Frank.dg

Yes, you're right... seen as a natural extension for those already using Evernote for business, Work Chat sure does makes sense. Plus, specifically Evernote Business users are kind of locked in anyways. Maybe it's simpler than I was thinking. There are many people using Evernote for (small) business intuitively, without the actual Evernote Business setup. If Evernote is counting on the Evernote Business part of things expanding, and Work Chat were simply a betterment of the service to them, it's looking good. But I'd venture to say that there are many business-oriented people out there (using Evernote for their own use cases) who have no use for Work Chat, simply because they've been working with other similarly competent apps/ software all along. It's not easy to convince anyone to move over to a different collaboration platform if they already have an equivalent productivity system in place. I'm saying this from my extensive, albeit finite knowledge of task-management and/or collaboration apps/ tools. For those who've got their feelers out, no doubt they've come across and tinkered with dozens of such apps as a matter of course. Just to clarify, I'm not one of those pushing for fully-fledged task-management in Evernote. I personally don't see that as helpful... but I see it as a missing ingredient if they were to try and go head to head with project/ document collaboration tools already out there. For me, personally, I see Work Chat as a possible extension to the notebooks/ notes I want to share... only with those who I know have an Evernote account. I thought perhaps they were trying to tap into a whole new market. It's all about one's perspective. I totally get what you were saying about existing users using Evernote for business.

I'm curious... perhaps Mac users on the forum could report back on whether the largest-smallest dimension can in any way be affected when one re-sizes images inline. If so, would that not resolve this situation when the common editor rolls out to all platforms (if inline-image re-sizing is in fact part of the standardization)?

You're absolutely spot on there. That's what I've picked up all along... and Evernote have expressed as much... but, what with the new Work Space vision and all, how do they expect people to warm to using Work Chat to collaborate on documents and another app to manage tasks (multiple apps), when many great apps out there already provide a great mashup of task/ project/ document collaboration and an accompanying dialogue facility? In terms of Work Chat, it seems like they're a little late to the party... unless they're banking on (1) the vast majority of users being comfortable with managing multiple platforms (to manage tasks externally), (2) a significant portion of the documents being collaborated on already existing in Evernote - especially notes created in Evernote - and together with that - (3) users making use of presentation mode in team meetings, (4) users being significantly invested in the work space as it relates to Evernote Business and/or "Contexts" to surface and expand upon ideas, etc. Come to think of it, these are sufficient draw cards alone.. but I see the lack of a fully-integrated task-management solution in-app - quite a large hurdle for many who already have the type of communication that Work Chat offers plus a to-do facility combined - even if users did see the light and took advantage of how all of Evernote's services are now lining up with the new work space vision (Penultimate included). Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of Evernote's new vision. If we're simply taking about the Evernote we'd come to know and love, I personally have no need for task management in-app. I think that Work Chat is going to present a challenge for Evernote to promote without some of the missing puzzle pieces. Without a dedicated to-do integration, it's going to be a tug-of-war with no clear winner.

I am amazed at how few apps use it. If my Todos in Evernote could flow out into a ToDo app and easily show due dates etc, I would be so happy. Then you're about to get happy, @dplosk I'd recommend you take a look at some existing 3rd-party apps... Some very cool options out there already!

I totally hear what you're saying... that's why it takes quite a lot of tinkering to wangle a full-on task management solution out of Evernote. Here is one of a couple of posts I made to that effect (using the reminder list): http://www.productivitymashup.com/blog/2014/10/16/kanban-calendar-evernote-series-2-of-5 Also, worth noting, the system I propose is quite an unusual one, and at the same time does away with the necessity of recurring due dates (looking at the "Kanban Calendar" system dynamics in any app, really). However, it is not for everyone - and in that sense, recurring reminders/ due dates in Evernote is sorely absent for many users. Evernote is in a sort of catch-22 predicament here when it comes to revamping task management in-app... for the simple fact that they would be disenfranchising hoards of 3rd-party to-do app developers who have built their platforms almost entirely on Evernote. Not to mention the goodwill they have built up over the years in conjunction with their open API and the Evernote Devcup they host every year. They would undermine a lot of hard work. In that sense, Evernote cannot have their cake and eat it. Something would have to give. A few examples: Gneo, Sunrise, Swipes, Card desk, Tusktools

