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Agreed... just a quick bit of speculation... do you think Composer will be fully baked into Dropbox itself, allowing one to pop their notes into a nested hierarchy of folders... or do you think it will just integrate with Dropbox simply to allow for the attachment of files in a flatter stack-notebook system? Are we looking at a nested folder/ notebook dynamic that many have asked of Evernote here?

Oh, the drama!: Dropbox confirms it's been secretly working on a Google Docs and Evernote killer ... but will we have OCR and web clipping??

It would be nice if Evernote did offer this powerhouse feature... but sadly it is not a reality... yet. There are many lightweight apps that can do things Evernote can't do. Basically every outliner, for instance. OneNote cannot do a bunch of things Evernote can do. That's the beauty of multiple apps... especially if one doesn't have to fork out for all of them. You need Evernote to extract OCRed text to round off your toolbox and get rid of OneNote. Other are looking for yet other features in Evernote to do away with a couple of their apps that are loitering. Looks like Evernote can't please everyone. In a couple of years it might be par for the course for all note-taking apps to follow-suite and plug in these "holes".

Nine times out of ten, an argument ends with each of the contestants more firmly convinced than ever that he is absolutely right. You can’t win an argument. You can’t because if you lose it, you lose it; and if you win it, you lose it. Why? Well, suppose you triumph over the other man and shoot his argument full of holes and prove that he is non compos mentis. Then what? You will feel fine. But what about him? You have made him feel inferior. You have hurt his pride. He will resent your triumph. And - "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." - Dale Carnegie I, myself, have done well to remember the above sage wisdom on (many an) occasion.

Good workaround. Problem solved. It would be nice to discuss the possibilities a product like Dropbox may offer in the near future without having a muti-page debate on privacy issues every time the word is mentioned. We all get it. Privacy and security are important. It's a prerequisite. As long as you're using a cloud service (you know... collaboration, syncing to multiple devices effortlessly, etc...) nothing is bulletproof.

I think it says in the article that no one has access to even a beta at this stage. It was pulled. So we'll have to wait and see. As far as privacy goes, I'm guessing Dropbox is a name that most can trust, so I would never have thought privacy to be an issue.

Dropbox's forward march has got to pique your interest. They're clearly moving into the note-taking niche and positioning themselves for a piece of the pie: http://m.tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/dropbox-testing-project-composer-a-collaborative-note-taking-app-will-compete-with-google-docs-and-evernote-261824.html Let's see whether they throw web clipping and OCR search capabilities in the mix. They may just be many peoples' answer to a decent note-taking file repository like Evernote, which employs nested folders (if that's what floats one's boat). Also, very impressive, is their recent launching of their Carousel app, which is their gallery app for your photos and videos in Dropbox. An area which Evernote has not decided to develop.

You need to do some more reading in the forums... there is a boatload of very specific information you might find valuable (besides @JMichael's mention of secure notebooks, as you said). You might want to start from the beginning of this very thread and make some notes (or clip some selections to Evernote)... because I think you've skipped over quite a bit. There's a lot for quiet contemplation in this very thread. Once you've practiced your Angular JS Programming and have something to show off, I'd love to give it a spin. BTW, there are some other developers who have created lighter versions of Evernote and posted here in the forums. You'll need to do a little digging, though. I honestly think it's all been said here on the forums already. Even easier renaming of notebooks on Mac...

@alwaysambitious, Why not start a separate thread in the form of a feature request for whatever it is you think is lacking, no matter how big or small? I have done so on occasion. I would venture to say that not being able to rename a notebook on the Mac client with a double click it's not the most appropriate topic to kick around on a thread that is dedicated to issues that "power users" are facing, and the search for alternative services. I doubt that someone is going to jump ship because they cannot rename a notebook on Mac more easily. Your feature request/tweak is more than valid… But I think it has long since run its course on this thread - which, again, is not the most appropriate thread on this forum for that particular one.

OK... even easier: Just pop your Spaced Repetition time interval checkbox list template into each note and set the Reminder for each note accordingly. As an option, you could tag each note by subject, which you most likely have already done as an independent thing

It's pointless to discuss this because it is unlikely Evernote will go down this path in view of the fact that they are adding features for their business users particularly, and those can be turned off. I agree with "unlikely". I disagree with "pointless"/ "useless". I strongly DISagree with☺Most of the stuff we kick around here in the forum comes in the form of problem solving and workarounds. Raising scenarios or requests, however unlikely, could (and does) lead to a great discussion.

