darioangelo

I did the same about four weeks ago. It was difficult after being a power EN user for over eight years. 

My move to apple notes has been smooth and I have a frictionless workflow. Using Airmail which converts emails to pdf’s or copies email link. No more actobatics to simply annotate a pdf or hand write or sketch. Integrates with Things3. 

Using read it later app “Reeder 5” to control the inevitable boarding that EN facilitated with it's automations. 

With 10k plus notes in EN didn't think the move would be so easy. 

I am a massive EN fanboy and advocate, and confess that I have also tried adapting a GTD orientated task management system within my EN ecosystem. 

There are superior tools which integrate with EN such as Things 3 that are tactile and enable quick entry. 

For power users and for those with complexity around task deliverables you cannot beat; Todist, Omnifocus or Things 3. At least for now - I look forward to the further development of EN Tasks and the day when I can streamline my apps. 

1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

Personally I use Things 3 for GTD. EN links open legacy, shared links open a note in the browser. The interaction with v10 is not as smooth as it used to be.

Personally I would appreciate to have a choice. Since EN has the far better collection tools, it is better suited to work as a global inbox to collect all new stuff - which speaks for using it as GTD hub.

When doing so, Tasks are an excellent extension.

Exactly my view - same goes with pdf editing and handwriting - EN's efforts in these areas seems to be  token at best - business card scanning is now best dealt by Cardhop by flexibits - EN should focus on doing fewer things better than anyone else and partner with market leaders to enhance the workflow experience. 

4 minutes ago, DTLow said:

A dedicated task management app will always deliver aa better feature-set   
I think Evernote's strength is delivering generic storage/organization features that serve a variety of uses    
- for example tags that can be used to label task status

The question then is why would EN bother to create Tasks? Why not encourage and facilitate a tighter integration with the likes of Omnifocus, Todist and Things ? 

@PinkElephant I entirely agree with you.
 

At least EN is recognising the needs of the EN community and moving in the right direction.

The most widely respected task management apps are well known-EN  should look to calibrate against these.

Then we will have a game changer.

I would be keen to understand how to implement a smooth GTD methodology using Tasks. 

To optimise my workflow,  I have been using Things 3 - I worked hard to create an intra EN GTD system, and tried all the various setups. In the end  I found myself spending too much time on the system itself rather than the system delivering me Task Managment support.

I use Taskclone; to connect my EN notes to actions in Things 3.

For emails, within my Outlook Email client with EN add-in, I can tag a note  and it goes straight to EN with a link to Things 3; alternatively, in Sparkmail which integrates directly to EN and Things 3 it’s a simple swipe action. 

@PinkElephant agree - however, it exemplified a time when EN was at the leading edge. I am a big supporter of EN but find that it has now evolved to being just a convenient bulk store and retrieval system. You cannot - as far as I can determine effectively annotate a PDF within the app- the Skitch type features are too simplistic-so I end up exporting a PDF to another app like PDF Expert or GoodNotes 5 and then re-importing it back in? 

The simple workaround is to use Scannable to scan the business card to EN and automatically export the details to your Contacts app.

I am trying the new flexibits (makers of Fantastical) Cardhop a contacts data base and which has just rolled out Cardhop 2 with a business  card and letterhead scanning feature.

The previous EN business card scanning feature also integrated it with LinkedIn which made it a very powerful feature; following a meeting to scan a business card once and; 1.  digitise it into Evernote;  2. extract it’s details and export them into contacts, and; 3. invite the person to join your LinkedIn network.

I am of the view that we have lost many invaluable features which made the old EN a powerhouse, I am finding that I am adding other smart apps to my workflow to make up for EN’s deficiencies and lost features. 

@Horace_NYCagree, we all need to be patient. 

I feel that we are in for a treat with future updates that ship a credible task management functionality that is baked into our Home dashboard. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Airmail in my experience a great looking client with tons of features but it is very buggy. I strongly recommend Sparkmail if you are looking for a robust client with a smooth integration with EN. Outlook has also come a long way. 

I think that we have witnessed an accidental leak, or a teaser, of what is to come. 

It looks like a sweet reward and vindication for all of us EN true believers ＼（^０＾）／

Agree @jeanmieleand @Phargraves2, I miss this once great EN feature which also had a cool integration with LinkedIn. The only work around that I have found is to use Scannable which recognises business card scans and sends data to contacts and saves the card scan to a EN notebook.

😀@MvdH

I completely understand and support where @Oberdada is coming from and his particular needs.

A task management approach should resonate not only with your thinking process, the type of work that you do, your level of responsibility and also your personal and community obligations. 

A trusted system enables a healthy detachment. 

For a long time EN was my go to GTD system (I have previously written about it in this Forum); it is now my capture (and reference storage) tool. I also use apps such as GoodNotes 5 for note taking and pdf annotation as Skitch just doesn't cut it.