Here's a tutorial for transferring photos from iPhone to your iMac: http://www.iskysoft.com/topic-ipod/transfer-photos-from-iphone-to-mac.html What I do when I need a photo from my iPhone on Desktop, I add it to my iOS Evernote client... It should then sync to your Evernote desktop client on Mac. Also, if you have Dropbox and are familiar with it, you can make your iOS photos upload to DB automatically... That way, once synced to the cloud, you should be able to drag and drop those photos from your DB folder on desktop into an existing Evernote note. Here's how to transfer photos from your Photo Stream to your desktop: http://support.digidna.net/hc/en-us/articles/203503553-Transfer-Pictures-from-Photo-Stream-to-your-Mac-Desktop That should access all the photos currently in your photo stream (online) that ordinarily show up between iOS devices. There are most likely dozens of other ways... But as to a feature within your Evernote desktop client that may be able to access your iPhotos, I'm not sure. Another (Mac) user will have to chime in here.

One of 2 ways: If you're in edit mode (i.e. you see the keyboard):tap on the image icon to the right of the camera iconIf you're only viewing a note:tap the camera icon at the foot of the screen (to the right of the alarm clock)tap on "Saved photo"

How about Evernote's new Mac feature – that of being able to resize images inline… Could that affect the largest smallest dimension in any way?

Hey David, I set out on a (personal) mission to see how quickly and efficiently I could do what you've described above... learned some keyboard shortcuts in the process. Here's what I boiled it down to (on Windows desktop): Select text Ctrl-C-N-V (Copy, New note, Paste - Note title is created automatically) Copy new note link Return to original note & select original text Ctrl-K-V, Enter (Create hyperlink, Paste, Enter) So now I'm all dressed up and I've got nowhere to go, haha! Anyways, I throw in my lot here too. It would be nice to: Select text Right click New Note HyperlinkThe thought does come to mind, though... that even if we had this feature, we would still often need to create hyperlinks to existing notes manually. This feature would therefore be great - part of the time, at least.

It's pretty darn cool... except you'll have to resort to workarounds on mobile devices. There are quite a few Evernote features tucked away here and there... one would never think to take another look at the "after clip" box, for example... plus there's "Google simultaneous search" to be had in the Settings menu of the Web Clipper. I learn something new almost every day with EN. Especially with new ways to search... even if I don't need them ;-)

If you use the Chrome web clipper to clip specifically Gmail emails, it can be done from your browser. The advantage of this method (if you use Gmail on desktop) is that you don't have to remember the mail-to-Evernote syntax in your email subject line. For some, it could be more intuitive this way. Plus you can't set a date/ time reminder through the subject line. 1. Click on the Evernote web clipper icon... make any changes to the note title, notebook, tag, comments, etc... or simply clip it as is. 2. Once the web clipper has finished syncing, you'll see an option to set a reminder. You can also set a date and time if you wish. I have figured out how to send an email to Evernote and include a date/ time specific reminder in the subject line (which may or may not be practical depending). It's just an example of how one can find a solution if you tinker. This would work in my case, if I wanted, say, to send an email to Evernote with a date reminder while I'm on my iPad... by including it in the email subject line. It would involve having a Gneo app account (for iOS). This is what I've just tested out: 1. Include the time and date in the subject line of the email you want to send to Gneo/ Evernote (Gneo syncs with notebooks within the Gneo stack in your Evernote account). In this case, for testing purposes, I have a ".Today" notebook in my Gneo Stack. So I'm sending it there. This is as much as you need to do... the rest will be automated behind the scenes. All you have to do is include the time and date... plus remember to send it to a specific notebook in the Gneo stack (@.Today in this case). It will then show up in your reminder list in either that notebook context or else in "All notes". Below you will see the steps in the subsequently automated process: 2. Once Gneo has synced with Evernote, it imports the email I sent to the ".Today" notebook within the Gneo stack in Evernote... adding a reminder according to the date in the note title... 3. Evernote, in turn, receives the modified note from Gneo and includes the same reminder in Evernote:

