v4BttvcrWAIABABILZUYMm-yYbEo8gXoAHvirHVA8gBAaoEIk_QWElvTEgrULsOoL9V5CiJ3PYYCn7gbsr-FsYm78A1yZ2ABZBOgAf59M4qiAcBkAcCqAemvhvYBwE%26sig%3DAOD64_2DGx0wvFE_OeiNr9E8_oaFB-ioPg%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26ved%3D0CBwQ0Qw%26adurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fevernote.com%2Fpremium%2F%253Fno-tabs%253Dtrue%2526hide-menu

     

    The beta version is just that...but may include additional (not ready for prime time) features.  Or...it may not be full featured yet, either.  Depends on the status of the beta and what Evernote is rolling out.  Free users and premium users can use the beta.

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  8. Netdrive allows all cloud accounts and I've read Evernote to be set up as virtural drives in windows explorer. it allows files to be better organized between all accounts. By the way I love Evernote(especially the clipper in browser).

     

    Evernote has publicly stated they do not support networked drives. Some people have reported success while others have claimed problems. Additionally, Evernote's CTO has publicly stated that attempting to put the live Evernote database in Dropbox has a high risk of data corruption. I'm not familiar with Netdrive, but if it's similar to Dropbox, I would think the same warning would apply.  And like Gaz, I would suggest against it. Please note that this differs from putting a BACKUP of your live database into a cloud such as Dropbox.

     

     

    Evernote is storing an interactive database of data that wouldn't be safe to shuffle around via Dropbox. I checked with our Mac lead, and I think this would have a very high risk of data corruption even if you could make it work, unfortunately.

    You could consider doing some sort of backup when Evernote isn't running, and placing this backup into Dropbox, but the real interactive database used by our app isn't safe to use in this way.

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  9. Is that what you tell to all the people that repeatedly have this problem in Evernote?

    It's what I tell anyone who has important data on their computer, regardless what apps they use. And if they are having "this problem repeatedly", they need to ramp up their backups b/c they must not be backing up the correct stuff or often enough.

     

    1) Conta to what you just wrote, I DO do regular backups and I have those backups.

    Then you should be able to recover your local notebooks from your backups. I try to keep backups for at least a year. If it's been so long that you no longer have that backup then I would suggest one of two things. Either it really wasn't that important (b/c you didn't notice it missing for so long) or else follow the not having all your eggs in one basket theory, which is another thing I do. Anything that's really important for me to remember is stored in at least two places. Stuff happens & software & hardware fail each & every day. In today's digital age, it's easy to make digital copies or have things stored in multiple apps as a CYA approach. I have lost much data over the decades. But I've often said each time I've lost data, my backup routine gets better.

     

    The point is that it strikes me a very easy problem to solve within Evernote software. And what's infinitely worse is that it's Evernote's own software that is destroying my data. My computer didn't crash, I didn't accidentally trash a file. Evernote did this behind the scenes on a reinstall (according to what support told me). I don't know why they don't fix this, especially when I'm reading so many people going through the same problem.

    The instances I cited are not the only reasons for needing a backup. Yes, it's bad if a software upgrade destroys data. But...that's why one makes backups.


  10. The most irritating response I have received back is "well you should have backed up your local notebooks and put them somewhere safe before you ever did a reinstall."  Well clearly.  But the question is WHY or HOW would I know to do that?

    In today's day & age, it doesn't require being a rocket scientist (NPI) to figure out that one should backup anything important that's on ones computer. Consider if your computer were lost or stolen? Or the hard drive crashed? Sorry you lost your data. But computers are such an integral part of most peoples' lives today that not doing regular backups is akin to ignoring auto, health or home maintenance & then having something go terribly wrong that could have been prevented with proper maintenance.


  11. I searched this forum and found a suggestion to log into the web app, resync, and then the desktop app should show the correct amount available.  No luck!  

    Since the web version deals directly with the Evernote servers, there is no syncing from the web client. You should sync the DESKTOP client in order for it to pull the correct/accurate amount from the EN servers.

    Problem has somehow solved itself ... this morning I created a new note in EN Web (beta version.)  Went back to EN Windows Desktop, clicked 'sync' and the new web note appeared in the desktop. I opened account settings and it now shows I've used only 1% of my monthly allowance.  All is right in the world again ...  ;)

    No mystery there. Since you synced the DESKTOP client, it pulled the correct amount from the servers.