That would be nice... but a (heck of a nice) workaround for now might be to: Create a Receipts Stack with a notebook for each month and tag yours and your wife's receipts accordingly. You can easily filter by tag. OR... create a Receipts Stack with a notebook for both you and your wife... and then tag receipts according to month OR... create one notebook called "Receipts" and tag yours and you wife's receipts according to "his" and "hers"... as well as a month and a year tag (I recommend this third option). You can filter for more than 2 tags at a time. The advantage of using tags is that you can: Save yourself notebooks (you have a limit of 250)10 "year" tags, 12 "month" tags and a "his" and "hers" tag (24 tags) will replace 120 months' worth of notebooks over a 10-year period (240 notebooks between you and your wife in total), since you're recycling tags (combinations)Shorter list of tags than notebooks (in this use case)Filter for all receipts for December across multiple yearsIt is the only scenario under which you can achieve your requirements in Evernote currently

Nope... It actually takes less than 30 seconds to set up (it took me 19 seconds at a leisurely pace ). I kid you not. You could try it for yourself. That explanation was for beginners. The instructions could also be put thusly: Create a TOC note for the set of notes you would like to learn by Spaced Repetition Paste a checkbox list of your time intervals into the TOC note Set a Reminder for the TOC note according to the next interval on your list That's basically the gist of it. The rest walks one through how to do the above and the reasoning behind it, which is nothing involved... not by a stretch. *Tagging is totally optional. Not necessary, but a powerful option for the reasons given in the above post... ** It's actually idiot-proof and as simple a solution as one is possibly going to get for Spaced Repetition learning via Evernote. *** The second time you finish studying a set of notes... all you do is check off the current interval in your list and reset the reminder - which took all of 9 seconds for me (I'm a slow coach)

How about just sticking to the TOC notes? Create a TOC note for a group of notes you're going to study on the same day. Step 1 Select a set of notes (Optional) Tag that set of notes with SR1 (Spaced Repetition 1) Create your TOC note Step 2 Tag the TOC note with "SR1"... and also append "SR1" to the title - just to distinguish that TOC note from all the others you'll create (and which corresponds to the individual notes it links to which are also tagged with the same tag name). Give all of your note links in the TOC a checkbox to keep track of your progress in each revision session Instead of tagging your notes with a particular Spaced Repetition time interval, paste a generic list of SR intervals, each with their own checkbox. Whenever you finish revising the set of notes in your TOC, check off your progress here and... Change the Reminder date and time to the next due date - in this case 5 days from now. Optional: Creating the tags in the first place are optional... if you do, you might want to organize them within their own hierarchy in the Left Panel The reason I recommend tags is not to indicate where you are with each set of notes in the SR process (because your checkboxes within your TOC note will tell you that)... The idea behind the SR1, SR2, SR3, SR4... tags is that you can filter all the notes linked to in any particular TOC note in the Note list. You may or may not want to do this. All you would do is look at the TOC note's tag and filter for that. Basically, you would never use a particular "SR" tag again once you've finished with your Spaced Repetition intervals for any given set of notes. If of any interest to you, the latest SR tag might indicate how many instances you've initiated a new SR process. Also, it would be connected to the original TOC note, which would in turn give you the date created. All kinds of info you can glean from keeping those tags around. It stands to reason that you do not need to re-tag your notes, no matter where you are in the process: you would simply use your checkboxes and change the reminder date accordingly. Another thing you might want to do is either pop all of your TOC notes into a TOC-SR notebook... or tag Them with "TOC". You can then filter all of your TOC notes related to your SR learning... which also means that you will be able to visualize them together in the Reminder list. In the Reminder list, you can sort your TOC notes by reminder date (mentioned in my previous post), which will allow you to get a handle on when you should block out some time in your calendar for your studies in the upcoming days.