In the early days of this thread, there was some friendly banter about alphabetizing grocery lists in Evernote... along with a couple of tongue-in-cheek rebuttals. This nifty iOS app, "GroceryTrip", built as a 3rd party Evernote app, has been out for some time. It's pretty awesome. Grocery list sorting doesn't get any better than this: http://vimeo.com/69006480 ... for all else, there's WorkFlowy ;-)

I hear you lisec. It's a good first step though. The thing is that we want public notebooks back. There is no other better first step than this one. I mean, how quickly did they include it back in the new Windows revamp?... plus web version. If the lash back this time from users was enough to bring back the feature that fast, I'm sure users will have a greater case in the event of a recurrence. I do not use public notebooks for educational purposes, however, the biggest outcry came from educators far and wide, especially on Twitter. I think Evernote now realizes how essential this has been to so many people. Actually it seems a little more solid this time 'round, accessing the public notebooks options through its own "publish" section: It was mentioned that they wanted to really push the share feature for collaboration. It looks like through the above display they get to highlight that even better simply because it is now contrasted with the publish option. I think it's is a smart setup now. Someone did some scrambling and lateral thinking to come up with this beauty of an idea! Another safety measure which might prolong anyone's use of pubic links, for if they ever do away with the public notebook feature (since the old public notebook links still functioned before) would be to create some "standby" public notebook links which could be used at a later date when needed, since they would still be active. How many of them do we really need anyway? This should not have to be a workaround... I hope it wouldn't need to come to that, and neither is it the main point I'm trying to make... I'm just all for making do with what we have. I think it's all good from here on out either way :-) As a side note. It never occurred to me before... but a possible alternative was still... and may still be in the future, the ability to publish a collection of public notes on the free postach.io blogging platform, which is also pushing hard in the educational field. Not the same, but a doable alternative for some.

Thanks Evernote for bringing back public notebooks quicker than expected. Sorted now for both Windows desktop and web versions. Your quick response to the outcry more than patches up things with me. Makes me feel that for any significant rollback in the future that users unanimously disagree on - both premium and free users will be heard. Awesome!

Will be good to know the results Boatguy. I did not have the patience to do so just for the sake of testing.

Hi cwb, I took quite a bit of my time out to do some trouble-shooting... not only for the original poster and Boatguy, but for users who might have a similar problem. The general topic became more than just note titles not matching note content, specifically for Boatguy. I do believe that what I wrote was pertinent. One day I hope to use words such as behoove ;-)

Hi Boatguy, you do know there is a "Synchronize on WiFi Only" setting, right? Just checking. You might just be saying above that you would choose that option (that you know you have) if all notes were really downloaded. That's a little unclear to me. Probably you did know that already... but the reason it occurred to me to ask, is that when people have switched on that option, they assume they can see/ download the contents of their notes that they open when they have a 3G/ 4G, EDGE, connection. That is only possible when that option is switched off.