  12. so, in summary, is the following correct? ---

    if half my evernotes are deleted then those lost notes are recoverable only

    until the next 'sync' - because after the next sync the evernote cloud has only

    the latest 'snapshot' of my database, and that database has been depleted

    by half.

    however, I could recover the lost evernotes by using my Mozy file backup service

    [Mozy backs up my files every two hours]

    and following the directions in the evernote knowledge base article ''backing up

    and restoring evernote data under windows''.

    p.s. I unsuccessfully tried to cut and paste text to this reply window. is there a way

    to do so?

    Restoring data is not a one size fits all. As mentioned in the thread csihilling linked to, it depends upon what you're restoring and what has transpired since the last backup.

    In the example you have, deleted notes go into the trash. If you accidentally delete half your notes, you can recover them from the trash, regardless if you have synced or not. I rarely empty the trash. But when I do, I make a backup first. If I later need these notes (after emptying the trash and syncing), I can recover them from the trash of my backup.

    Although charboyd has marked her answer as "best", I disagree b/c her post explains how Evernote syncs and how conflicting changes occurs. She does not address the issue of restore. Your OP was a bit vague, so her post MIGHT be the "best answer", depending upon what you intended (sync vs restoring data).

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  13. Recently I accidentaly cleared up my note and saved it. Is there a way to restore its data without buying a Premium account?

    Thanks

    Do you have a copy of the good note on a desktop or phone client? You could disconnect the device from the internet (so it doesn't sync the modified version down) & copy it (good version) or email it or something to yourself as a new note, directly to your Evernote email address (found in settings on the web client).

    Premium can be obtained for $5 for a single month. That's a pretty small price to pay, if the note was very important.


  14. Hi,

    I wanted to share a local notebook with a friend.

    Therefor, I am looking, if I can force to locate the new local notebook on a different harddisk.

    Or does .. local notebook .. only mean: ... it will not be synced ?

    (and it is not really different than the other notebooks (except the sync),

    Yourds Bernhard

    Local notebooks are not synced to the EN cloud & so cannot be shared. In the Windows client, all notebooks (local and synced) are in the same SQL database.


  15. What's the problem with having a tick to include trash? This is really annoying in a rare occurance I need it.

    It can't be that hard to add a tick that includes trash in search results.

    No one said it was. But in addition to the tick, of course the coding would need to be changed to search the trash. So it's simply not a matter of adding a tick to the UI. That's probably not all that hard to do, either. But regardless of how hard or easy something would be to add, it just may be that Evernote doesn't want to add that (or any other long sought after & requested feature). For whatever the reason. Their app & their choice as to what to add. Or not.


  16. It can't be that hard to add a tick that includes trash in search results.

    No one said it was. But in addition to the tick, of course the coding would need to be changed to search the trash. So it's simply not a matter of adding a tick to the UI. That's probably not all that hard to do, either. But regardless of how hard or easy something would be to add, it just may be that Evernote doesn't want to add that (or any other long sought after & requested feature). For whatever the reason. Their app & their choice as to what to add. Or not.


  17. No answer?

    This days i writing a lot for my blog and i use evernote everyday...it very usefull to have a button to CAPITALIZE entire phrases instead to REWRITE all

    I think that a button like that is a function that helps a lot blogger like me

     

     

    I'm not sure what you're looking for.  Everyone has their own 1 or 2 (or more) features they think will make Evernote the "best utility ever".  None of yours are on my list.

     

    Evernote claims they read all posts on the board.  I used to believe that, but am not sure at this point.  However, they do not acknowledge every post or thread, do not normally publish ETAs and do not post their roadmap.


  18. This notebook contained all the notes for my toughest class :( I work on this about 15 hours a week and it's a super detrimental loss. 

     

    I don't have time machine installed on my computer... I didn't think this sort of thing could happen without it Asking me if I was sure about deleting something.

    I would suggest you regularly backup your local database. You say you didn't think "this sort of thing could happen". What if your computer's hard drive crashed & the data was unrecoverable? What if your computer were lost/stolen?


  19. I don't know why EN decided not to include this tiny little feature of EASILY clearing checked off notes, if your going to make a robust note keeping software you gotta include the little details that's what keeps someone using it, but when I as a user run into situations that pull your hair out like this I look elsewhere because its not a complete tool.  I look for tools that are comprehensive and simple...  that's useful  It's getting a lot of attention because overal EN is fantastic, why hold it up from being awesome....gonna look into "keep" by google

    Evernote has taken the stance to not make any modifications to the user's notes. If this is a necessity for you, then there are true list/task managers that will do the job for you. The right tool for the job & all that jazz.