The following workflow I came up with just might do the trick... or else stimulate something along similar lines: Set up a system of time interval tags in Evernote that reflect the intervals you want to adhere toFor example, the "Pimsleur's graduated-interval recall" advocates learning intervals of 5 seconds, 25 seconds, 2 minutes, 10 minutes, 1 hour, 5 hours, 1 day, 5 days, 25 days, 4 months, and 2 years - specifically for language learning.Set up a tag for whatever intervals seem practical to you​a.1hb.5hc.1dd.5de.25detc.Once you've tagged a set of notes with, say, a.1h, create a TOC (Table of Contents) note which gives you a list of links to those notes... and set a reminder specifically for that TOC note reflecting the next due revision date. When you get your Reminder notification, revise the notes linked to in the TOC note and then re-tag that set of notes with the next tag in line - b.5hReset the Reminder time for the TOC note. Presumably you'll always revise the same set of notes at the same time and/ or date. The idea behind the tagging system is that a Reminder does not keep track of how long ago you set it. The current tag tells you where you are in the learning process with any note. Also, by looking at your list of tags, you can see how many notes you have at each interval. EDIT: Another possibility could be to also include a checkbox list of your Spaced Repetition intervals in the TOC note (which is a master note) to mark the progress for that particular set of notes. Another thing you might want to do is add a checkbox to each item in the TOC note and check them off as you go through each note Depending, you might want to tag just the TOC note... but I would prefer to filter for the actual notes themselves so that the TOC can be altered/ recreated if necessary Keep your time interval tags in a nested hierarchy that you can expand/ collapse In the Reminders list you can filter your reminders by date to better schedule blocks of time for your up-and-coming spaced repetition revisions. I can see it in my mind's eye. Hope it makes sense! EDIT: I'm still wracking my brains on this one challenge: You might have, say, 10 notes tagged with d.5d... and maybe only half of those relate to a TOC note with a specific reminder date. The other half could be linked to in a separate TOC note with a different reminder date. There could be multiple TOC notes, each with their own reminder dates, linking to notes with the same time interval tag. Not sure how to get around that one just yet... Maybe filter by 2 tags: start date + current time interval?

Haha! Do you see a trend in my posts? Empty my brain... too difficult to learn.

I came across that... but I figured it was for a far superior species. Do I have to learn a whole new skill set to master AHK?

The SuperMemo link I gave comes from the post SvenSND referenced above It's new to me too... I've heard some of the buzz about it. This is my reasoning: although tempting to pursue, I don't currently have a use case for any such learning technique... simply because there's nothing I need to memorize and reproduce. I find that WorkFlowy and Evernote kind of do the trick for me. The ironic thing is that I'm trying to do the opposite: empty my brain.

Did some digging earlier... and it seems those keyboard shortcut options are only for Excel, Word, PowerPoint... basically the Office suite. But no direct Windows keyboard shortcut. Seems like http://convertcase.net/ mentioned above is the most practical and flexible workaround for now.

Wow! I don't see Evernote being as effective as the software specially developed for Spaced Repetition, SuperMemo. FWIW, the "Best-in-class" study app, StudyBlue, links to Evernote: "Notes that you take and store in Evernote are automatically imported into StudyBlue and easily made into flashcards. It's the fastest way to go from taking notes in class to studying flashcards in bed." Sorry, I haven't done any digging there, so I'm not sure if StudyBlue can help with Spaced Repetition. It may be worth a peek. Excuse the obsolete pun.

Even though the below post (link) is from about 4 years back, I think it gives an excellent summary of both Evernote and OneNOte's offerings. Interesting that for this reformed OneNote user, a system of nested folders lent itself to clutter and became unwieldy. I know it's not primarily nested folders that some are after... that's just a side comment. http://www.livefreeorscream.com/2011/why-i-switched-from-onenote-to-evernote

If it helps, in the meantime, you could copy paste highlight "swatches" from software like MS Word and paste them into a master note in Evernote that you can reference easily. I know, right? Probably not worth it. It depends how much you want it.

Sorry to gloat, but my fun hasn't ended quite yet. I've learned to diversify. Hence I can make my first love (Evernote) one of my concubines. I hope my wife doesn't show up on this thread.EDIT: To my defense, I was thinking of a certain Star Trek episode when I wrote the above.

I think the "official folks" you're referring to are folk just like you and I who have cared to stick around just a tad longer and kick the ball around a bit. For long-lived dynamic lists (and just plain long lists... and mega lists), you might want to try WorkFlowy. It's second to none. Once you give it a try, you'll wonder why you ever tried to wangle outlining and the sorts out of Evernote. Let the specialist apps do what they do best.

Well, you can, sort of... if you use the arrow keys on your keyboard once you've selected a note in the Note List, you can "flip" from one note to the other by hitting the up or down arrows. If you have your notes in order and they are in bite-size portions, depending, it might be very similar to scrolling... So try that in tandem with @Gazumped's suggestion. You can do a similar thing on tablets... except that you have to tap the next note in sequence. You can have the note list and note panel open simultaneously on tablet. To expand your note panel a tad more, you can hide the Left Panel on desktop (F10 on Windows). That may help to see more content in a note on one screen without needing to scroll while flipping through notes using the Note List, depending on the structure (line breaks) within your note. Edit: Almost forgot... If you access presentation mode you can scroll from one note to another when you reach the foot of one note. Depending on your platform, there are various ways to do this (right arrow on Windows).