Another problem some people might have (iOS) if they are out and about with 3G/ 4G and have switched on "Synchronize On WiFi Only" (settings/ general). Their notes created elsewhere would theoretically not download until they are connected to WiFi, even if they have a 3G/ 4G service. As far as I can see, there should not be a problem with accessing notes on iPhone which were NOT already synced before we left a WiFi connection if we: 1. Make sure that the notes we want are in a synchronized notebook (not local) 2. Make sure that our notes can synchronize on 3G/4G connection (don't switch on "Synchronize On WiFi Only" feature) 3. We manually hit the synchronize icon on desktop before shutting down/ closing laptop (the most frequently Evernote will auto-sync on desktop is every 15 minutes) 4. Physically open the note we need before leaving a WiFi connection so that it downloads (if one has chosen to not download notes in the "offline notebooks" section in iOS). I have chosen the iOS option on iPhone "Do Not Download Notes". I have way too much information to do that. But what will happen is that the headers of the notes will sync when I have any sort of an internet connection, whether WiFi or 3G. Then... when I lose my 3G connection on the rare occasion, I will be able to see the note headers, but not be able to see the contents of notes - because I had not set them to download. When I get my 3G connection back I am then able to see the contents within notes when I open them because they download once I have any sort of connection. Once someone understands these parameters, if there is still an issue with not being able to see notes (unexpectedly), then there is most likely a problem with the app. The most common mistake is that premium users assume they will be able to access the contents of notes offline just because they can see the headers... when they themselves have chosen to not download any of their notebooks. It is a little confusing at first... but once we understand these things, we can begin to kick ourselves if it really was our own mistake. We live and learn. Just saw I repeated a few things Gazumped already mentioned.

Just wanted to mention something that could possibly be a problem for some people without them knowing it... or the people trying to help them. There is also a feature when creating a new notebook that allows you to make it a local notebook, meaning that it will stay on your machine... it will not be able to synchronize to other devices. Not with the "download all notes" feature... not ever. Once you create a local notebook, it cannot be changed. All you can do to make the contents thereof synchronize, is to transfer them to a newly created synchronized notebook. To make matters a little tricky, it is not easy to see which notebooks on your desktop are local and which are not... unless you go to the expanded notebook menu (double clicking on notebook section in 1st panel)... if you hover over each notebook (you have to expand the stacks first), you will see a sync icon in each notebook that is synchronized. Notebooks without a sync icon are local notebooks: Synchronized notebook: Local notebook

I'm with you on this one Darren. I think they're just now realizing how important it is, most notably for educators. I'm just wondering why this wasn't so obvious before. An overwhelming number of the Evernote blog posts/ reviews scattered across the web are about using Evernote for education. In turn, most of the people who write those posts are teachers/ professors... plus, most of them rave about public notebooks.

I have always had nothing but praise for all things Evernote, and have been all for workarounds in the past on a host of things... BUT... there is no workaround for the absence of this feature. People have built strategies around it. Overnight it is not as convenient for educators. Dropbox would fare better in some ways in this department. Don't make me resort to public folders in Dropbox. I beg of you. I follow almost every scrap of information on the web via "Mention", including twitter. The biggest buzz I see time and time again refers to Evernote and education. There are countless blog posts extolling shared notebooks. People use Evernote because it makes life easier. Now a teacher/ professor has to collect lists of emails and manually enter them into a share field within his Evernote account? That's kind of tedious. Every Evernote user that is not a premium user will inevitably hop on board in the near future. There was a time where I wondered how Google made money off people like me... then I got a credit card and became an online consumer, as well as nowadays finding most of what I want online before buying it. An overwhelming number of people who use Evernote are "free" users. I was for about a year. It's a matter of time. What I'm saying is that Evernote, as a company, should pay attention to all of its users. It's all about word of mouth. That's 90% of what I see on Twitter these days with free premium months. Actually, I have never really noticed whether there are "Dropbox Evangelists", etc. (as a catch phrase). There are Evernote Evangelists every which way you turn. Remember that a great part of the success of the Evernote service is directly because of such people. Please bring that feature back... or give us a hell of a good reason why not. Evernote still rocks. I'm sure they will take these comments into account and rectify it.

Pretty crappy predicament for cfibanez. Not only inconvenient... But also embarrassing. So I wouldn't take the rant personally... However it was good to point out that we are all fellow users here. Good thing that it was an isolated incident. Anyhow... One thing I make sure to do is check my coupon or whatever it is I need on the device I will be carrying with me, as in the case of my recent skydiving trip. I mainly check just to see that the note has downloaded to iPhone - just in case my 3rd world 3G service does not come through. Then I would have picked up on whatever possible screwup before leaving home.