  20. You posted whilst I was typing, oops.  I was referring to anything less than an full restore with an EXB replacement, poor choice of words "restoring anything".  That make more sense?

    Yup.  ;)

     

    Or certain cases where there were very few changes to local notes & the user has a lot of links in local notebooks that they don't want to break.  That whole pesky "not one size fits all" thing again.

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  21. For a full restore, you will want to reload your synced notebooks from the cloud and then import ENEX files for all of your local notebooks.  You don't want to add your local notebooks to the web.  The web version is the gospel for synced notebooks, nothing to do with local notebooks.  You always want to import local notebooks when restoring anything.

    I disagree about always importing local notebooks when restoring. See my post above yours wrt full restore of local notebooks from an exb file.


  22. hm okay I see there's some debate on restore and using 3rd party with evernote

     

    I'm going to ask questions on both sides :P

     

    "The only true restore I have found is at Revert.io.    They do a backup of changed Notes (of your Sync'd Notes in the EN Cloud) several times a day, and offer a true restore at the Note(s), Notebook, and account levels.  I am using it now and still in the process of evaluation, but so far it looks very good.   But this does NOT backup Local Notebooks." 

     

    If it doesn't backup a local notebook how is it backing / linked up in the cloud? 

     

    "Select all Notes

    Right-click and choose "Save Attachments . . ."

    Okay I didn't realize it was that easy to do, thought it had to be done 1 at a time

    Edit: Well it saved lots of things I didn't really want like images / screenshots. Really just wanted PDF attachments, excel sheets, etc

     

    From cshilling:

    "@daphoneix7207,

     

    Relative to your question, IMO, EXB and ENEX are both valid backup/archive strategies for synced and local notebooks.  Restores can be problematic though, and EXB and ENEX backups have the some restore issues, amplified by the time since the backup/archive.  

     

    From a simple archiving "just in case and not likely to be used" perspective EXB is probably best, quick and simple.  

    --Okay I figured this would be sufficient 99% of the time

     

    For partial restores ENEX is easier since all you have to do is import the ENEX file, move the notes you want and then delete the imported notebook that was created.  EXB is harder for partial restores since you you have to drop internet connectivity, move your EXBs around, export the notes you want from the backup EXB, re-swap your EXBs, import the notes you wanted, turn the internet back on.  Not for the faint of heart for a few notes restore but definitely doable.

    --I guess I would run a partial restore if something important was permanently deleted or some tags weren't done correctly. I actually don't know what the difference between EXB, ENEX file types are

     

    For an unintended full restore, God forbid, it is often best to rebuild your database from the cloud and then import the ENEX backups of your local notebooks should you have any.  Unless your EXB is so recent that you aren't concerned with any new note or updates loss.

    --So just use the evernote web version and import local files / manually enter in into evernote web, then download into windows evernote client? 

     

    Local note links can/will get broken so a practice of minimizing local note links and keeping the link name the same as the note title can mitigate the pain.

    --Okay this is good to know, I imagine having the same name means I can just use "search titles" for notelinks if they break. 

     

    Personally I do both, an EXB copy and ENEX's of all notebooks, taken at the same time.  Then based upon the scale of the problem that might occur I have two paths to travel.  A path not traveled at this point.  FWIW.

    --I still don't know what ENEX vs. EXB's data does, but I'll regularly export notebooks and do a local backup. Then when everything goes bad at least the data will be there and I'll have to spend lots of time fixing it

     

    I'm dumping my local copies into dropbox if that matters. Probably doesn't though

    Restores are not one size fits all.  As Csihilling pointed out, it depends upon what has transpired since the last backup & what you are wanting to restore. 

     

    I only backup the EXB file.  I don't export to ENEX b/c if you have a good exb file, you can open it & then create the enex file, should you need/want to.  JMO.  And they are NOT required.

     

    To restore your local (non-sync'd) notebooks (in the event of a hard drive crash) or to move your database to a new computer (upgrading and/or computer loss/theft), the local notebooks would need to be in a recent backup of your exb file.  Simply install Evernote & restore from the good exb file:

     

    https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/22426-how-to-backup-your-windows-client-evernote-database/?p=158514

     

    Then sync:

     

    https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/21977-location-of-locally-stored-notebooks/?p=162582

     

    This is similar to if you did not use the Windows client since your last backup, which was last week.  Instead, you used the web client to add/modify/delete sync'd notes using the web client.  Then today, you use the Windows client & sync.  Same exact scenario, in essence.  This does NOT break note links or go against your upload limit.  Importing from ENEX files DOES break links & goes against your upload limit.  Another reason I prefer to avoid enex files.

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