So out if necessity, I am somewhat used to venturing out of the EN ecosystem to gain the sharpest tools. 

My work has many interfaces, and is high in its intensity- my particular setup helps me to deal with all it's moving parts. 

I look forward to the day when EN gains and regains sufficient features and capabily, so that I may once again rely on it exclusively for my GTD, and also save a bundle of money on other app subscriptions. 

@MvdH

You seem to be on a similar journey that many of us who are passionate about Evernote (EN) and GTD have been on.

From my own experience, our quest for an efficient and effective workflow,  invariably drives us to; minimising the number of tools (or apps), and making the most of our much loved EN which is the best for capture (and retrieval.)

The challenge is the GTD piece.

It is important that any system does not, consume inordinate time and gamify task management.

Whatever investment is made in terms of learning, subscribing to and administering a system, the system should deliver a tangible return. 

I have tried all the various techniques that singularly deploy EN (and even developed my own);  for me they all fell short in providing the agility and flexibility, and review of my work and personal deliverables.

My research and trials; finally led me to settle on Omnifocus which integrates well with EN and my email client;  Sparkmail.

Omnifocus, allows me to ”slice and dice” my tasks by any vector (perspective, in Omnifocus parlance) such as; contexts (tags)- people, agenda’s,  place,  projects, and even a return on effort (eisenhower), errands, etc.

It is feature rich and includes a cool geo fencing capability.

Realistically, EN, cannot be expected to cater for GTD power users , so we should deploy it's power to capture and clarify, and then organise, reflect and engage using Omnifocus or another similar specialised app. Most GTD systems singularly using EN, can become time consuming hacks, at least with the current EN version. 

Your task management needs are quite heavy; hence I would strongly recommend that you adopt a specialist app to work in concert with EN. 

Expecting EN to manage a power users task management needs, is no different to expecting say Apple to have a leading edge email client or calendar app, and satisfisfy it's broad user demographic at the same time; an impossible expectation - hence why , Fantastical, and Spark (and a few others) are popular for power users. 

EN future versions I suspect will better address task management. 

I hope this helps. 
 

In the meantime, let's hope for a better set (and reinstatement) of EN core features such as handwriting, pdf annotation and business card scanning.🤞

Thank you, I will give Dropbox Paper a try.

Agree with you, swstarkey, this has been a frustration for years now.

I was an absolute EN fanboy, now, sadly, I find that I am increasingly using alternative tools. 

For handwritten notes/pdf markups - I use Goodnotes 5 or PDF Expert, for GTD/task management-I use Omnifocus and Monday.com for team collaboration. 

Evernote, has largely become a legacy app; which due to a lack of strategic leadership has lost valuable ground and allowed passionate and progressive competitors to take away it's market dominance. 

This is perhaps best represented by Penultimate and Skitch; which are lagging so far behind their competition that they have become quite jolting reminders on how far Evernote’s star has dimmed; they should be gracefully phased out.

Totally agree - Penultimate which like Skitch is in the Evernote ecosystem has been left languishing, I find myself increasingly buying other apps to fulfill functions and then integrating them into my business EN account.

The leadership is remaining quiet, which is a concern. 

Google or Apple should buy Evernote as the current corporate strategy isn't working.

@JoeTaxpayer Noteshelf 2, has one of the most extensive free stationery "cupboards" of any app, including a wide range of grid/graph  and technical papers. The best part about the app is that it syncs automatically to my EN account and my notes are available quickly from any device via the super EN OCR. 

Agree, that GN5 has an excellent handwriting engine, for me the killer feature of Noteshelf 2 is the automatic EN sync, resulting in all my notes being searchable via EN’s powerful OCR. 

Thoroughly recommend Noteshelf 2. 

Hi pdunningan,

I had the same issue.

If you are using a Mac, 

1. Download the following app cleaner to completely remove all Evernote app files;  

https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/

2.  empty your trash, and then

3. down load the Evernote app from the Evernote website.

Hope this does the trick,

Kindest,

da

I am having exactly the same problem, I uninstalled using Clean my Mac and then tried reinstalling     ( via app store and also EN website)-have reported the issue to support no response as yet. 

The best writing app that also automatically syncs with Evernote is Noteshelf 2. 

Hello DTLow,

I would simply add a Reminder (ie activate the clock icon) without adding a date/time. In this way you will see the item as a reminder when viewing the "all notes" option in your EN side bar -(in reminders mode), and it will not appear as a calendar event. 

I should add that in the EN viewing panel you have the opportunity to mark the reminder as done. It is also a very good synopsis of all event based or non event based reminders. 

For me at least, EN does the job elegantly particularly when paired with Smartsheet for team endeavours.

Cheers,